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I don't follow the standards of Christianity, nor do I speak about it. I've never spoke with you along the lines of "Christianity". right...you just have it on your profile page.....don't worry...I won't tell anyone Yes because in secular terms my having a belief in Jesus Christ constitutes as "Christianity"... I've said that already. Do you not listen? Again, what is your point with all this, cause again this has absolutely nothing to do with this topic thread. Cowboy....jeez...didn't I say that I won't tell anyone that you are not a Cvhristian but have Christianity on your profile ...let's keep it our secret Because again after again, in secular terms my beliefs would be of the Christian faith. But I myself am not a "Christian" in all reality. I am a child of God and again after again after again that in this world is seen as being a "Christian". |
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Edited by
chocolina
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Chocolina said : Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God is not true and all your Jesus-Word claims ... simply logic ... 
CowboyGH Lie : Wow!!! Just noticed what it says I said in this quote eg., Cowboy Said.... I did not say that. God has always been, there is no before God, therefore there would be no knowledge before God. Don't know who originally posted that quote, but I would really appreciate people not lying about what other's have said while discussing. because in the end of page 25 CoybowGH said: That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. What in the world are you talking about? Where is the lie? lol. Not one of those quotes you have quoted say differently then one another. They all say the same thing, there is no before God. Please explain your logic here using these exact same three quotes. CowboyGH , 1st - Is there something before God ? 2nd - Where in the bible Jesus confirmed in front of John that he /Jesus/ is the Word ? 1st - No, there is no before God. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. 2nd - John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Notice whom is in reference here "the only begotten of the father". Then later on we'll find this - Matthew 3:17 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. So obviously, the "Word" when it was made flesh was Jesus. For the "Word" when it was made flesh was of the only begotten of the father. And then later on the Father states Jesus being his beloved son. CowboyGH ,
soon you gonna be a super star ....in your own show and woooow in the day of Orthodox Easter you reject Christianity and Jesus ... Finally horns-walking person with you get you ..  
and woooow in the day of Orthodox Easter you reject Christianity and Jesus ??? I don't reject Jesus, never said I did. He is the one whom created me, he is my lord and savior. What are you talk'n bout? You said it alone and now I gonna confirm it : CowboyGH , Are you a Christian ? yes or not ? I am a child of God. CowboyGH , Satan is also the child of God ... so once again : CoybowGH , are you a Christian ? Satan is not a child of God. Where do you get such information? Scriptures? If so please enlighten us with the verse that states Satan being a child of God. And I already answered your question, I am a child of God. ********** Satan is a member of the divine council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God.
So CowboyGH, Are you a Christian ? or a child of God only ? Satan is a member of the divine council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God Is he now? Please show something that supports your claim here. And to answer your question, I am a child of God. CowboyGH , Satan is a child of God. God created Satan ... Many times ‘Satan’ translated as "the prosecutor", and is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God. God therefore grants Satan the chance to test Satan is under God's control and cannot act without God's permission. ***************************** CowboyGH .... ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ? - YES or NOT ? ****************************** [b/] Satan is a child of God. God created Satan ... Many times ‘Satan’ translated as "the prosecutor", and is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God. God therefore grants Satan the chance to test Satan is under God's control and cannot act without God's permission. This is absolutely incorrect. Yes God did create Satan. Satan was once God's greatest angel. ***************************** CowboyGH .... ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ? - YES or NOT ? Is Satan a child of God ? -- YES or NO ? ****************************** [b/] |
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Because again after again, in secular terms my beliefs would be of the Christian faith. But I myself am not a "Christian" in all reality. I am a child of God and again after again after again that in this world is seen as being a "Christian". Cowboy...if you insist that you are not Christian nor follow Christianity...then so be it...you have that choice but your views pertaining to Christianity no longer hold any weight and can now only be viewed as being "an opinion" just like the rest of us that are not Christian I remember those Christians that use to pop into the forum and praise you for your Christian Faith...way to throw mud in their eye |
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Because again after again, in secular terms my beliefs would be of the Christian faith. But I myself am not a "Christian" in all reality. I am a child of God and again after again after again that in this world is seen as being a "Christian". Cowboy...if you insist that you are not Christian nor follow Christianity...then so be it...you have that choice but your views pertaining to Christianity no longer hold any weight and can now only be viewed as being "an opinion" just like the rest of us that are not Christian I remember those Christians that use to pop into the forum and praise you for your Christian Faith...way to throw mud in their eye I have NEVER expressed a belief or ANYTHING to do with "Christianity". I have ever ONLY expressed my own personal faith about Jesus Christ my lord and savior. What are you talking about Funches? |
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Chocolina said : Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God is not true and all your Jesus-Word claims ... simply logic ...
CowboyGH Lie : Wow!!! Just noticed what it says I said in this quote eg., Cowboy Said.... I did not say that. God has always been, there is no before God, therefore there would be no knowledge before God. Don't know who originally posted that quote, but I would really appreciate people not lying about what other's have said while discussing. because in the end of page 25 CoybowGH said: That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. What in the world are you talking about? Where is the lie? lol. Not one of those quotes you have quoted say differently then one another. They all say the same thing, there is no before God. Please explain your logic here using these exact same three quotes. CowboyGH , 1st - Is there something before God ? 2nd - Where in the bible Jesus confirmed in front of John that he /Jesus/ is the Word ? 1st - No, there is no before God. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. 2nd - John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Notice whom is in reference here "the only begotten of the father". Then later on we'll find this - Matthew 3:17 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. So obviously, the "Word" when it was made flesh was Jesus. For the "Word" when it was made flesh was of the only begotten of the father. And then later on the Father states Jesus being his beloved son. CowboyGH ,
soon you gonna be a super star ....in your own show and woooow in the day of Orthodox Easter you reject Christianity and Jesus ... Finally horns-walking person with you get you ..
and woooow in the day of Orthodox Easter you reject Christianity and Jesus ??? I don't reject Jesus, never said I did. He is the one whom created me, he is my lord and savior. What are you talk'n bout? You said it alone and now I gonna confirm it : CowboyGH , Are you a Christian ? yes or not ? I am a child of God. CowboyGH , Satan is also the child of God ... so once again : CoybowGH , are you a Christian ? Satan is not a child of God. Where do you get such information? Scriptures? If so please enlighten us with the verse that states Satan being a child of God. And I already answered your question, I am a child of God. ********** Satan is a member of the divine council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God.
So CowboyGH, Are you a Christian ? or a child of God only ? Satan is a member of the divine council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God Is he now? Please show something that supports your claim here. And to answer your question, I am a child of God. CowboyGH , Satan is a child of God. God created Satan ... Many times ‘Satan’ translated as "the prosecutor", and is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God. God therefore grants Satan the chance to test Satan is under God's control and cannot act without God's permission. ***************************** CowboyGH .... ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ? - YES or NOT ? ****************************** [b/] Satan is a child of God. God created Satan ... Many times ‘Satan’ translated as "the prosecutor", and is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God. God therefore grants Satan the chance to test Satan is under God's control and cannot act without God's permission. This is absolutely incorrect. Yes God did create Satan. Satan was once God's greatest angel. ***************************** CowboyGH .... ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ? - YES or NOT ? Is Satan a child of God ? -- YES or NO ? ****************************** [b/] CowboyGH .... ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ? - YES or NOT ? No, I am a child of God. I obey Jesus Christ, not "Christianity". Is Satan a child of God ? -- YES or NO ? No, not that I specifically know of. Satan "created" by God. He was an Angel. And as far as I know, "Angels" were not made in the image of God and I do believe that is why it specifically points out the comment of "let us make man after our image in our likeness" Genesis 1:26 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. This was not said about any other creation, only mankind. |
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Edited by
funches
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Thu 04/12/12 07:03 PM
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I have NEVER expressed a belief or ANYTHING to do with "Christianity". ok Cowboy...let's just say that you "accidently" tripped over an ant in your house which caused your hand to hit your computer keyboard in which you "unintentionally clicked on the Mingle2 "Christianity" option as your religious belief on your profile page and you have Alzheimer's which explain why you haven't removed it in over three years sometimes sh_t like that just happens |
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I have NEVER expressed a belief or ANYTHING to do with "Christianity". ok Cowboy...let's just say that you "accidently" tripped over an ant in your house which caused your hand to hit your computer keyboard in which you "unintentionally clicked on the Mingle2 "Christianity" option as your religious belief on your profile page and you have Alzheimer's which explain why you haven't removed it in over three years sometimes sh_t like that just happens Because my religious belief is in lines with Christianity eg., Jesus Christ is my lord and savior. But "Christianity" itself is just a belief. Anyone and everyone can click "Christianity". What I discuss in here are things I have personally experienced, I personally know, my personal relationship with God. Not just because of some belief out of some scriptures. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Because my religious belief is in lines with Christianity eg., Jesus Christ is my lord and savior. But "Christianity" itself is just a belief. Anyone and everyone can click "Christianity". What I discuss in here are things I have personally experienced, I personally know, my personal relation
Just a belief? What do you think you have? Its your belief!! No matter where it comes from. Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian!  
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We can all agree i'm a sinner
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We can all agree i'm a sinner Speaking for yourself of course. I'm not a sinner. |
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We can all agree i'm a sinner Speaking for yourself of course. I'm not a sinner. we are all sinners.....we are born sinners |
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Because my religious belief is in lines with Christianity eg., Jesus Christ is my lord and savior. But "Christianity" itself is just a belief. Anyone and everyone can click "Christianity". What I discuss in here are things I have personally experienced, I personally know, my personal relation
Just a belief? What do you think you have? Its your belief!! No matter where it comes from. Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian! Cowboy is a Christian!
I am a person that has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savoir, call that what you wish. |
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We can all agree i'm a sinner Speaking for yourself of course. I'm not a sinner. we are all sinners.....we are born sinners Yep, we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. Only through his love and compassion are we permitted to have a relationship with God. |
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What are you talking about? I had no connniption fit, it is none of your business what works I have done or haven't done. These works done is for God, not for you. So again, what are you talking about? Cowboy...since you admitted that you are not a Christian and admitted that you don't follow Christianity...then it no longer matter whether you do "Works" or not...since that only applies to Christians but anyway the debate was about Christianity ...not your made up nonsense Who follows Christianity? I I would like for just one person to say that Christianity is the way to eternal life. Jesus is the path to eternal life, not specifically Christianity. That is where one would make the mistake of following Christianity before they followed Jesus. Cowboy Satan's 'minions' can indeed speak the name Jesus Christ... the mind of such are confused so they believe a lie. But no matter... You state over and again that Jesus is the path to eternal life... I submit to you that Christ is that path... Jesus is but the Lamb of God. It was Christ that has risen. The Blood of the Lamb is not within the Chalice of Supper for it has been consumed that Christ rise as was the Word (in the flesh). Leave be the path of Jesus lest you also become the Lamb... Follow instead that Path which is unsealed by the Advent of Christ. Rise to God. That Adam might find Glory and Eve join him in heaven. |
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What are you talking about? I had no connniption fit, it is none of your business what works I have done or haven't done. These works done is for God, not for you. So again, what are you talking about? Cowboy...since you admitted that you are not a Christian and admitted that you don't follow Christianity...then it no longer matter whether you do "Works" or not...since that only applies to Christians but anyway the debate was about Christianity ...not your made up nonsense Who follows Christianity? I I would like for just one person to say that Christianity is the way to eternal life. Jesus is the path to eternal life, not specifically Christianity. That is where one would make the mistake of following Christianity before they followed Jesus. Cowboy Satan's 'minions' can indeed speak the name Jesus Christ... the mind of such are confused so they believe a lie. But no matter... You state over and again that Jesus is the path to eternal life... I submit to you that Christ is that path... Jesus is but the Lamb of God. It was Christ that has risen. The Blood of the Lamb is not within the Chalice of Supper for it has been consumed that Christ rise as was the Word (in the flesh). Leave be the path of Jesus lest you also become the Lamb... Follow instead that Path which is unsealed by the Advent of Christ. Rise to God. That Adam might find Glory and Eve join him in heaven. Jesus is Christ. |
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Chocolina said : Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God is not true and all your Jesus-Word claims ... simply logic ...
CowboyGH Lie : Wow!!! Just noticed what it says I said in this quote eg., Cowboy Said.... I did not say that. God has always been, there is no before God, therefore there would be no knowledge before God. Don't know who originally posted that quote, but I would really appreciate people not lying about what other's have said while discussing. because in the end of page 25 CoybowGH said: That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. What in the world are you talking about? Where is the lie? lol. Not one of those quotes you have quoted say differently then one another. They all say the same thing, there is no before God. Please explain your logic here using these exact same three quotes. CowboyGH , 1st - Is there something before God ? 2nd - Where in the bible Jesus confirmed in front of John that he /Jesus/ is the Word ? 1st - No, there is no before God. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. 2nd - John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Notice whom is in reference here "the only begotten of the father". Then later on we'll find this - Matthew 3:17 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. So obviously, the "Word" when it was made flesh was Jesus. For the "Word" when it was made flesh was of the only begotten of the father. And then later on the Father states Jesus being his beloved son. Such a Beauty Filled Gem of Brillance. Yet do you chip away at its facets so as to make a flaw upon it. The word was made flesh to the Diciples by Jesus so they might understand that it dwelt among them, (and we beheld his glory, the glory AS OF the only begotten of the Father,) indeed they saw Christ full of grace and truth. Yet you do not see as of and so think it IS Jesus. Instead you have followed the footsteps of Jesus and arrived at you... But take not the step that places you with Christ becuse you can not take your eyes off Jesus and look at the Glory that is upon him. The Christ that dwelt among them was the Word made Flesh... Each of them ascended with Christ... Christ is in you. You are the Word made flesh. Why then do you still chase Jesus? |
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We can all agree i'm a sinner Speaking for yourself of course. I'm not a sinner. we are all sinners.....we are born sinners Wrong JJ. The term "sin" is basically owned and defined by religions. I am not religious hence I am not a sinner. Only people to subscribe to those religions that recognize that term can own the idea that they are sinners. The term "sin" is meaningless to me. It is simply a label used by certain people. |
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Chocolina said : Then if there is nothing before God : John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God is not true and all your Jesus-Word claims ... simply logic ...
CowboyGH Lie : Wow!!! Just noticed what it says I said in this quote eg., Cowboy Said.... I did not say that. God has always been, there is no before God, therefore there would be no knowledge before God. Don't know who originally posted that quote, but I would really appreciate people not lying about what other's have said while discussing. because in the end of page 25 CoybowGH said: That would work, if there was a "before God". lol. There is no before God, God has always been and will always be.... simply logic. What in the world are you talking about? Where is the lie? lol. Not one of those quotes you have quoted say differently then one another. They all say the same thing, there is no before God. Please explain your logic here using these exact same three quotes. CowboyGH , 1st - Is there something before God ? 2nd - Where in the bible Jesus confirmed in front of John that he /Jesus/ is the Word ? 1st - No, there is no before God. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God, nor will there be an after God. 2nd - John 1 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Notice whom is in reference here "the only begotten of the father". Then later on we'll find this - Matthew 3:17 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. So obviously, the "Word" when it was made flesh was Jesus. For the "Word" when it was made flesh was of the only begotten of the father. And then later on the Father states Jesus being his beloved son. Such a Beauty Filled Gem of Brillance. Yet do you chip away at its facets so as to make a flaw upon it. The word was made flesh to the Diciples by Jesus so they might understand that it dwelt among them, (and we beheld his glory, the glory AS OF the only begotten of the Father,) indeed they saw Christ full of grace and truth. Yet you do not see as of and so think it IS Jesus. Instead you have followed the footsteps of Jesus and arrived at you... But take not the step that places you with Christ becuse you can not take your eyes off Jesus and look at the Glory that is upon him. The Christ that dwelt among them was the Word made Flesh... Each of them ascended with Christ... Christ is in you. You are the Word made flesh. Why then do you still chase Jesus? Jesus is Christ. "Christ" is not a name. The word christ means the same thing as savior. Jesus is our savior, through him we attain eternal life and are relinquished from spiritual death. Through his sacrifice which fulfilled the first covenant between man and God and through the knowledge he has bestowed upon us in order to achieve such a gift. |
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We can all agree i'm a sinner Speaking for yourself of course. I'm not a sinner. we are all sinners.....we are born sinners Wrong JJ. The term "sin" is basically owned and defined by religions. I am not religious hence I am not a sinner. Only people to subscribe to those religions that recognize that term can own the idea that they are sinners. The term "sin" is meaningless to me. It is simply a label used by certain people. Just because you don't believe in that word and or it's root meaning, doesn't mean it doesn't apply. That's like saying you don't believe in "law", so therefore "law" does not apply to you. |
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Edited by
AdventureBegins
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Thu 04/12/12 09:21 PM
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What are you talking about? I had no connniption fit, it is none of your business what works I have done or haven't done. These works done is for God, not for you. So again, what are you talking about? Cowboy...since you admitted that you are not a Christian and admitted that you don't follow Christianity...then it no longer matter whether you do "Works" or not...since that only applies to Christians but anyway the debate was about Christianity ...not your made up nonsense Who follows Christianity? I I would like for just one person to say that Christianity is the way to eternal life. Jesus is the path to eternal life, not specifically Christianity. That is where one would make the mistake of following Christianity before they followed Jesus. Cowboy Satan's 'minions' can indeed speak the name Jesus Christ... the mind of such are confused so they believe a lie. But no matter... You state over and again that Jesus is the path to eternal life... I submit to you that Christ is that path... Jesus is but the Lamb of God. It was Christ that has risen. The Blood of the Lamb is not within the Chalice of Supper for it has been consumed that Christ rise as was the Word (in the flesh). Leave be the path of Jesus lest you also become the Lamb... Follow instead that Path which is unsealed by the Advent of Christ. Rise to God. That Adam might find Glory and Eve join him in heaven. Jesus is Christ. Jesus went to the Father. But you see (or perhaps not) that at this point you have returned to the Stone of Adam... You follow the sun and not the Gory. In the Morning the Sun Rises in the East so you walk to the East (it is like unto a guiding star for you). At noon you can not walk East or West for your guiding light has ceased to move. In due time the Sun you follow sets to the West and so you walk again to the point you started from. Oh wandering seeker... Take thine eyes from the Light of the Son and look into the Glory that shines upon him... There is a Guiding Star. |
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