A date with the intent of courtship is usually for the purpose of marriage or sex...... eventually.



Otherwise its business, or friendship.

I think many here may disagree, as there are many who have said they're never getting married again. But yes, dating will most likely lead to sex, whether the couple is marriage bound or not. However, dating and having sex is not necessarily an indication that a couple will get married. I don't know about you, but if a man brought up marriage on a first date, that would be way too serious for me.

And speaking for myself only, if I'm out with someone for business or just hanging out with a friend, I don't call it a date.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

If she wants me to put out, then she does.

Now days people just move in together, which I'm all in favor of as an alternative to marriage.

Why enter into a contract that involves the state?

If a man brought up marriage on the first date it might freak me out if I thought he was serious, but it depends on the context of the conversation.

I am too independent to live with someone. I would say get your own house.

Where I was coming from(pardon the pun)was, if a woman is on top is she screwing?

I do want to throw this out.

I feel really bad for the people who have lost their source of income. This could happen to anyone these days and it should not stand in the way of love or seeking companionship. And you should not feel the looser because this has happened to you.

In the US we have lost 75% of the mom and pop shops in the last 10 years. For many of these skilled and trained people who are very specialized in their craft it has been a nightmare and nothing shy of. I don't believe in de-humanizing anyone during these trying times and this should also be applied to us talking about dating.

Our situation here in the states could easily become far worse before it gets better and those who are seeking a normal life should in no way be looked down on for current misfortunes.

I don't believe anyone here is doing that but from an outsider looking in at this thread it could be maybe close to this.

We might want to be cautious on this end of things. I know people who were calling others names like "looser" only months ago and now haven't got a penny, home, or much food. I think this is an area that we need to be careful not to judge before we think it through. Seeing someone should not be so surrounded by the money issue, that defeats the purpose of socializing.

if you ain't got the money to take a girly out i'm sure she would say yes to dining indoors with a bowl of chips an ketchup

prolly no

Well according to some of the reports I have seen on economy this last weekend this might be more true than we think.

I sincerely hope it turns around fairly soon, but the reports are that if this next term of Presidency doesn't have an uplifting effect (either way it goes) we are looking at a double dip for certain.

no - it's just not safe, unfortunately, to go to man's home until you have a chance to get to know him

that has far more to with that idea than the economy

well maybe the restaurants will serve chips and ketchup

I'll take two 50 cent meal deals please

If you are hurting for money, you can always make a picnic lunch and share that with the person you are dating. You get to show off your cooking skills (or lack thereof) and you get to show him/her how romantic you can be.

classy too

nice post

The point is being willing to keep the date cheap if need be. If a woman isn't willing to pay for her share and wants the guy to pay, she may have to be open to a cheap date at times, rather than expecting something more extravagant.

I`m old school concerning this forum.

When I ask a lady out on a date, I pay.

The date may not be too extravagant but we both usually have a good time.

A meal and a movie shouldn`t put a BIG DENT in your pocket.

Unless you are trying to overly impress.

With me, what you see is what you get.

According to this girl, the guy pays.

Taken from Yahoo news 11-30-11:

A New York woman is being scrutinized and praised after people learned that she used a dating website to procure $1,200 a month in free meals.


Match.com
According to Business Insider, 23-year-old Jessica Sporty was deep in debt. Sporty found it difficult to live on her $45,000 annual salary after spending nearly $1,500 a month in rent, paying her credit card bill, and buying food. So she signed up for Match.com and was quickly going on five dates a week. Sporty even created a spreadsheet with detailed information on each of her dates, limiting each guy to a maximum of five. Sporty was taken to high-end New York restaurants, and one of her dates even bought her a $200 bottle of champagne. The response on social media has people divided. Business Insider even changed her name to protect her identity in the original story, because she was receiving so much negative attention. One woman tweeted, "gotta give it to her," but others are saying it's "the most annoying thing I have ever read." Most men have responded with anger, admitting that what Sporty did is "their biggest fear." But scared men, there's no need to be worried. Sporty is off the market. She's currently in a relationship and no longer on the dating website. Single and ready to mingle? According to a survey on AreYouInterested.com, New York City ranks as the No. 1 online and mobile dating city in the country.

Well...a man still will offer to pay if he truly digs

a woman ;but a woman with any sense of self worth, is not going

to be out to use him....in fact, if the relationship

continues, she will later reciprocate by fixing him a

fabulous dinner , for instance.


But even if the man truly is into a woman,he surely won't be for

long, if he finds out that she is just out to use him.



And if there is a financial problem on his part, and he still

wants to pay?

Well, A caring woman will offer to pay.... regardless of how

much he digs her, and wants to pay.

Well you would not impress me. Anyone who goes out without the ability to pay for themselves Id see as a mooch.

HOWEVER, I never concern myself with these kinds of issues, I ALWAYS offer to pay for people that "I" invite out on a "date".

I'm with JB on this one if you don't want it to be a "date" then just go get coffee.


Date:
"Hey Susan, I was wondering if you would like to go out Friday night to (fill in the blank romantic restaurant)"

Not a date:
"Hey Susan, a couple friends are heading on over to (fill in random place to eat) Friday night, or hey I am heading out to random place friday night an wanted some company, are you interested?"

So if not a date, its ALWAYS dutch unless I am feeling REALLY nice, otherwise if I ask you on a date, I WANT to take YOU out on the town, not ask you to take yourself out with me along for the ride lol.

To me it is all about intentions. I don't make my mom pay for flowers either . . .

I only see a problem if she is gay. Which from the article it seems she is not, AND she did end up finding someone she matches with well.

I see it this way, ALL of those guys KNEW it was highly likly they would NOT end up with her, (its a baseline assumption in dating, I mean who realistically assume MR/MS right at each data HAHA), so anything they spent was really just them being gracious, if spark fly I can guarantee she would scrap the dating journal and they would be together.

Whatevs dood.

As far as male female who should pay, I dont see gender as a deciding factor, its more about taking a person out means paying.