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A belief in a god can't be proven wrong, no way. A beleif in no god also can't be proven wrong, no way. But the Bible and its definition of God as a Christian god can very easily be proven to be riddled with gaping logical impossibilities, which necesseraly render the bible not to be believed. But please don't lose heart, Christians; all scriptures, of all religions, are riddled with logically impossible stuff. In the Hindu religion, for instance, the Creator gets born to a couple, a relgular earthling couple, and later in his life the creator, when he is old enought to be able to know this, goes back in time to tell his parents to travel to such and such city to conceive him, nine months of course before his birth. And I imagine that still later in his life he creates the world that contain his own parents, who will later birth him. The Hindus beieve that this is the absolute truth. Christians believe that God forgave everyone, as he has said, he advises to not judge as he has also forgiven everyone, and then God also says to us better to avoid sin coz we'll be judged and punished for our sins -- which, he just finished saying, have been forgiven. The Christians believe that this is the absolute truth. I took a comparative religions course in college, and enjoyed going to the Buddhist temple (they are essentially an atheistic belief system) and a Hindu temple. At the Hindu temple, the monk explained a broad overview of their views, and when I asked his view on atheism, he just responded that all paths return to God. An atheist has to walk his/her path as well, and as long as one follows the basic moral tenets of being a good person, then they're still working for God. I thought it was interesting. Do you believe that Christianity teaches the same thing? Personally, no. With a Hindu, one could be Christian and still be Hindu. With a Christian, it's always said that the only way into Heaven is by acknowledging Jesus and His dying for one's sins. Otherwise, one is going to the Christian Hell. I know a very few Christians who still feel so long as you're good, you have a chance, but it's slim to none, if they're honest about it. |
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Sorry to bust your guys bubble.....
I am God. Deal with it. THIS is the trick with dating a Christian. They are FREAKS..they feel guilty and dirty the next day. Take them out to a club/bar...get them bombed...have cro-mag neandrethal sex....then they feel bad cause God will spank them when they die if they don't go feel bad about it at church the next day. So...for Catholics and Seventh day Adventist...take em out on Fridays. Baptists you can take out Friday AND Saturday. Sleep off your hangover in church the next day while checking out the other christians who did the same damned thing you did last night. IF they wanna talk religion during non-intercourse moments....bite the bullet and just do it. I mean seriously...ANY partner is gonna have an interest that you wont actually give a damned about...God...Oprah...LifeTime.... In the interest of getting some happy time....pretend like you give a f***. If you ain't willing to.... someone else will hit it. |
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How is it that after 50 years I still get sucked into these lame-azz discussions? Ho-hum...  Cheers...
Hi Ted. 
Nice to see you back
Oy, sweetie...
Hope that you're doing well!?! Who's that handsome fella in your pic? haha. My best to both... |
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Sorry to bust your guys bubble..... I am God. Deal with it. THIS is the trick with dating a Christian. They are FREAKS..they feel guilty and dirty the next day. Take them out to a club/bar...get them bombed...have cro-mag neandrethal sex....then they feel bad cause God will spank them when they die if they don't go feel bad about it at church the next day. So...for Catholics and Seventh day Adventist...take em out on Fridays. Baptists you can take out Friday AND Saturday. Sleep off your hangover in church the next day while checking out the other christians who did the same damned thing you did last night. IF they wanna talk religion during non-intercourse moments....bite the bullet and just do it. I mean seriously...ANY partner is gonna have an interest that you wont actually give a damned about...God...Oprah...LifeTime.... In the interest of getting some happy time....pretend like you give a f***. If you ain't willing to.... someone else will hit it. 
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1. The reluctance of Christians to bow to logic, and abandon their faith due to the unassailable logic that refutes the bible, right after a particular debate or another on the forums. Cute. It's ironic that Atheists always talk about how Christians try to convert them, but they have no qualms about insulting the intelligence of Christians. All the while ignoring all of the famous mathematicians, philosophers, inventors and scientists who were also Christians. What's worse, trying to convince someone your beliefs are right or calling them stupid? I'll tell you which one is scientific: Trying to convince someone you are right. I'll tell you which one is juvenile: Calling names. You make another cute point here, but not applicable to me. I call people stupid who are stupid, regardless of their relgious conviction. That's me. I refuse to be generalized with all other atheists on this issue. As you also must not generalize about all christians. I am debating with christians in this forum. I am not debating with Plato, Newton, Descartes, or Immanuel Kant. You can't generalize that because Kant, Newton, etc. were very intelligent, and Christian, all other Christians must also be intelligent. Much like not all atheists are intelligent. The stupid atheists annoy me just as much as the stupid Christians. You don't know what scientific means, when you say "tell you which one is scientific: Trying to convince someone you are right." This expression, and many others like this by Christians, shows their inability and reluctance in case of an ability, to see that scientificness, atheism, anti-bible, and logic are all NOT always the same or occurring together. Someoen can be scientific and christian, or scientific and atheist. Someone can be logical and christian, or logical and atheist. Someone can be religious but not bible-worshipper, but he can't be an atheist and he can't be a christian. ------- I explain the inexact boundaries of otherwise exactly defined terms of conceptual terms in the English language in the mind and world of a Christian with the ability of the Christian to place his faith above all else, and disregard all other human knowledge as only an accoutrament to faith. Because the christians do not care about the exactness of the language, they are able to interpret bible passages any which way they like, and they also unwittingly lead the atheist debaters astray, but not on purpose. If I say "scientist" I imagine that you know what I say. I imagine that you speak the same language. But now I see that Christians may or might disregard my arguments due to impoverished language skills. If someone says "a more scientific way is to convicne someone", then that tells me that my language, the formal English, and the meaning of words in it, is for a Christian and unimportant and largely negligable part of the human existence. If "science" and "logic" are the same for a christian, which it is apparently, then my carefully chosen words of course don't reach the christian. They are unable to comprehend me NOT because they are naturally stupid, but because their faith has stupefied them. |
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I've been an Atheist for more than 20 years. I have, from time to time, come across people that seemed to fear (I don't think that's too strong of a word) me. As if having no relationship with god means I must be completely without morals and may kill them for the slightest infraction. However, this is not the norm. I haven't had any trouble finding women to date. In fact, it's never been an issue for me. I have dated Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and many others. Perhaps you take Atheism to seriously? Really? They call you "demonic?" Could it have something to do with the weird demonic looking picture in your profile? Or calling yourself "athiest" rather than "non religious" or "other"? For me, when a person makes it a point to label themselves atheist, my impression is that they are flat out making a statement I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, PERIOD. Then on top if it, a scary looking picture.... well all I can say is quit whining. |
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How is it that after 50 years I still get sucked into these lame-azz discussions? Ho-hum... Cheers...
Hi Ted.
Nice to see you back
Oy, sweetie...
Hope that you're doing well!?! Who's that handsome fella in your pic? haha. My best to both... Doing as well as I can right now... 
That's TheCaptain when he came here for my birthday in Nov. 
Hope you're going to stick around for a while! 
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I've been an Atheist for more than 20 years. I have, from time to time, come across people that seemed to fear (I don't think that's too strong of a word) me. As if having no relationship with god means I must be completely without morals and may kill them for the slightest infraction. However, this is not the norm. I haven't had any trouble finding women to date. In fact, it's never been an issue for me. I have dated Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and many others. Perhaps you take Atheism to seriously? Really? They call you "demonic?" Could it have something to do with the weird demonic looking picture in your profile? Or calling yourself "athiest" rather than "non religious" or "other"? For me, when a person makes it a point to label themselves atheist, my impression is that they are flat out making a statement I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, PERIOD. Then on top if it, a scary looking picture.... well all I can say is quit whining. I thought you were asking for an evaluation of why you might not be having luck dating Christians. I have no problem with atheists or with dating them. I would not date a serious Christian myself. They might try to get me to go to their church. 
I think the best thing to do is to just not talk about religion or politics with your date, have a nice meal and some hot sex and be done with it. 
I'm more like krupa I guess, I think I'm god. I do believe in myself, so I'm not an atheist. 
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I've been an Atheist for more than 20 years. I have, from time to time, come across people that seemed to fear (I don't think that's too strong of a word) me. As if having no relationship with god means I must be completely without morals and may kill them for the slightest infraction. However, this is not the norm. I haven't had any trouble finding women to date. In fact, it's never been an issue for me. I have dated Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and many others. Perhaps you take Atheism to seriously? Really? They call you "demonic?" Could it have something to do with the weird demonic looking picture in your profile? Or calling yourself "athiest" rather than "non religious" or "other"? For me, when a person makes it a point to label themselves atheist, my impression is that they are flat out making a statement I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, PERIOD. Then on top if it, a scary looking picture.... well all I can say is quit whining. Any site I've been on, it's the same way. Shrugs. Even a few of the atheist/freethinker sites are not useful, at least that I've found. |
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A belief in a god can't be proven wrong, no way. A beleif in no god also can't be proven wrong, no way. But the Bible and its definition of God as a Christian god can very easily be proven to be riddled with gaping logical impossibilities, which necesseraly render the bible not to be believed. But please don't lose heart, Christians; all scriptures, of all religions, are riddled with logically impossible stuff. In the Hindu religion, for instance, the Creator gets born to a couple, a relgular earthling couple, and later in his life the creator, when he is old enought to be able to know this, goes back in time to tell his parents to travel to such and such city to conceive him, nine months of course before his birth. And I imagine that still later in his life he creates the world that contain his own parents, who will later birth him. The Hindus beieve that this is the absolute truth. Christians believe that God forgave everyone, as he has said, he advises to not judge as he has also forgiven everyone, and then God also says to us better to avoid sin coz we'll be judged and punished for our sins -- which, he just finished saying, have been forgiven. The Christians believe that this is the absolute truth. I took a comparative religions course in college, and enjoyed going to the Buddhist temple (they are essentially an atheistic belief system) and a Hindu temple. At the Hindu temple, the monk explained a broad overview of their views, and when I asked his view on atheism, he just responded that all paths return to God. An atheist has to walk his/her path as well, and as long as one follows the basic moral tenets of being a good person, then they're still working for God. I thought it was interesting. Do you believe that Christianity teaches the same thing? Personally, no. With a Hindu, one could be Christian and still be Hindu. With a Christian, it's always said that the only way into Heaven is by acknowledging Jesus and His dying for one's sins. Otherwise, one is going to the Christian Hell. I know a very few Christians who still feel so long as you're good, you have a chance, but it's slim to none, if they're honest about it. I said Christianity, not Christians... |
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I thought you were asking for an evaluation of why you might not be having luck dating Christians. I have no problem with atheists or with dating them. I would not date a serious Christian myself. They might try to get me to go to their church.
I think the best thing to do is to just not talk about religion or politics with your date, have a nice meal and some hot sex and be done with it.
I'm more like krupa I guess, I think I'm god. I do believe in myself, so I'm not an atheist.
Well, that works if you want to just go out. But not for semi-serious dating!
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Sorry to bust your guys bubble..... I am God. Deal with it. THIS is the trick with dating a Christian. They are FREAKS..they feel guilty and dirty the next day. Take them out to a club/bar...get them bombed...have cro-mag neandrethal sex....then they feel bad cause God will spank them when they die if they don't go feel bad about it at church the next day. So...for Catholics and Seventh day Adventist...take em out on Fridays. Baptists you can take out Friday AND Saturday. Sleep off your hangover in church the next day while checking out the other christians who did the same damned thing you did last night. IF they wanna talk religion during non-intercourse moments....bite the bullet and just do it. I mean seriously...ANY partner is gonna have an interest that you wont actually give a damned about...God...Oprah...LifeTime.... In the interest of getting some happy time....pretend like you give a f***. If you ain't willing to.... someone else will hit it. Haha,a bit of sense in a dry moment... But don't forget that they possess a bit of humanity too. Pretending that we give a f*** is what makes us humans seem humane, no? Just keep 'em outta that missionary position-thing... that's a bad rep all around. |
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A belief in a god can't be proven wrong, no way. A beleif in no god also can't be proven wrong, no way. But the Bible and its definition of God as a Christian god can very easily be proven to be riddled with gaping logical impossibilities, which necesseraly render the bible not to be believed. But please don't lose heart, Christians; all scriptures, of all religions, are riddled with logically impossible stuff. In the Hindu religion, for instance, the Creator gets born to a couple, a relgular earthling couple, and later in his life the creator, when he is old enought to be able to know this, goes back in time to tell his parents to travel to such and such city to conceive him, nine months of course before his birth. And I imagine that still later in his life he creates the world that contain his own parents, who will later birth him. The Hindus beieve that this is the absolute truth. Christians believe that God forgave everyone, as he has said, he advises to not judge as he has also forgiven everyone, and then God also says to us better to avoid sin coz we'll be judged and punished for our sins -- which, he just finished saying, have been forgiven. The Christians believe that this is the absolute truth. I took a comparative religions course in college, and enjoyed going to the Buddhist temple (they are essentially an atheistic belief system) and a Hindu temple. At the Hindu temple, the monk explained a broad overview of their views, and when I asked his view on atheism, he just responded that all paths return to God. An atheist has to walk his/her path as well, and as long as one follows the basic moral tenets of being a good person, then they're still working for God. I thought it was interesting. Do you believe that Christianity teaches the same thing? Personally, no. With a Hindu, one could be Christian and still be Hindu. With a Christian, it's always said that the only way into Heaven is by acknowledging Jesus and His dying for one's sins. Otherwise, one is going to the Christian Hell. I know a very few Christians who still feel so long as you're good, you have a chance, but it's slim to none, if they're honest about it. I said Christianity, not Christians... One has to acknowledge Jesus in Christianity. So, still no. |
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How is it that after 50 years I still get sucked into these lame-azz discussions? Ho-hum... Cheers...
Hi Ted.
Nice to see you back
Oy, sweetie...
Hope that you're doing well!?! Who's that handsome fella in your pic? haha. My best to both... Doing as well as I can right now...
That's TheCaptain when he came here for my birthday in Nov.
Hope you're going to stick around for a while!
Ha, mebbe... tonight I'm drinkin'... who knows what tomorrow will bring? Still, it's nice to run into old friends... hugs. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sorry to bust your guys bubble..... I am God. Deal with it. THIS is the trick with dating a Christian. They are FREAKS..they feel guilty and dirty the next day. Take them out to a club/bar...get them bombed...have cro-mag neandrethal sex....then they feel bad cause God will spank them when they die if they don't go feel bad about it at church the next day. So...for Catholics and Seventh day Adventist...take em out on Fridays. Baptists you can take out Friday AND Saturday. Sleep off your hangover in church the next day while checking out the other christians who did the same damned thing you did last night. IF they wanna talk religion during non-intercourse moments....bite the bullet and just do it. I mean seriously...ANY partner is gonna have an interest that you wont actually give a damned about...God...Oprah...LifeTime.... In the interest of getting some happy time....pretend like you give a f***. If you ain't willing to.... someone else will hit it. Haha,a bit of sense in a dry moment... But don't forget that they possess a bit of humanity too. Pretending that we give a f*** is what makes us humans seem humane, no? Just keep 'em outta that missionary position-thing... that's a bad rep all around. Thank you Teditis. I found his post quite crude and distasteful. There is nothing wrong with thinking you are god, because I believe we all are. But some gods are insensitive jerks.
If a man (or woman)seriously thinks he/she can "pretend to care" and fool anyone for very long, then he/she is only fooling them self. Of course he could be joking or trying to look like a macho insensitive jerk when deep deep down, he is a nice caring person. Its hard to tell. |
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I thought you were asking for an evaluation of why you might not be having luck dating Christians. I have no problem with atheists or with dating them. I would not date a serious Christian myself. They might try to get me to go to their church.
I think the best thing to do is to just not talk about religion or politics with your date, have a nice meal and some hot sex and be done with it.
I'm more like krupa I guess, I think I'm god. I do believe in myself, so I'm not an atheist.
Well, that works if you want to just go out. But not for semi-serious dating!
I take my dating very serious. As long as it is not leading to a long term institution or contract with the state.
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i have a feeling something may happen to this thread
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Yes......
Who Knows What Tomorrow Will Bring...... |
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Wux,
The following is the scientific method, right? 1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena. 2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena. In physics, the hypothesis often takes the form of a causal mechanism or a mathematical relation. 3. Use of the hypothesis to predict the existence of other phenomena, or to predict quantitatively the results of new observations. 4. Performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments. Well, there is actually a 5th step, which is convincing other scientists you are correct. It's often very difficult, just ask Dr Semmelweis, Alexander Gordon, Oliver Wendell Holmes and Dr. Joseph Goldberger. Or how about Edward Jenner who was ridiculed for his work on vaccinations and studying of the cuckoo...until years later it was accepted as the truth. Or Louis Pasteur whose work was rejected without even being reviewed by many other scientists of his day. It's not the facts that win the day, it's the presentation. Which is why I said that trying to convince someone you are right is more scientific than calling names. |
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So what? I am not only aethiest....I am anti-religion. But personal philosophy is only one aspect of a man/woman. It is one aspect of personality but it is not ALL of who we are. (If all they got is religion....I consider them lesser) But, people need thier faiths...I have my faiths in things I can't control...I bet RK has faith too. Probably what I got..."Faith in me" Don't give up. You will never find what you seek. It walks up quietly behind you and smacks you with a sledge hammer of love. Just be you amongst the herd...it took me three years of just wanting to be around people and Mingling with no real hope. Saturday...I fly to the coast from the middle of the country...to have an actual and real Mingle date with a woman I dig. never has religion popped up. The women you want ARE here....you gotta earn them bro. |
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