the reports say the teen had just a cell phone, skittles and a pop, after returning from the store to try to finish watching the ball game

my guess is , it was the 'watchmans' gun

its not clear who cried help, but the watchman had 100 pounds on the teen and followed him,,,and (so far it seems) had a gun,,,,

my guess would be that poor kid was crying out after some grown man followed and assaulted or tried to restrain him,,,

http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-killing-friend-phone-teen-death-recounts-063243901--abc-news.html


video here also

"At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon," the letter said, "everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media."

Zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense. Police found blood on his face and the back of his head as well as grass on the back of his shirt.

That jibes with what Cheryl Brown's teenage son witnessed while walking his dog that night. Thirteen-year-old Austin stepped out his front door and heard people fighting, he told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday.

"I heard screaming and crying for help," he said. "I heard, 'Help me.' "

It was dark, and the boy did not see how the fight started, in fact, he only saw one person, a man in a red shirt — Zimmerman — who was on the ground.

The boy said he is not sure who called for help. After a moment, his dog escaped, and he turned to catch it and a few seconds later heard a gunshot, he said.

Sanford police on Thursday also challenged a WFTV-Channel 9 report, in which Mary Cutcher said police largely ignored her even though she told them, "I know this was not self-defense. There was no punching, no hitting going on at the time, no wrestling."

Police said they twice tried to interview her without success, and the third time, she wrote a very short sworn statement for her roommate that was consistent with Zimmerman's account.

Statement of Robert Zimmerman, father of Neighborhood Watch volunteer:

“The tragic events of February 26 are very sad for all concerned. The Martin family, our family, and the entire community have been forever changed.

The portrayal of George Zimmerman in the media, as well as the series of events that led to the tragic shooting are false and extremely misleading. Unfortunately, some individuals and organizations have used this tragedy to further their own causes and agendas.

George is a Spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. One black neighbor recently interviewed said she knew everything in the media was untrue and that she would trust George with her life. Another black neighbor said that George was the only one, black or white, who came and welcomed her to the community, offering any assistance he could provide. Recently, I met two black children George invited to a social event. I asked where they met George. They responded that he was their mentor. They said George visited them routinely, took them places, helped them, and taught them things and that they really loved George. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth.

The events of February 26 reported in the media are also totally inaccurate. Out of respect for the on-going investigation, I will not discuss specifics. However, the media reports of the events are imaginary at best. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event become public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media.

Our entire family is deeply sorry for the loss of Trayvon. We pray for the Martin family daily. We also pray that the community will grieve together and not be divided by more unwarranted hate.

The Zimmerman family will have no further contact with the media prior to the resolution of the investigation. It would be greatly appreciated if the media would respect our privacy.”

Zimmerman's father, 64-year-old Robert Zimmerman of Lake Mary, delivered a one-page letter to the Sentinel on Thursday, saying that the depiction of his son in the media has been cruel and misleading.

George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-trayvon-martin-shooting-zimmerman-letter-20120315,0,1716605.story/

I find it interesting that the lamestream media is portraying this guy as being white..

If this dude was the one that got shot he would certainly be called hispanic..

Pretty pathetic attempt at pushing the racist whitey to wind up the outrage mobs..

the police also said not to bother the kid too...that would be a matter for the police, not a "watchman"

here is the rub:

IN the us HISPANIC is an etnicity but not a race, so a person can be both White and Hispanic,,,,

Where is the outrage mob here?

2 Charged in 6-Year-Old's Murder
Rash of weekend shootings leave 39 others wounded


At least 10 people were killed and 39 others wounded during a bloody Saturday and Sunday throughout the city, police said.

Saturday’s fatal shootings started about 3:40 p.m., when a 6-year-old girl -- identified by the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office as Aliyah Shell -- was shot dead outside her house in the 3100 block of South Springfield Avenue, police said. A pickup truck approached and somebody inside began shooting, striking the girl in the abdomen, police said.

The little girl's sister was inside the house when she heard a popping sound outside.

"They started shooting but I thought it was fireworks. I heard like five or six gunshots. I thought they were fireworks," said Desiree Valzquez, Aliya's sister. "I ran outside, and my mom was holding my sister. My sister wasn't talking anymore. She wasn't breathing."

Sunday afternoon, police charged two teens with Aliyah's murder -- 18-year-old Juan Barraza, and a 16-year-old boy. Both teens are charged with murder and aggravated discharge of a firearm. Police said they recovered a gun at the scene.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Six-shot-dead-17-others-wounded-in-citywide-violence-6-year-old-killed-Aliyah-Shell-143095046.html#ixzz1pemCi1Xn/

The whole point of neighborhood watch is to watch people acting suspicious or people your not familiar with being in the neighborhood. What if this guy didn't follow him as instructed by the police and he broke into someones house and stole money, a gun to be used in a crime later or raped a woman who was home alone? Then everybody would be looking at this Zimmerman dude, its a lose lose situation for him at this point.

What is most sad (other than a person being killed) is the way people are fixated on details which are irreverent to the actual altercation.

The color of their skin is irrelevant.
The skittles are irrelevant.
That one of them had a gun is also irreverent.

All that matters is the details of the altercation from the time that the two men started talking, to the time they started wrestling, to the time the shot occurred.

That is all that matters to detail whether Zimmerman was justified, or not.

If Martin attacked Zimmerman, as Zimmerman claims, they began wrestling, his shirt came up exposing the weapon, and Martin reached for the gun. Then his actions to pull his weapon and fire where %100 justified.


No matter how much anyone wants to paint one or the other as a saint, or as a fiend matters not.

Did you listen to the 911 call? Zimmerman never said he was going to follow the guy.

Zimmerman's father released a statement saying his son in fact did not follow Martin.

This does not say what did happen, only what did not happen. If anything that begs answers to other questions.

I saw this case pretty much right after it happened, it was posted to one of my news feeds. I knew right from the get go that many details were missing.

The whole point of neighborhood watch is to watch people acting suspicious or people your not familiar with being in the neighborhood. What if this guy didn't follow him as instructed by the police and he broke into someones house and stole money, a gun to be used in a crime later or raped a woman who was home alone? Then everybody would be looking at this Zimmerman dude, its a lose lose situation for him at this point.

The whole point of neighborhood watch is to watch people acting suspicious or people your not familiar with being in the neighborhood. What if this guy didn't follow him as instructed by the police and he broke into someones house and stole money, a gun to be used in a crime later or raped a woman who was home alone? Then everybody would be looking at this Zimmerman dude, its a lose lose situation for him at this point.

the gun is not irrelevant if it is the cause of the death

the likeliness of this grown man, 100 pounds heavier than the teen and carrying a gun, telling a dispatcher that he is watching this boy, and following this boy, and then having this boy attack HIM , is low

and even then, it wouldnt justify a shooting, if you are the person pursuing someone when they decide to defend THEMSELF

thats why stand your ground is too vague,, which male had more of a right to do so in this case

the teen walking from the store and not bothering the man

or the man, departing from his car in the rain with a gun to follow the teen ?

why shouldnt the teen have been scared too, or felt threatened,, if he felt threatened why wouldnt he be justified in defending himself too (without a weapon, the old fashioned way)?

no,, the likelihood here is that an overvigilant man with a gun saw someone his mind said was 'suspicious' and wanted to make sure he didnt 'get away'