Well, I'm sure there a many armchair warriors that become brave within forums. Especially in the religious, and political forums. They would be kicked out of their offices for those comments, and view points.... I may not agree with their opinions, but it's freedom of speech.... (Off Topic..)

I think that's very true. There are many people here who probably say things in the forums that they'd never have the courage to say in real life. I guess they feel safe behind their keyboard.

I'm not one of them. I actually prefer the face to face confrontation.

One cannot change who they are seen as or who they live to other as,,one has to be THEM,,,,,
And many who learn your kind,compassionate, loving, and sweet..
THEY use that against you because SOME of them see that kindness in you as a weakness to exploit, and through THEM SAYING and ASKING for a real dude who's nice,laid back and sweet,,,THOSE ones who only PLAY with their asking and REALLY WANT AN ANIMAL WILD MAN, on the NASTY taste side of human behavior for a man to act or be..
THEY then FEEL they HAVE YOU,,and can do whatever they'd like to you or behind you,,as THEY DON'T REALLY FEEL A TRUE LOVE FOR YOU..
So THEN,,US NICE GUYS,,,get hurt and move-on,,as that woman just laughs and says good reddens,,THEN SHE POSTS ANOTHER POST,,asking for any nice guys left to be found in this world?
lol,,NO NOT ALL LADIES WHO ASK DO THIS,,but,,the ONES who have PLAYED in this GAME to them,,,know who they are and THEIR FEEL THEY WERE NOT AT FAULT,,that THEIR NICE GUY was not really a nice guy?
So in their next man,,,they will ask for a nice dude,,,but STILL in their internal motives WISH HIM TO BE MORE bad than HIS GOOD,,and their cycle continues to SWALLOW UP WHATS LEFT OF THE GOOD DUDES and make them callused to SHOWING THEIR NICE NORMAL MODES,,as then,,THEY TRY AND BE MORE A HARD-AZZZZ THAN THEY REALLY ARE,,THINKING THAT NEW WOMAN IS LIKE THEIR PAST ONE WHO PLAYED THAT GAME...
There ya go Ladies and Gentlemen,,,LIFE'S saga of the NICE GUY....
Thank You,,thank you very much,,,,,lol

I've been avoiding this thread because of the posts I've read. There has been a fair amount of criticism and speculation going around which doesn't seem to fit the spirit in which the thread was created. So, I avoided it until maybe the conversation turned a different direction.

Truth is, nice guys get used and abused. People treat them like door mats, but the nice guy usually shakes it off, even if heartbroken. After this happens so many times, he either finds the right woman, or he comes to feel defeated. Depression and embitterment might set in, or he might do a 180 and become a bad boy instead.

Often a nice guy is anything but boring because trouble follows him around. As much as he doesn't like drama, being stuck in the "friend zone" causes it to be drawn to him. Other guys might constantly poke fun at him, calling him gay. After all, the women only want the nice guy as a friend, to talk and give advice....much like the typical "gay friend". Everyone feels they can take advantage of the nice guy, whether is it a loan of money, or constantly bumming cigs, or even watching someone's dog.

Women wonder why chivalry is dead. It's not. It has been suppressed, just like all the nice guys.

Most women will not date male friends, which is odd because friends tend to be the people you are most compatible with. So, if you are looking for a nice guy, he's probably already your friend, or he's sitting a corner hoping everyone ignores him.

Sooo, you're not one of the nice guys?

I've always wondered why some guys insist on describing themselves as nice. There has got to be a much better way to describe yourself.

Thanks you two

Nice guys are all around, including many of the guys on this site. They don't always come in the "tidy with a bow" presentation and they may out may not be the smooth talking, flattery shoveling stereotypes. They may be jokesters or self proclaimed bad boys, but look out for the always smooth, too good to be true ones...they are the ones who, despite big followings and bravado MAY have you fooled. I have been fooled and pleasantly surprised...all courtesy of Mingle.

OK,,your right,,,,HI My name's Terry I be careful because I could become you bestfriend if you give me half a chance,,,,,,How's THAT?

COME TO THE BAD BOY DARKSIDE.........

A lot of these things can apply to nice girls also. We also seem to attract the bad guys who say, "Everyone sees me as the bad guy but you see the REAL me." or they show you a really sweet guy and when the bad boy comes out, you are either confused or you blame yourself.

We also get taken advantage of and treated like door mats.

It's not easy being a nice gal either.

wonderful

seriously, this was like pulling teeth, I just wanted to hear from the nice guys,, I hear enough from the self proclaimed rebels , players, and hardbutts

you would think I had asked for people to admit to an std or something...lol

thanx

Rather than claiming to be a "nice guy", I created a picture of what a nice guy deals with based on my own experiences. Everything I mentioned in my post is something I have had to deal with.

When I was 17, I even had a girl fake being interested in me just so she could get a ride wherever she wanted. Her parent had taken away her driving privileges. I got the last laugh when the state police came into work and handcuffed her for theft. She had been giving unauthorized discounts to employees, and someone found out. The look on her face was priceless.

here, here

The nice guys/girls need to stop letting people walk all over them then. If you feel that's happening to you, rather than complain about it, change what's going on.

me personally im a very nice and sincere guy who grew up in new york city.one of the hardest most roughest places,its not easy being nice to everyone.because i know first hand that people do take your kindness for weakness.but at times it does hurt when a woman is trying to use me for something or cant take the way i am.im really nice but not a punk or a succer at that.i have my limits on how women treat me.if i feel that there not for me,they definitely jet jettisoned.im not going to change who i am regardless of whom im with.because its there loss if they cant appreciate the type of person that i am.im not trying to be perfect or make myself sound like im the ultimate nice guy,which is bull crap.but i do know how to treat a lady and i am diamond in the rough. i do go hang out in different areas or places.doesnt matter if its in the ghetto to somewhere quaint.as long as me or my other is having a good time thats all that matters.im not going to just date or be with any woman,i do have my limits to.and will not settle for less..i dont live in new york any more but im still looking for my other half and have learned always keep a spare around.

Totally agree with this.

I may let someone take advantage of me once or twice while I size up their real intentions, but I'm not afraid to ignore them or give them the boot either!

I know the one girl we call Crazy Heather because her stories are outrageous, her views are weird, she can't hold onto a boyfriend, she's always mooching money for beer-gas-cigarettes, she doesn't have a job, and she snorts coke which she supposedly gave up. (I've seen her snort it in front of me) She's a very attractive girl, but very messed up. I tend to ignore her whenever I can because I don't want her around. I loaned her money a couple times, and never got paid back or even bought a beer to say thanks. See ya, mooch!

Real nice guys r welcome2mesg me.

In my experience the guys that claim to be "nice guys" were the most abusive I have ever met. Now when a guy keeps on insisting he is a nice guy; I wonder what he is really hiding.