Topic: Where in the Genesis is Jesus - part 2
CowboyGH's photo
Sat 12/24/11 02:26 PM








I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...


There is The Son and the Holy Spirit though. The Son was in the form of The Word at that point and time, he had not taken on the flesh.


there is nothing about "The Word" in Genesis


Because the Word is one with the father, he is "God". At this point and time, there was no specific reason to separate the persons of God. It also doesn't say "The Father". Just says "God and LORD God in certain places".


you just recently claim that the holy spirit and the holy ghost was two seperated entites because the names was mention in different places ...and then you discovereed that you were wrong about that ....


That's called learning if you didn't know.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:27 PM








I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.


well since the author was narrating the bible...logic would dictate that the verse was being narrated by the author


No the Author was merely passing on information, not dictated by his thoughts or feelings.

It's not a story someone just made up, sat down, and wrote/narrated what they wanted it to say.



if God had said it, then they author would have phrase it in that manner....since the author didn't do that, then that should be a clue that it was a narration by the author

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Sat 12/24/11 02:29 PM







Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner


At that point and time the only law we had for reproduction was to fill the Earth and subdue it.


doesn't matter...God commanded Adam and Eve to commit incest and forever thrust mankind into sin ...this is why Jesus would have to destroy all of mankind to get rid of original Sin....perhaps he will do that in The Rapture


Again no, "Sin" is not an object. It is disobedience to God. The commandment from God about this was to fill the Earth and subdue it. And besides that, Jesus wouldn't have to destroy anything to get rid of the original sin. Only offer forgiveness if one wishes to accept it. Jesus died for each and everyone of our sins. We are not condemned by any "original sin". Original sin has no more power over us, has no bearing.


the only way to get rid of this original sin is for God to declare that incest is no longer a sin

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 12/24/11 02:29 PM









I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.


well since the author was narrating the bible...logic would dictate that the verse was being narrated by the author


No the Author was merely passing on information, not dictated by his thoughts or feelings.

It's not a story someone just made up, sat down, and wrote/narrated what they wanted it to say.



if God had said it, then they author would have phrase it in that manner....since the author didn't do that, then that should be a clue that it was a narration by the author


This is why the Bible is called the word of God. All the information we have is given to us by God.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:31 PM









I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


the angels didn't exist before Genesis ....so can you explain who he was Lord over ...


There is The Son and the Holy Spirit though. The Son was in the form of The Word at that point and time, he had not taken on the flesh.


there is nothing about "The Word" in Genesis


Because the Word is one with the father, he is "God". At this point and time, there was no specific reason to separate the persons of God. It also doesn't say "The Father". Just says "God and LORD God in certain places".


you just recently claim that the holy spirit and the holy ghost was two seperated entites because the names was mention in different places ...and then you discovereed that you were wrong about that ....


That's called learning if you didn't know.


no... it's called "not knowing what you are talking about" ...

how can someone that read the bible not know that the holy ghost and the holy spirit are the same entity

this is why Christians need to take their butts to church

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Sat 12/24/11 02:32 PM








Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner


At that point and time the only law we had for reproduction was to fill the Earth and subdue it.


doesn't matter...God commanded Adam and Eve to commit incest and forever thrust mankind into sin ...this is why Jesus would have to destroy all of mankind to get rid of original Sin....perhaps he will do that in The Rapture


Again no, "Sin" is not an object. It is disobedience to God. The commandment from God about this was to fill the Earth and subdue it. And besides that, Jesus wouldn't have to destroy anything to get rid of the original sin. Only offer forgiveness if one wishes to accept it. Jesus died for each and everyone of our sins. We are not condemned by any "original sin". Original sin has no more power over us, has no bearing.


the only way to get rid of this original sin is for God to declare that incest is no longer a sin


No, incest is biological brothers/sisters having sex. We aren't all biological brothers/sisters.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:33 PM









Only Jesus can and or did defeat death. No one else has that power. Jesus spent time in Hell so you would not have to.


wouldn't that explain why he didn't die ...and why you still have sins


I have been washed clean by the blood of Jesus.


Mankind was born from the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve which God deem incest to be sin, for Jesus to get rid of these sins he has to get rid of all mankind....this is why you will always be a sinner


At that point and time the only law we had for reproduction was to fill the Earth and subdue it.


doesn't matter...God commanded Adam and Eve to commit incest and forever thrust mankind into sin ...this is why Jesus would have to destroy all of mankind to get rid of original Sin....perhaps he will do that in The Rapture


Again no, "Sin" is not an object. It is disobedience to God. The commandment from God about this was to fill the Earth and subdue it. And besides that, Jesus wouldn't have to destroy anything to get rid of the original sin. Only offer forgiveness if one wishes to accept it. Jesus died for each and everyone of our sins. We are not condemned by any "original sin". Original sin has no more power over us, has no bearing.


the only way to get rid of this original sin is for God to declare that incest is no longer a sin


No, incest is biological brothers/sisters having sex. We aren't all biological brothers/sisters.


And besides that, that has nothing to do with the original sin. Original sin was when Adam/Eve at of the tree. Nothing to do with incest or anything of such.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:36 PM










I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.


well since the author was narrating the bible...logic would dictate that the verse was being narrated by the author


No the Author was merely passing on information, not dictated by his thoughts or feelings.

It's not a story someone just made up, sat down, and wrote/narrated what they wanted it to say.



if God had said it, then they author would have phrase it in that manner....since the author didn't do that, then that should be a clue that it was a narration by the author


This is why the Bible is called the word of God. All the information we have is given to us by God.


yes but God needed Ghostwriters (no pun intended) and proof readers to turn it into paperback format

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Sat 12/24/11 02:39 PM

No, incest is biological brothers/sisters having sex. We aren't all biological brothers/sisters.


according to your belief...all of mankind was spawn from two people that was of the same blood......that's incest

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Sat 12/24/11 02:40 PM

And besides that, that has nothing to do with the original sin. Original sin was when Adam/Eve at of the tree. Nothing to do with incest or anything of such.


Original Sin began when God gave the command to "Be Fruitful and multiply"...this is what started the incestous relationship between Adam and Eve

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 12/24/11 02:43 PM


No, incest is biological brothers/sisters having sex. We aren't all biological brothers/sisters.


according to your belief...all of mankind was spawn from two people that was of the same blood......that's incest


The Hebrew word "adam" literally means man as in mankind, humanity, and not an individual being.

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Sat 12/24/11 02:45 PM



No, incest is biological brothers/sisters having sex. We aren't all biological brothers/sisters.


according to your belief...all of mankind was spawn from two people that was of the same blood......that's incest


The Hebrew word "adam" literally means man as in mankind, humanity, and not an individual being.


in Hebrew "Funches" means Lord God ....


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Sun 12/25/11 11:35 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sun 12/25/11 11:51 PM


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Sat 12/31/11 09:52 AM








I already showed this.

Genesis 2:4
4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


the verse you keep presenting took place after the 6 days of creation...how could anyone be Lord God if there were nothing to be Lord over ....only after man was created did The Father become Lord



There has always been someone to be lord over. Jesus is not just our lord. Jesus is the LORD, he is lord of the angels as well.


And no this passage doesn't occur "after" anything, this is a verse that sums up the starting verses.


sorry but that verse is clearly a narration from one of the authors of the bible that deem that God was his Lord....nowhere does God himself call himself Lord God during Creation


Does in the verse I've supplied. You know not if it is a narration from one of the authors of the scriptures.


well since the author was narrating the bible...logic would dictate that the verse was being narrated by the author


No the Author was merely passing on information, not dictated by his thoughts or feelings.

It's not a story someone just made up, sat down, and wrote/narrated what they wanted it to say.
That's exactly what it is Cowboy. When you want to control the masses, you give them a story that they can/will believe in. Hence, the Bible. The general population was largely uneducated and would fall for anything, so make incredible stories up about how things happened a few hundred years after they happen and viola! You have prophecies fulfilled!

What gets me is people are still killing themselves and others over religion. People are quick to laugh at Alah promising 72 virgins in the afterlife to Muslims, but is it not strange to think some of us will be given angel wings and fly up in the clouds? Personally I believe the stories are all fabricated by man because people are afraid of death and have the subconscious need for these stories to comfort them.

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Sat 12/31/11 10:56 AM
It's funny how the only way peeps can find out if theres a God or not is through death.Why death why not why we are alive?Simple cause God does not exist.Abrahamic religions are cults just alot suckers believe in that crap.

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Sat 12/31/11 11:22 AM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sat 12/31/11 11:24 AM

It's funny how the only way peeps can find out if theres a God or not is through death.Why death why not why we are alive?Simple cause God does not exist.Abrahamic religions are cults just alot suckers believe in that crap.


Did you know scientific studies have proved that when you hit a deep sleep your mind puts off a certain chemical in your brain that the only other time this chemical is present they have found is released is at the moment of death.

Why?

The scriptures over and over say death is like sleep.

Thousands of years ago people of faith were told and believed what it just took modern science to confirm.

Kinda like do not eat the fat.. what are we told today.. or how about do not eat the blood for life is in the blood.

Both took science untill now to see that both can cause sickness. But 50 years ago eating the fat was good because thats where the flavor is.

Yet now we know better.. But see the faithful were already Blessed because for thousands of Years thier Faith thier knowledge was far above science. Hopefully science will wake up to the faith of yahweh and learn how to live more abundently.. Paraise Yahweh..Miles

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Sat 12/31/11 11:23 AM

It's funny how the only way peeps can find out if theres a God or not is through death.Why death why not why we are alive?Simple cause God does not exist.Abrahamic religions are cults just alot suckers believe in that crap.


Did you know scientific studies have proved that when you hit a deep your mind puts off a certain chemical in your brain that the only other time this chemical is present they have found is released is at the moment of death.

Why?

The scriptures over and over say death is like sleep.

Thousands of years ago people of faith were told and believed what it just took modern science to confirm.

Kinda like do not eat the fat.. what are we told today.. or how about do not eat the blood for life is in the blood.

Both took science untill now to see that both can cause sickness. But 50 years ago eating the fat was good because thats where the flavor is.

Yet now we know better.. But see the faithful were already Blessed because for thousands of Years thier Faith thier knowledge was far above science. Hopefully science will wake up to the faith of Yahweh and learn how to live more abundently.. Paraise Yahweh..Miles

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Sat 12/31/11 11:26 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 12/31/11 11:31 AM


It's funny how the only way peeps can find out if theres a God or not is through death.Why death why not why we are alive?Simple cause God does not exist.Abrahamic religions are cults just alot suckers believe in that crap.


Did you know scientific studies have proved that when you hit a deep your mind puts off a certain chemical in your brain that the only other time this chemical is present they have found is released is at the moment of death.

Why?

The scriptures over and over say death is like sleep.

Thousands of years ago people of faith were told and believed what it just took modern science to confirm.

Kinda like do not eat the fat.. what are we told today.. or how about do not eat the blood for life is in the blood.

Both took science untill now to see that both can cause sickness. But 50 years ago eating the fat was good because thats where the flavor is.

Yet now we know better.. But see the faithful were already Blessed because for thousands of Years thier Faith thier knowledge was far above science. Hopefully science will wake up to the faith of Yahweh and learn how to live more abundently.. Paraise Yahweh..Miles
could you link to that Study!
And please don't let it be a Creationist Site!


Just because someone looks like being asleep when they are dead definitely does not in any way indicate the knew about some type of Chemical in the Brain!
Really too far-fetched!

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Sat 12/31/11 09:16 PM



It's funny how the only way peeps can find out if theres a God or not is through death.Why death why not why we are alive?Simple cause God does not exist.Abrahamic religions are cults just alot suckers believe in that crap.


Did you know scientific studies have proved that when you hit a deep your mind puts off a certain chemical in your brain that the only other time this chemical is present they have found is released is at the moment of death.

Why?

The scriptures over and over say death is like sleep.

Thousands of years ago people of faith were told and believed what it just took modern science to confirm.

Kinda like do not eat the fat.. what are we told today.. or how about do not eat the blood for life is in the blood.

Both took science untill now to see that both can cause sickness. But 50 years ago eating the fat was good because thats where the flavor is.

Yet now we know better.. But see the faithful were already Blessed because for thousands of Years thier Faith thier knowledge was far above science. Hopefully science will wake up to the faith of Yahweh and learn how to live more abundently.. Paraise Yahweh..Miles
could you link to that Study!
And please don't let it be a Creationist Site!


Just because someone looks like being asleep when they are dead definitely does not in any way indicate the knew about some type of Chemical in the Brain!
Really too far-fetched!


DMT is a good place to start.. is all around the world

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Sat 12/31/11 09:52 PM



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