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Topic: I love Jews
Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 02:41 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 12/06/11 02:43 PM
Talk about not answering direct questions. This is for 5apphire. I still have not gotten the answer to the questions I have asked over and over. Do you think Jews have been persecuted MORE than any other ethnic group or any other religious group in the world? Yes or no. If so, why do you think that is the case? If not, why do they need a "safe haven?"

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Tue 12/06/11 02:45 PM
Talk about not answering direct questions. This is for 5apphire. I still have not gotten the answer to the questions I have asked over and over. Do you think Jews have been persecuted MORE than any other ethnic group or any other religious group in the world? Yes or no. If so, why do you think that is the case? If not, why do they need a "safe haven?" At least you stopped telling people that they were saying Jews have been persecuted more than anyone else, then not being able to show they actually said it. That's a step in the right direction for you.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 02:48 PM
Another question for singmesweet, You indicated that you are non-religious if I am correct. Yet you say you are Jewish. You argued that you did not claim to be Zionist. Are you Pro-Zionism? If so, why? Do you think that Jews need a safe haven? If so, why? Why should Jews have the state of Israel? Why can't they just live anywhere and everywhere? Do you think Israel is a safe place? Jews of Israel continue to claim that their neighbors are trying to annihilate them. When will Israel finally be a "safe haven?"

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 12/06/11 02:49 PM
Talk about not answering direct questions. This is for 5apphire. I still have not gotten the answer to the questions I have asked over and over. Do you think Jews have been persecuted MORE than any other ethnic group or any other religious group in the world? Yes or no. If so, why do you think that is the case? If not, why do they need a "safe haven?" Name a religion which had nearly 50% of adherents murdered.

5apphire Joined Fri 11/11/11 Posts: 462	Tue 12/06/11 02:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MzZ1ItF-Jw .

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 02:53 PM
Talk about not answering direct questions. This is for 5apphire. I still have not gotten the answer to the questions I have asked over and over. Do you think Jews have been persecuted MORE than any other ethnic group or any other religious group in the world? Yes or no. If so, why do you think that is the case? If not, why do they need a "safe haven?" At least you stopped telling people that they were saying Jews have been persecuted more than anyone else, then not being able to show they actually said it. That's a step in the right direction for you. People have always said that Jews are persecuted more than anyone else. It is part and partial of the whole Zionist propaganda. Feel sorry for the Jews. Let the Zionists kill anyone they want because they are "only defending themselves." Zionists have been crying that tune for a long time to justify the tyranny that is the Zionist lobby. Zionists are not all "Jews." Jews are not all Zionists. Pat Robertson and the 700 club nutballs preach Zionism. They are looking forward to the end of the world because they think their alien savior god is coming back.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 02:55 PM
Talk about not answering direct questions. This is for 5apphire. I still have not gotten the answer to the questions I have asked over and over. Do you think Jews have been persecuted MORE than any other ethnic group or any other religious group in the world? Yes or no. If so, why do you think that is the case? If not, why do they need a "safe haven?" Name a religion which had nearly 50% of adherents murdered. I don't think anyone knows what the numbers really are. Neither do you.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 12/06/11 02:56 PM
Another question for singmesweet, Do you mind if I answer? I don't care, I'm going to anyways. You indicated that you are non-religious if I am correct. Yet you say you are Jewish. You can be a Jewish atheist or agnostic. You argued that you did not claim to be Zionist. No, she made a statement of fact, not an argument. Are you Pro-Zionism? I am. If so, why? The Jews need a safe haven. Do you think that Jews need a safe haven? If so, why? Yes. The Holocaust. Let me guess, you think it was exaggerated or you "question" the facts or statistics surrounding the holocaust. Why should Jews have the state of Israel? Already answered. Why can't they just live anywhere and everywhere? Nearly half of them were wiped out in this thing called the Holocaust. Unfortunately, they discovered that their neighbors weren't too interested in saving the Jews. Interesting isn't it, that your neighbors often don't value your life as much as you value it? Do you think Israel is a safe place? Yes. Jews of Israel continue to claim that their neighbors are trying to annihilate them. You say "claim". What would you call daily rocket attacks? When will Israel finally be a "safe haven?" It already is. It's far safer than many places in the world for Jews. Try being a Jew in Iran, where your whole family can't leave on vacation at the same time. Or in Saudi Arabia where you can't have a synagogue.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 02:57 PM
But Spider, even IFF you think that Jews are the most persecuted and hated ethnic group or religion .... why do you think that is the case?

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 12/06/11 02:57 PM
I don't think anyone knows what the numbers really are. Neither do you. Careful, your "love" for Jews is showing.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 12/06/11 02:58 PM Edited by Spidercmb on Tue 12/06/11 02:58 PM
But Spider, even IFF you think that Jews are the most persecuted and hated ethnic group or religion .... why do you think that is the case? Because they are shape shifting, blood drinking reptilians from the fourth dimension.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Tue 12/06/11 02:59 PM
It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians" Again for the third time in the last week, I would love to know how "Israel is oppressing the arabs who live in Israel." Is this is an example of one of your Questions? If it is in relation to my post them I never mentioned Arabs.

5apphire Joined Fri 11/11/11 Posts: 462	Tue 12/06/11 03:00 PM
Seems it is not too safe in Brooklyn either for Jews. Scandinavia isn't that friendly to Jews. There are anti-semetic attacks here in the UK too. Thank goodness my daughters in Israel know some krav maga although they haven't had a chance to use it yet. No-one will mess with them and come away with their faculties!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 03:01 PM
Seriously, why do you think they are so hated and persecuted? You believe that Jews are not safe in the world, but that Israel is a safe haven for them. Where in the world now are Jews being persecuted and how are they being persecuted?

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 12/06/11 03:01 PM
Opps, my bad. This thread isn't about feeding the trolls, it's about loving Jews. If you don't love Jews, go to your "I Hate Jews" threads and hide behind the word "anti-Zionist". This thread is for the love of all things Jewish, which includes the desire to return to their homelands, namely Zionism.

5apphire Joined Fri 11/11/11 Posts: 462	Tue 12/06/11 03:01 PM
It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians" Again for the third time in the last week, I would love to know how "Israel is oppressing the arabs who live in Israel." Is this is an example of one of your Questions? If it is in relation to my post them I never mentioned Arabs. Arabs are what others call Palestinians.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Tue 12/06/11 03:02 PM
@ Spider..It already is. It's far safer than many places in the world for Jews. Try being a Jew in Iran, where your whole family can't leave on vacation at the same time. Or in Saudi Arabia where you can't have a synagogue. 25,000 Jews in Iran and are Quite Happy there.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Tue 12/06/11 03:02 PM
It’s a tragedy that the Israelis – a people who must understand better than almost anybody the horrors of oppression – are now acting as oppressors. As the great Jewish writer Primo Levi once remarked "Everybody has their Jews, and for the Israelis it’s the Palestinians" Again for the third time in the last week, I would love to know how "Israel is oppressing the arabs who live in Israel." Is this is an example of one of your Questions? If it is in relation to my post them I never mentioned Arabs. Arabs are what others call Palestinians. Ask me the question in relation to my post then

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 12/06/11 03:03 PM
Seems it is not too safe in Brooklyn either for Jews. Scandinavia isn't that friendly to Jews. There are anti-semetic attacks here in the UK too. Thank goodness my daughters in Israel know some krav maga although they haven't had a chance to use it yet. No-one will mess with them and come away with their faculties! Brooklyn? Very funny. What are some examples of "anti-semetic" attacks anywhere in the world other than in the middle east where there is a war going on?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 12/06/11 03:04 PM
Talk about not answering direct questions. This is for 5apphire. I still have not gotten the answer to the questions I have asked over and over. Do you think Jews have been persecuted MORE than any other ethnic group or any other religious group in the world? Yes or no. If so, why do you think that is the case? If not, why do they need a "safe haven?" At least you stopped telling people that they were saying Jews have been persecuted more than anyone else, then not being able to show they actually said it. That's a step in the right direction for you. People have always said that Jews are persecuted more than anyone else. It is part and partial of the whole Zionist propaganda. Feel sorry for the Jews. Let the Zionists kill anyone they want because they are "only defending themselves." Zionists have been crying that tune for a long time to justify the tyranny that is the Zionist lobby. Zionists are not all "Jews." Jews are not all Zionists. Pat Robertson and the 700 club nutballs preach Zionism. They are looking forward to the end of the world because they think their alien savior god is coming back. WTH crazy Pat has to do with Zionism?