Topic: islam is not radical religion
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Fri 04/06/12 10:21 PM



Muhammad order it 1400 years ago, when education word are not present in europe and america.



haha rofl

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Mohammad / 570 - 632 AD/
he was illiterate

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yes muhammad was an illiterate, and the fact behind that, if he literate, so the people blame that.,The Quran is written by muhammd its not the book of god.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 04/08/12 12:28 AM
Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

khan327's photo
Sun 04/08/12 01:39 AM

Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.

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Sun 04/08/12 01:51 AM


Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

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Sun 04/08/12 03:16 AM
Edited by khan327 on Sun 04/08/12 03:25 AM

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!
its not my ability to memmorize the quran. Its the ability of quran that i can save quran in my memmory. But its abilty not presnt in ur religious book. This is the unique character of quran. I am a muslim it will be make me superior on day of judgment.

khan327's photo
Sun 04/08/12 03:21 AM



Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

islam is the youn religion in all, but the growing rate is high from all, take examlpe of USA how many christan. Jew, accept islam in a month. Have you seen any muslam in USA , that he accept christan, or jew etc...

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/08/12 04:45 AM




Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

islam is the youn religion in all, but the growing rate is high from all, take examlpe of USA how many christan. Jew, accept islam in a month. Have you seen any muslam in USA , that he accept christan, or jew etc...
does not change a thing about the nature of Islam!

Got any Facts to back up your assertions,BTW?

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 04/08/12 08:39 AM



Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

You are speeking from a point that is short of the goal.

Islam is not the youngest Religion.

There are two others that sprang up in the 1800's and have spread in the way which indicates the signature of God. (falseness fails as did Jim Jones).

Latter Day Saints and the Bahai Faith.

Both are yonger than Islam and yet have spread to the world.

Islam came into existance because Christianity took the Path of Crusade and therfore needed to be reined in.

Islam came into existance because God so willed it.

Think of this... For an illerate man to have spoken the words uttered by Mohammad which (by the scribe that accompanied him) we read in the Form of the Quran God must have been the Guidance...

Else the book would appear as the utterances of an illerate man...

and it does not.


AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 04/08/12 08:46 AM


Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.

Change in Quran... 300 years or so after the Advent of Mohammad a council of men decided upon the words to be printed (this is a Historical fact).

Just like Christianity (by Nicia) men choose by council in Persia what would be the Word of Mohammad for the future.. Indeed that book has been changed as Mohammad was not present to offer proper council.

What is acceptable by god is proper behavior... If a man come by it through Mohammad or Christ, God cares not... Only that the man come by proper behavior and so be acceptable to God.


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Sun 04/08/12 09:40 AM




Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

You are speeking from a point that is short of the goal.

Islam is not the youngest Religion.

There are two others that sprang up in the 1800's and have spread in the way which indicates the signature of God. (falseness fails as did Jim Jones).

Latter Day Saints and the Bahai Faith.

Both are yonger than Islam and yet have spread to the world.

Islam came into existance because Christianity took the Path of Crusade and therfore needed to be reined in.

Islam came into existance because God so willed it.

Think of this... For an illerate man to have spoken the words uttered by Mohammad which (by the scribe that accompanied him) we read in the Form of the Quran God must have been the Guidance...

Else the book would appear as the utterances of an illerate man...

and it does not.


I am speaking about the Abrahamic Religions!
Besides,Islam hasn't even started out in it's present form!

actually,the Scribes put it in that form about a Century after Mohamed!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/08/12 09:51 AM
a small Excerpt from "The Emergence of Islam"

Fred M. Donner
Harvard University Press 2010

We have seen how Muhammad preached certain religious
ideas that gave rise in western Arabia to an apocalyptically oriented
pietistic movement which, following the name the members of the
movement applied to themselves, we have termed the "Believers'
movement."
We also examined the basic concepts of this movement, particularly
its desire to establish a "community of the righteous" who could
attain salvation on the Last Day and to spread the hegemony of this
community as far as possible in order to realize a righteous political
order-that is, a polity that was guided by the observance of God's
revealed law-in preparation for the anticipated Last Day. We traced
the community's rapid spread through much of the Near East during
the seventh century c.E., led by a ruling elite of Arabian origin,
and considered the relationship between this new community and
the indigenous populations (mostly Christian, Jewish, or Zoroastrian)
that it encountered and came to rule during its expansion. We
also saw how disagreements over the question of leadership within
the ruling elite resulted in two extended periods of brutal civil strife,
with permanent repercussions.
In this chapter we shall see how, during the late first century AH/
seventh century C.E. and early second century AH/eighth century
The Emergence of Islam 195
c.E., the Believers' movement evolved into the religion we now know
as Islam, through a process of refinement and redefinition of its basic
concepts. Islam, as we understand it today, is thus the direct continuation
or outgrowth of the Believers' movement rooted in the preachings
of Muhammad and the actions of his early followers, even
though it would be historically inaccurate to call the early Believers'
movement "Islam."
The process by which Islam crystallized from the matrix of the
Believers' movement following the civil wars was partially the result
of intentional efforts made by the ruling Urnayyad dynasty and its
supporters and partially the result of a sea change in the perceptions
within the community generally on matters of identity. For this reason,
it seems to have been a transformation that took hold gradually
and lasted for a considerable time-several decades at least, perhaps
in some arenas as long as a century. While many aspects of this process
of transformation remain murky, several dimensions of it are
visible enough to be examined in more detail. These will form the
main rubrics of this chapter. In general, however, we can say that
the Believers, led by the Urnayyad dynasty, particularly the amir
al-mu'minin 'Abd al-Malik and his entourage, seem to have ernbarked
on a renewed search for legitimacy, seeking ways to establish
for themselves and for the world at large their right to claim political
supremacy and their right to direct a regime based on what they understood
to be God's word.

Try to get it!
It's quite interesting!

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 04/08/12 10:09 AM





Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

You are speeking from a point that is short of the goal.

Islam is not the youngest Religion.

There are two others that sprang up in the 1800's and have spread in the way which indicates the signature of God. (falseness fails as did Jim Jones).

Latter Day Saints and the Bahai Faith.

Both are yonger than Islam and yet have spread to the world.

Islam came into existance because Christianity took the Path of Crusade and therfore needed to be reined in.

Islam came into existance because God so willed it.

Think of this... For an illerate man to have spoken the words uttered by Mohammad which (by the scribe that accompanied him) we read in the Form of the Quran God must have been the Guidance...

Else the book would appear as the utterances of an illerate man...

and it does not.


I am speaking about the Abrahamic Religions!
Besides,Islam hasn't even started out in it's present form!

actually,the Scribes put it in that form about a Century after Mohamed!


Latter Day Saints and the Bahai Faith are both 'Abrahamic'... Foundation is God.

Line of ascension is from Adam to Mankind.

By way of Abraham (for both faiths).

One chose to ascend through Christ.

One chose acsension by God.


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Sun 04/08/12 11:50 AM


Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.


I will not respect ANY FALSE SHEPHERD! I will not respect ANY SHEPHERD! Take the Adult mind here? I knew the Bible backwards and learned that Christianity perverted it's own teachings. I have not insulted Mohammad. I stated facts. If I called him a camel (insert a derogatory word for sexual congress) that would have been an insult. I despise the pope. Several of them were indeed homosexuals and two of them on par with Caligula. Please do not try to compare education here. I read the Quaran and it is just as messed up as the Bible is. Have you read the Book of Mormon? I have. How many other philosophies have you studied besides Islam? I challenge you to read what the others say. I mean read on the Hindi religion. Likewise try understanding Buddhism. There is more out there than Christianity and Islam. And I would state facts about Mohammad in any Islamics face and be fully ready to make war upon that man or group. I am sick of having to be told to live in fear of anyone including God or Allah or whatever you choose to call him. Do you think I would face any Islamic without knowing that because of your own DAMN BIBLE we are at war with each other and I did not declare it? I will do whatever it takes to defend myself from Islam but I will not take the first shot nor will I turn the other cheek.

When Islam turns away from Mohammad and accepts a more tolerant teaching leaving the Holy War behind I will then be at peace with Islam. Until then I have the eyes of suspicion upon all Islamic no matter how friendly or peaceful they appear. So don't threaten me. I have faced down Islamics twice my size. Do not assume I am going to fear any man or God. I grew up in fear. I am not afraid any more.

What Islam will not teach you is that evil is part of man like good is. Even Christians get this so wrong. We are good and evil. We need to learn to live in balance and find the better way instead of trying to force each other to God's (Allah's) will. Islam is morally bankrupt like Christianity and Islam will be its own undoing. Real education did and is doing Christianity in. It can also be the undoing of Islam. That is why so many Islmaics fear Western education?

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 04/08/12 11:51 AM




Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

islam is the youn religion in all, but the growing rate is high from all, take examlpe of USA how many christan. Jew, accept islam in a month. Have you seen any muslam in USA , that he accept christan, or jew etc...


Wrong again, we are being overwhelmed by Immigrants and their children, not Christians converting.

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Sun 04/08/12 11:53 AM



Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!


Correction, Scientology is the youngest religion!!! And that is a recognized religion. Church of Satan is also pretty young and a touch older than Scientology!

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Sun 04/08/12 11:57 AM


Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.


BTW
And only islam is acceptable to god.


So now you speak for God??? Really? I can safely say that is not what I have been told!!!!

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Sun 04/08/12 12:21 PM






Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.
So your ability to memorize Quran makes it superior?
You seem to forget that Islam is the youngest Religion,and actually came into existence by pre-empting Judaism,Christianity,plus a few Pagan Religions in the Region!

You are speeking from a point that is short of the goal.

Islam is not the youngest Religion.

There are two others that sprang up in the 1800's and have spread in the way which indicates the signature of God. (falseness fails as did Jim Jones).

Latter Day Saints and the Bahai Faith.

Both are yonger than Islam and yet have spread to the world.

Islam came into existance because Christianity took the Path of Crusade and therfore needed to be reined in.

Islam came into existance because God so willed it.

Think of this... For an illerate man to have spoken the words uttered by Mohammad which (by the scribe that accompanied him) we read in the Form of the Quran God must have been the Guidance...

Else the book would appear as the utterances of an illerate man...

and it does not.


I am speaking about the Abrahamic Religions!
Besides,Islam hasn't even started out in it's present form!

actually,the Scribes put it in that form about a Century after Mohamed!


Latter Day Saints and the Bahai Faith are both 'Abrahamic'... Foundation is God.

Line of ascension is from Adam to Mankind.

By way of Abraham (for both faiths).

One chose to ascend through Christ.

One chose acsension by God.


you're splitting Hair that isn't even there!

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Sun 04/08/12 12:22 PM



Mohammad was more than illiterate. He was a Pedophile. At least Jews didn't marry until they were 12 classically. With that aside, he also HATED Jews from the beginning. He was a merchant who sold God especially. What if I told you I had Allah tell me the Quaran was Wrong! What if this really were true that God himself spoke to me one day and told me to guide Islam in the right direction? I know this is a huge assumption but let us say I DID SPEAK with God and he said everything all of us humans knew was wrong and I needed to set mankind straight?

I like to think a lot of Catholic Priests stand before god after death and feel a cold shiver go down their sines when they realize their acts are going to bit them in the *** later.

You seem to go on a lot about Adultery when Islam sees sexual congress differently from the west. To you and the Christians all sex outside of marriage is Adultery. If God gave that to us and it has been around since before we come from the Garden of Eden then why is it so bad since marriage is a human construct and has nothing to do with actual procreation or natural order?

first you need to show adult mind here. And take muhammd name with respect, and if you are so brave, insult muhammad in front of a muslim. I neva insult your religious leader or any book here. Adultery is forbedden in islam in any form. If a muslim doing it not mean islam allowed him for it. If quran is not the book of god. I will chalange all the world bring two page like quran. Bring any change in quran. I am not an arbic . I cant speak arbi. I challange you, lets show me and memmorize your religious book in 10 years. And i will memmorize quran in only ten months. This is the fact of quran. And only islam is acceptable to god.


I will not respect ANY FALSE SHEPHERD! I will not respect ANY SHEPHERD! Take the Adult mind here? I knew the Bible backwards and learned that Christianity perverted it's own teachings. I have not insulted Mohammad. I stated facts. If I called him a camel (insert a derogatory word for sexual congress) that would have been an insult. I despise the pope. Several of them were indeed homosexuals and two of them on par with Caligula. Please do not try to compare education here. I read the Quaran and it is just as messed up as the Bible is. Have you read the Book of Mormon? I have. How many other philosophies have you studied besides Islam? I challenge you to read what the others say. I mean read on the Hindi religion. Likewise try understanding Buddhism. There is more out there than Christianity and Islam. And I would state facts about Mohammad in any Islamics face and be fully ready to make war upon that man or group. I am sick of having to be told to live in fear of anyone including God or Allah or whatever you choose to call him. Do you think I would face any Islamic without knowing that because of your own DAMN BIBLE we are at war with each other and I did not declare it? I will do whatever it takes to defend myself from Islam but I will not take the first shot nor will I turn the other cheek.

When Islam turns away from Mohammad and accepts a more tolerant teaching leaving the Holy War behind I will then be at peace with Islam. Until then I have the eyes of suspicion upon all Islamic no matter how friendly or peaceful they appear. So don't threaten me. I have faced down Islamics twice my size. Do not assume I am going to fear any man or God. I grew up in fear. I am not afraid any more.

What Islam will not teach you is that evil is part of man like good is. Even Christians get this so wrong. We are good and evil. We need to learn to live in balance and find the better way instead of trying to force each other to God's (Allah's) will. Islam is morally bankrupt like Christianity and Islam will be its own undoing. Real education did and is doing Christianity in. It can also be the undoing of Islam. That is why so many Islmaics fear Western education?

whta bibile you gona teach me. This bibile who make by your owen. This bibile which differnt version presnt in every country. You not in front of me i will show how to respect of muhammad. How is possible to bring change in quran. Only in pakistan 25 lakh people who memmorize the quran.
Leave this all its all bull ****, i challange all the christan and jew of the world memmorise me bibile in ten years. And i will memmorize the quran in 5 month. Common christan . If quran is fals i will fail to memmorise it. If bibile was fals you will be fail to memmorse bibile. You show just fals and null hypothesis. Lets common to pritical life memmorize the bibile and show me. Common, common , common. All the christan please accept my challange

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Sun 04/08/12 01:06 PM
The bibile into two part, the old and the new. The old testment and the the new testment. The complate bibile the old and the new contain 37 book. Ther fore the old testament of the catholic contain 46 book. However the new testament of both these sects contain 27 book. The quran tell us that the tohra was the revelation given to prophet mosex (pbuh) jew which is condider to the old statament this revelation is not present in original form. Jesus(pbuh) was given calld injeel. Which was the gospal of jesus. The gospal of jesus(pbuh) is no where to be found we know that jesus preached the gospal where is it. No one in the right mind. According to methew, mark and johan. We know that word bibile is not present in the bibile..........lol.............. Christan will blindy say that the bibile present in its original form. According to john, methaw luke the authour of bible is unknown........lol...... The bibile is hunders of version no one similer to each other...lol.... I2s mean u make it in your charch. Its not the gospal of jesus.

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Sun 04/08/12 01:29 PM
Adultry punishment in the bibile. From NIV bibile
deut 22:22. If a man is found sleeping with another man wife both the man who slept with her and the women must be die.
Levitcus20:10 both the adulter and the adulteress mus be put in fire.
Mark 10: 11, any one who divorce his wife and marries another women .. Commet adultery aganist him.
I nothecd here by living in usa that more than 80% of population is divorces . People divorced each other and marry other people and consider tham selve christian MARK..
MARK I AM ASKING FROM YOU IF A WOMEN DOING SEX WITH DONKEY. SEX WITH DOG. SEX WITH CAT SEX WITH HORSE. SEX WITH BULL. SEX WITH SNAKE . SEX WITH HEN.
WHAT WILL BE THE PUNISHMENT FOR THAT.........LOL..........