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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
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Tue 04/03/12 10:58 AM










When a person dies/pases away on Earth. They do not leave their bodies until Jesus returns, thus the dead in Christ shall rise first. If they were already with God, why would they then rise?


so you believe that there are spirits still trapped in dead bodies that will one day rise out of the grave? ....sure appears to be Zombieism


Yes the bodies are dead now, and will be revived one day. "The dead in Christ shall rise first"


and oh so hungry for flesh ...some haven't eaten in over two thousand years


I highly doubt the dead are hungry... they're dead lol.


are the spirits in them also dead and not hungry?


A spirit does not need food... what are you talking about?


Jesus rose from the grave and ate


What you speak of here has absolutely nothing to do with what we were just talking about.

Jesus rose again, yes. He rose again in the flesh. He didn't rise up as a ghost or a spirit. He rose just as they placed him in the grave.

And besides that, where does it say he ate after he had risen?


Cowboy the facts are that Jesus rose from The Grave....also didn't he have the power to change bread and wine into his flesh and blood which he proably ate when he arose from the grave and what he taught his folowers to eat


He has the ability to, but he never did nor never will. What you are speaking of is a parable Jesus was speaking. The bread being his flesh, and the wine being his blood that would be spilt for us all.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:00 AM











When a person dies/pases away on Earth. They do not leave their bodies until Jesus returns, thus the dead in Christ shall rise first. If they were already with God, why would they then rise?


so you believe that there are spirits still trapped in dead bodies that will one day rise out of the grave? ....sure appears to be Zombieism


Yes the bodies are dead now, and will be revived one day. "The dead in Christ shall rise first"


and oh so hungry for flesh ...some haven't eaten in over two thousand years


I highly doubt the dead are hungry... they're dead lol.


are the spirits in them also dead and not hungry?


A spirit does not need food... what are you talking about?


Jesus rose from the grave and ate


What you speak of here has absolutely nothing to do with what we were just talking about.

Jesus rose again, yes. He rose again in the flesh. He didn't rise up as a ghost or a spirit. He rose just as they placed him in the grave.

And besides that, where does it say he ate after he had risen?


Cowboy the facts are that Jesus rose from The Grave....also didn't he have the power to change bread and wine into his flesh and blood which he proably ate when he arose from the grave and what he taught his folowers to eat


He has the ability to, but he never did nor never will. What you are speaking of is a parable Jesus was speaking. The bread being his flesh, and the wine being his blood that would be spilt for us all.


And besides that, this incident you're speaking of when he spokse this parable was before his crucifixtion or resurrection.

The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:02 AM

The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?

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Tue 04/03/12 11:04 AM


The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?

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Tue 04/03/12 11:08 AM



The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it

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Tue 04/03/12 11:09 AM




The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it


He didn't teach turning bread into flesh.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/03/12 11:10 AM





The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it


He didn't teach turning bread into flesh.


And to prove my point, I wish for you to find me one verse where it says Jesus turned the bread into flesh. Or where they physically ate of the flesh.

Not something that refers to it in parable form, but where it says they litereally did as such.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:11 AM






The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it


He didn't teach turning bread into flesh.


And to prove my point, I wish for you to find me one verse where it says Jesus turned the bread into flesh. Or where they physically ate of the flesh.

Not something that refers to it in parable form, but where it says they litereally did as such.


all that need to be proved is that he taught it

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Tue 04/03/12 11:13 AM







The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it


He didn't teach turning bread into flesh.


And to prove my point, I wish for you to find me one verse where it says Jesus turned the bread into flesh. Or where they physically ate of the flesh.

Not something that refers to it in parable form, but where it says they litereally did as such.


all that need to be proved is that he taught it


But he didn't teach it.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/03/12 11:13 AM








The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it


He didn't teach turning bread into flesh.


And to prove my point, I wish for you to find me one verse where it says Jesus turned the bread into flesh. Or where they physically ate of the flesh.

Not something that refers to it in parable form, but where it says they litereally did as such.


all that need to be proved is that he taught it


But he didn't teach it.


If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:16 AM









The wine was the blood was going to be spilt for us, eg., at the crucifixtion that had not happened prior to his speach of this. And the bread was his body that was given to us for eternal life, again, his body was given to us at the crucifixtion.


Cowboy...is Jesus incapable of turning bread and wine into his flesh and blood?


He is fully capable.. but what are you talking about? Why would he do as such?


the very same reason why he taught it


He didn't teach turning bread into flesh.


And to prove my point, I wish for you to find me one verse where it says Jesus turned the bread into flesh. Or where they physically ate of the flesh.

Not something that refers to it in parable form, but where it says they litereally did as such.


all that need to be proved is that he taught it


But he didn't teach it.


If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Parable Funches, parable.


Matthew 26

27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;

28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:22 AM

If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Cowboy..if you agree that Jesus taught eating his flesh and drinking his blood...then you also know that there are verses that proves this ....

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Tue 04/03/12 11:24 AM

Parable Funches, parable.


perhaps being the "Begotton" son of God was a parable ....

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/03/12 11:40 AM


If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Cowboy..if you agree that Jesus taught eating his flesh and drinking his blood...then you also know that there are verses that proves this ....


No I don't agree with it lol, cause he didn't say that. It was a PARABLE Funches lol. He wasn't teaching to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood literally.

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Tue 04/03/12 11:41 AM


Parable Funches, parable.


perhaps being the "Begotton" son of God was a parable ....


How would that be a parable? Explain the logic behind that please. You do realize what a parable is right?

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Tue 04/03/12 11:45 AM



If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Cowboy..if you agree that Jesus taught eating his flesh and drinking his blood...then you also know that there are verses that proves this ....


No I don't agree with it lol, cause he didn't say that. It was a PARABLE Funches lol. He wasn't teaching to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood literally.


I can even prove it's a parable and wasn't ment in a literal sense. Read further on.

29But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom

I will not drink henceforth of this FRUIT OF THE VINE. This verse right there shows specifically what they were drinking when Jesus used the PARABLE.

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Tue 04/03/12 12:08 PM



If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Cowboy..if you agree that Jesus taught eating his flesh and drinking his blood...then you also know that there are verses that proves this ....


No I don't agree with it lol, cause he didn't say that. It was a PARABLE Funches lol. He wasn't teaching to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood literally.


remember...Jesus talked in parables to the Masses..not his disciples

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Tue 04/03/12 12:09 PM




If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Cowboy..if you agree that Jesus taught eating his flesh and drinking his blood...then you also know that there are verses that proves this ....


No I don't agree with it lol, cause he didn't say that. It was a PARABLE Funches lol. He wasn't teaching to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood literally.


remember...Jesus talked in parables to the Masses..not his disciples


Jesus spoke in parables to anyone and everyone. All the way back to genesis.

CowboyGH's photo
Tue 04/03/12 12:10 PM





If he taught, again show me a verse where they do eat of the flesh literally and do drink of his blood literally.


Cowboy..if you agree that Jesus taught eating his flesh and drinking his blood...then you also know that there are verses that proves this ....


No I don't agree with it lol, cause he didn't say that. It was a PARABLE Funches lol. He wasn't teaching to eat of his flesh and drink of his blood literally.


remember...Jesus talked in parables to the Masses..not his disciples


Jesus spoke in parables to anyone and everyone. All the way back to genesis.


Not everything Jesus said was a parable, but the way he explained what he was saying generally was said in parable form to give us a better understanding of exactly what he was saying.

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Tue 04/03/12 12:13 PM



Parable Funches, parable.


perhaps being the "Begotton" son of God was a parable ....


How would that be a parable? Explain the logic behind that please. You do realize what a parable is right?


The Virgin Mary was impregnanted by the Holy Spirit and you haved claimed many times that the Holy Spirit is one of three seperate entities...therefore Jesus is the "Begotton Son" of The Holy Spirit not the Holy Father


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