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it would not be apart of my justice system no, MY justice system would have found her guilty---and no beatdown would be in order. She would be serving for her crime. I mention a beatdown on what happens to criminals who kill and molest their children and walk away because of a failed justice system, unfortunately thats just they way society works. It wont be me----but it'll be somebody serving justice to Caylee. Guilty of what exactly? There wasn't a cause of death, there wasn't hard evidence it was all a bunch of theroys that really didn't make sense. There's no way she should have been found guilty if Murder 1 with the evidence they had. There wasnt a cause of death aside from the million chloroform searches and duct tape all over the baby girls face, chloroform samples found and a mother chalk full of lies---so does that mean she is still alive??? (dry sarcasm) |
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it would not be apart of my justice system no, MY justice system would have found her guilty---and no beatdown would be in order. She would be serving for her crime. I mention a beatdown on what happens to criminals who kill and molest their children and walk away because of a failed justice system, unfortunately thats just they way society works. It wont be me----but it'll be somebody serving justice to Caylee. so in order for your justice system to have found her guilty i assume you have ideas how you'd change our jury system that in fact found her not guilty. would you share those ideas? |
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Well i would change the way that evidence was allowed to be presented and how it was considered....
Second of all I would not allow fricken accusations that are not related to the case to be brought up in court during a murder trial. Distracting the jury from the the current case is a stupid idea, whether or not she was molested is totally irrelevant to the case and is a waste of time, and only clouds the minds of the the jurors and should not be allowed to be presented during her murder trial. Thirdly I think the accused party should be forced to taking the stand, Instead of hiding in the background let her be cross examined and see where her statements slip up! Defendants should always be interrogated and x examined in front of the jury--- She throws her whole family under the bus and they are forced to testify on ridiculousness while she gets to sit back like a coward and not have to address any of her own faults including ditching her own child and letting her rot away in her own trunk. |
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Casey Anthony's release from an Orlando jail next week has everyone wondering: What's next for the Orlando mother who was acquitted of murdering her 2-year-old daughter? According to letters written by Anthony to another inmate, the 25-year-old has dreamed of becoming pregnant again or adopting because "so many kids and teens are homeless and that's something I want to target." In the hand-written letters, obtained by MyFoxOrlando.com, Anthony writes: "I had a dream not too long ago that I was pregnant. It was like having Cays all over again." "I've thought about adopting, which even sounds weird to me saying it, but there are so many children that deserve to be loved," she wrote to inmate Robyn Adams at the Orlando County Jail. "Let's make a deal? Let's get pregnant together?" The letters were reportedly written between 2008 and 2009 and released some time last year. Anthony also confides that she's interested in writing a "partial memoir" and says she's looking forward to manicures, pedicures and underwear that "fits" when she re-enters society. "I could use a day at Target myself," she wrote. "Just to walk around the store, to be a part of society. I want to go grocery shopping." "If you could change your name to any name, what would it be?" she went on to ask in another letter. "I've been thinking about that a lot lately." In the letters, Casey also identifies Caylee's father as "Erik" -- a subject of widespread speculation during trial as the child's father was never named. It's not clear yet what the future holds when Anthony is released. Threats have been made against her, and online she is being vilified. More than 17,000 people "liked" the "I hate Casey Anthony" page on Facebook, which included comments wishing her the same fate that befell little Caylee. Prosecutors had claimed that Anthony suffocated Caylee with duct tape before dumping her body in a wooded area not far from her Orlando home. Defense attorneys countered that the toddler accidentally drowned in the family's swimming pool. They said that when Anthony panicked, her father, a former police officer, decided to make the death look like a murder. They said he put duct tape on the girl's mouth and then disposed of the body. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/07/casey-anthony-writes-having-more-children-in-jailhouse-letters/#ixzz1RS236CDr |
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it would not be apart of my justice system no, MY justice system would have found her guilty---and no beatdown would be in order. She would be serving for her crime. I mention a beatdown on what happens to criminals who kill and molest their children and walk away because of a failed justice system, unfortunately thats just they way society works. It wont be me----but it'll be somebody serving justice to Caylee. Guilty of what exactly? There wasn't a cause of death, there wasn't hard evidence it was all a bunch of theroys that really didn't make sense. There's no way she should have been found guilty if Murder 1 with the evidence they had. There wasnt a cause of death aside from the million chloroform searches and duct tape all over the baby girls face, chloroform samples found and a mother chalk full of lies---so does that mean she is still alive??? (dry sarcasm) I have searched Chloroform on my computer after watching the trial to see exactly what it does and hows it's used, I guess I am a killer now eh? The duct tape could have been plaed on after death, no way to know for sure. People lie when they are scared or have PTSD. Plain and simple. |
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Well i would change the way that evidence was allowed to be presented and how it was considered.... Second of all I would not allow fricken accusations that are not related to the case to be brought up in court during a murder trial. Distracting the jury from the the current case is a stupid idea, whether or not she was molested is totally irrelevant to the case and is a waste of time, and only clouds the minds of the the jurors and should not be allowed to be presented during her murder trial. Thirdly I think the accused party should be forced to taking the stand, Instead of hiding in the background let her be cross examined and see where her statements slip up! Defendants should always be interrogated and x examined in front of the jury--- She throws her whole family under the bus and they are forced to testify on ridiculousness while she gets to sit back like a coward and not have to address any of her own faults including ditching her own child and letting her rot away in her own trunk. Accusations are all relevent if it makes the person who they are or how they act. Hmmmmmm so you would take away a constitutional right away from someone? Thats real nice. People have the right to remain silent. This statement is clearly by someone who hasn't spent a lot of time in court, someone who just watches it on tv and thinks they know everything. I have testified in court MANY times over the past 10 years, both for the prosecution and defense. I have over 1,000 apprehensions\arrests that have been prosecuted(which not one was ever found not guilty or dismissed, granted most plead out). I've seen first hand how the trial system works and it works well. |
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Well i would change the way that evidence was allowed to be presented and how it was considered.... how would evidence be allowed to be presented and considered under your system? and what's wrong with how evidence is presented and considered now? Second of all I would not allow fricken accusations that are not related to the case to be brought up in court during a murder trial. Distracting the jury from the the current case is a stupid idea, whether or not she was molested is totally irrelevant to the case and is a waste of time, and only clouds the minds of the the jurors and should not be allowed to be presented during her murder trial.
let's say i'm on trial for murder. you'd prevent me from defending myself any way that i choose? Thirdly I think the accused party should be forced to taking the stand, Instead of hiding in the background let her be cross examined and see where her statements slip up! Defendants should always be interrogated and x examined in front of the jury---
so you'd toss out the fifth and fourteenth amendments and miranda? i would no longer have a right to privacy? i would no longer have the right to remain silent? i would have to testify even if my testimony would incriminate me? why not just toss the entire constitution and start over? |
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Well i would change the way that evidence was allowed to be presented and how it was considered.... how would evidence be allowed to be presented and considered under your system? and what's wrong with how evidence is presented and considered now? Second of all I would not allow fricken accusations that are not related to the case to be brought up in court during a murder trial. Distracting the jury from the the current case is a stupid idea, whether or not she was molested is totally irrelevant to the case and is a waste of time, and only clouds the minds of the the jurors and should not be allowed to be presented during her murder trial.
let's say i'm on trial for murder. you'd prevent me from defending myself any way that i choose? Thirdly I think the accused party should be forced to taking the stand, Instead of hiding in the background let her be cross examined and see where her statements slip up! Defendants should always be interrogated and x examined in front of the jury---
so you'd toss out the fifth and fourteenth amendments and miranda? i would no longer have a right to privacy? i would no longer have the right to remain silent? i would have to testify even if my testimony would incriminate me? why not just toss the entire constitution and start over? That's pretty scary! |
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Due to a miscalculation, Casey Anthony will have to spend a few more days in jail.
Anthony was to walk free on July 13, but it was later determined that the correct release date is July 17. Although a judge sentenced her Thursday to one year for each of four counts of lying to investigators, Anthony has already served nearly three years in jail and was credited for good behavior. A jury convicted Anthony on four counts of lying to investigators during the girl's disappearance in 2008. Each of the counts carried a maximum possible sentence of one year in jail. Judge Belvin Perry met with attorneys on both sides to determine exactly how much time she should be credited for. Perry also also said he's imposing a $1,000 fine for each of the four counts. The lies include telling detectives she worked at Universal Studios and claiming she left Caylee with a made-up baby sitter. She also lied to police when she claimed she received a phone call from her missing daughter on July 15, 2008. The lies caused law enforcement to "devote extensive resources" in their search for Caylee, Perry said. The girl's remains were found in December 2008, nearly six months after she was reported missing. "Law enforcement expended a great deal of time, energy and manpower looking for young Caylee Marie Anthony," Perry said. "This search for her went on from July through December." Anthony was found not guilty Tuesday of first-degree murder as well as aggravated manslaughter and child abuse in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. At the time of the child's disappearance in June 2008, Anthony, a single mother, and Caylee were living with Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, in suburban Orlando. No one has come forward as the child's father. Prosecutors contended Anthony, then 22, suffocated Caylee with duct tape because she was interfering with her desire to be with her boyfriend and party with her friends. Defense attorneys countered that the toddler accidentally drowned in the family swimming pool. They said that when Anthony panicked, her father, a former police officer, decided to make the death look like a murder. They said he put duct tape on the girl's mouth and then dumped the body in woods about a quarter-mile away. The defense said Anthony's apparent carefree life hid emotional distress caused by sexual abuse from her father. Her father firmly denied both the coverup and abuse claims. The prosecution called those claims absurd, and said no one makes an accident look like a murder. Anthony stopped staying at the family house after the girl disappeared. She told her mother by phone that she and Caylee were spending time with friends. When Cindy Anthony asked to see Caylee, she says her daughter told her a series of lies: that they were in Jacksonville with a rich boyfriend Anthony concocted; that Caylee was with a baby sitter named Zanny; that Zanny had been in a car crash and they were spending time with her in the hospital. In mid-July 2008, Cindy and George Anthony were contacted by a towing yard that their daughter's car had been impounded for being abandoned and would be junked if not claimed. When George Anthony picked it up, he and the tow yard manager said it had the overwhelming stench of human decomposition. The defense said the smell was caused by a bag of trash that was in the trunk. In one of the biggest and most important fights of the six-week trial, a prosecution scientist said the trunk contained air molecules consistent with a human body having decomposed there -- but the defense questioned his methods and said they were unproven. Jurors declined to talk with reporters immediately after Tuesday's verdict. But juror Jennifer Ford told ABC News in an interview that it was because "we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict." "We were crying and not just the women," Ford said in an interview posted on the network's website Wednesday night. "It was emotional and we weren't ready." Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student, said the case was a troubling one. "I did not say she was innocent," Ford said. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be." The prosecution didn't paint a clear enough picture of what happened to Caylee, Ford argued in a portion of the interview broadcast Wednesday night. "I have no idea what happened to that child," Ford said. Mark Lippman, an attorney for Casey Anthony's parents, told Fox News before the sentencing that he believed Casey will be forced to serve seven months in prison for lying to investigators. George and Cindy Anthony attended the hearing on Thursday but did not speak to the media after the sentence was handed down. The two left the Orlando courtroom promptly after the verdict was read Tuesday, which some legal experts said indicated they were displeased with the outcome. But the couple was not unhappy with the verdict, Lippman said, and left abruptly because a court media liaison had asked them to. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/07/casey-anthony-acquitted-on-murder-charges-faces-sentencing-for-lying-to/#ixzz1RUqWTgHD |
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Well i would change the way that evidence was allowed to be presented and how it was considered.... Second of all I would not allow fricken accusations that are not related to the case to be brought up in court during a murder trial. Distracting the jury from the the current case is a stupid idea, whether or not she was molested is totally irrelevant to the case and is a waste of time, and only clouds the minds of the the jurors and should not be allowed to be presented during her murder trial. Thirdly I think the accused party should be forced to taking the stand, Instead of hiding in the background let her be cross examined and see where her statements slip up! Defendants should always be interrogated and x examined in front of the jury--- She throws her whole family under the bus and they are forced to testify on ridiculousness while she gets to sit back like a coward and not have to address any of her own faults including ditching her own child and letting her rot away in her own trunk. Accusations are all relevent if it makes the person who they are or how they act. Hmmmmmm so you would take away a constitutional right away from someone? Thats real nice. People have the right to remain silent. This statement is clearly by someone who hasn't spent a lot of time in court, someone who just watches it on tv and thinks they know everything. I have testified in court MANY times over the past 10 years, both for the prosecution and defense. I have over 1,000 apprehensions\arrests that have been prosecuted(which not one was ever found not guilty or dismissed, granted most plead out). I've seen first hand how the trial system works and it works well. LP AND JR BOGIE_ So people have the right to remain silent-- JUST excluding everyone else who is not on trial for murder right? like everyone who gets subpoenaed to testify even if they dont feel like. Then why not her dad and mother leave her hanging like she threw them under the bus. The only one who got any favors in this trial was Casey----hows that for fair and just... LP- I come from a household of people in the legal industry in addition have been to court for other reasons as well. In fact I dont know about your town, but here it's part of school to go sit through court cases during school as part of our curriculum (as least it was when i went to High School...) So Yes I have had my fair share of observing the court in live action. JR BOGIE--- When you lie and commit perjury and are caught for it(IN MY SYSTEM) you should forgo your right to remain silent..during the trial. She did not use this right as it was intended she used it cuz she cant keep her story straight. If you abuse the right it should be stripped from you. (FUNNY they have no problem doing this to drivers who get multiple dui's-even after they have 3 tickets and yet NO VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER they still loose their right tor drive) That's not fair.... Evidence that would be presentable in court should only apply to that which is relevant to the current case...Many Kids are molested everyday. a majority never bothered to kill anyone. So whether or not it's true is irrelevant to the case. She certainly wasnt too upset about her troubled childhood when she was out stealing and partying every night and smelling rotten child in her trunk for a month. I didnt hear any cries for help about her home situation then. In fact I dont think ONE PERSON was brought into court that she could use as a witness to testify she had ever confessed these accusations to a friend or coworker which in most cases there will always be a confidant. She can't find one person throughout her life that could or would testisfy to the heart wrenching torment she had suffered at the hands of her father. Give me a break. |
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LP AND JR BOGIE_ So people have the right to remain silent-- JUST excluding everyone else who is not on trial for murder right? like everyone who gets subpoenaed to testify even if they dont feel like. Then why not her dad and mother leave her hanging like she threw them under the bus. The only one who got any favors in this trial was Casey----hows that for fair and just... because she is the only one accused that's why not her. do you not understand your rights under the fourth, fifth, sixth, fourteenth amendments and miranda if you are accused of a crime? if not you'd best not ever represent yourself as a defendant. you'd be torn to shreds before you did a day of jail time. LP-
I come from a household of people in the legal industry in addition have been to court for other reasons as well. In fact I dont know about your town, but here it's part of school to go sit through court cases during school as part of our curriculum (as least it was when i went to High School...) So Yes I have had my fair share of observing the court in live action. don't doubt your experience but you certainly failed to learn much about the rights of the accused and due process of law from the people in your household and time in court. JR BOGIE---
When you lie and commit perjury and are caught for it(IN MY SYSTEM) you should forgo your right to remain silent..during the trial. She did not use this right as it was intended she used it cuz she cant keep her story straight. If you abuse the right it should be stripped from you. (FUNNY they have no problem doing this to drivers who get multiple dui's-even after they have 3 tickets and yet NO VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER they still loose their right tor drive) That's not fair.... she did not lie. she never testified which was her right. her lawyer postulated a theory. nothing more. there's a huge difference from a dui ticket and a dui conviction. when a person is convicted of dui, yes, they lose their license and then some. and they too have the right to remain silent. but dui is a long way from mansluaghter. yes, if someone is killed a manslaughter charge would likely follow but the accused there also has the right to remain silent. how can one lose the right to remain silent because of a lie when she choses to remain silent? you don't get it. casey remained silent in court. there can be no purjury when one remaians silent. Evidence that would be presentable in court should only apply to that which is relevant to the current case...Many Kids are molested everyday. a majority never bothered to kill anyone. So whether or not it's true is irrelevant to the case. She certainly wasnt too upset about her troubled childhood when she was out stealing and partying every night and smelling rotten child in her trunk for a month. I didnt hear any cries for help about her home situation then. In fact I dont think ONE PERSON was brought into court that she could use as a witness to testify she had ever confessed these accusations to a friend or coworker which in most cases there will always be a confidant. She can't find one person throughout her life that could or would testisfy to the heart wrenching torment she had suffered at the hands of her father. Give me a break.
the judge obviously saw evidence that was relevant to the case that you did not see as relevant. how is it not relevant to present evidence that someone else killed the kid? she does not have to call any witnesses. you just fail to get it. SHE WAS THE DEFENDENT and the accused need prove nothing. the burden of proof is on the state. and what you heard or did not hear for a month has no relevance whatsoever. all that matters is what the jury heard. irregardless, you didn't answer my earlier question. for your system to work within the constitution, there would have to be an amendment abolishing the fifth and fourteenth amendmend and miranda would have to be overturned. there might even be a need to abolish the first and fourth amendments as well. is that what you propose??? |
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Not lying during court is one thing, clearly she never took the stand, cause she can not speak without perjury....Im talking about the perjury charges she is facing leading to the original arrest in which she led the police and volunteer search groups on a false runaround based on ALL her false statements on some nanny who never existed---and missing child report when she knew KNEW there was a rotting corpse inside her trunk...
DUI___could lead to vehicular manslaughter---they lost their driving rights even when vehicular manslaughter was not present So Perjury should release her from her right to the right to remain silent in her case where manslaughter WAS present |
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its a shame someone got away with a perfect crime where the evidence was damaged and eroded enough not to give any CLEAR answer, therefore providing automatic reasonable doubt
fortunately, they may pass a law requirint that missing children be reported,,,,so perhaps thats the silver lining in all this next time there will be no excuse for a caretaker not knowing where a child is for over a month.,.,.. |
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Rumor has it, Casey wants to open a Day Care Center.
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Well i would change the way that evidence was allowed to be presented and how it was considered.... Second of all I would not allow fricken accusations that are not related to the case to be brought up in court during a murder trial. Distracting the jury from the the current case is a stupid idea, whether or not she was molested is totally irrelevant to the case and is a waste of time, and only clouds the minds of the the jurors and should not be allowed to be presented during her murder trial. Thirdly I think the accused party should be forced to taking the stand, Instead of hiding in the background let her be cross examined and see where her statements slip up! Defendants should always be interrogated and x examined in front of the jury--- She throws her whole family under the bus and they are forced to testify on ridiculousness while she gets to sit back like a coward and not have to address any of her own faults including ditching her own child and letting her rot away in her own trunk. Accusations are all relevent if it makes the person who they are or how they act. Hmmmmmm so you would take away a constitutional right away from someone? Thats real nice. People have the right to remain silent. This statement is clearly by someone who hasn't spent a lot of time in court, someone who just watches it on tv and thinks they know everything. I have testified in court MANY times over the past 10 years, both for the prosecution and defense. I have over 1,000 apprehensions\arrests that have been prosecuted(which not one was ever found not guilty or dismissed, granted most plead out). I've seen first hand how the trial system works and it works well. LP AND JR BOGIE_ So people have the right to remain silent-- JUST excluding everyone else who is not on trial for murder right? like everyone who gets subpoenaed to testify even if they dont feel like. Then why not her dad and mother leave her hanging like she threw them under the bus. The only one who got any favors in this trial was Casey----hows that for fair and just... LP- I come from a household of people in the legal industry in addition have been to court for other reasons as well. In fact I dont know about your town, but here it's part of school to go sit through court cases during school as part of our curriculum (as least it was when i went to High School...) So Yes I have had my fair share of observing the court in live action. JR BOGIE--- When you lie and commit perjury and are caught for it(IN MY SYSTEM) you should forgo your right to remain silent..during the trial. She did not use this right as it was intended she used it cuz she cant keep her story straight. If you abuse the right it should be stripped from you. (FUNNY they have no problem doing this to drivers who get multiple dui's-even after they have 3 tickets and yet NO VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER they still loose their right tor drive) That's not fair.... Evidence that would be presentable in court should only apply to that which is relevant to the current case...Many Kids are molested everyday. a majority never bothered to kill anyone. So whether or not it's true is irrelevant to the case. She certainly wasnt too upset about her troubled childhood when she was out stealing and partying every night and smelling rotten child in her trunk for a month. I didnt hear any cries for help about her home situation then. In fact I dont think ONE PERSON was brought into court that she could use as a witness to testify she had ever confessed these accusations to a friend or coworker which in most cases there will always be a confidant. She can't find one person throughout her life that could or would testisfy to the heart wrenching torment she had suffered at the hands of her father. Give me a break. You may have ovserved but come talk to me once you've been grilled by the Prosecution AND Defense. |
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Ive been cross examined before----and it was no problem. Lying is not an issue i have--
I tell the truth and I obey the law so it's not an issue with me. |
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its a shame someone got away with a perfect crime where the evidence was damaged and eroded enough not to give any CLEAR answer, therefore providing automatic reasonable doubt fortunately, they may pass a law requirint that missing children be reported,,,,so perhaps thats the silver lining in all this next time there will be no excuse for a caretaker not knowing where a child is for over a month.,.,.. It is a shame. It's a shame so many people can smell a rotting corpse in her trunk too----ICK! What can we do though- Poor Caylee will never have justice- But someone knows the truth and we can only hope that guilty minds will take a toll on themselves and harmony will runs it's course for the innocent life lost. AKA KARMA |
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its a shame someone got away with a perfect crime where the evidence was damaged and eroded enough not to give any CLEAR answer, therefore providing automatic reasonable doubt fortunately, they may pass a law requirint that missing children be reported,,,,so perhaps thats the silver lining in all this next time there will be no excuse for a caretaker not knowing where a child is for over a month.,.,.. It is a shame. It's a shame so many people can smell a rotting corpse in her trunk too----ICK! What can we do though- Poor Caylee will never have justice- But someone knows the truth and we can only hope that guilty minds will take a toll on themselves and harmony will runs it's course for the innocent life lost. AKA KARMA I dont know, noone has come forward to verify her story about being molested and you would think someone would know the truth of that too.. sometimes people are just able to get away clean with things, and noone to witness or verify what they even did,,, |
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Not lying during court is one thing, clearly she never took the stand, cause she can not speak without perjury....Im talking about the perjury charges she is facing leading to the original arrest in which she led the police and volunteer search groups on a false runaround based on ALL her false statements on some nanny who never existed---and missing child report when she knew KNEW there was a rotting corpse inside her trunk... DUI___could lead to vehicular manslaughter---they lost their driving rights even when vehicular manslaughter was not present So Perjury should release her from her right to the right to remain silent in her case where manslaughter WAS present nothing, and i mean NOTHING EVER requires a person under u.s jursdiction to give up their right to remain silent. she never perjured herself. perjury is a lie told while under oath in court. how can one commit perjury if one does not testify in court? she was convicted on four conts of giving police false statements. that is not perjury. |
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Not lying during court is one thing, clearly she never took the stand, cause she can not speak without perjury....Im talking about the perjury charges she is facing leading to the original arrest in which she led the police and volunteer search groups on a false runaround based on ALL her false statements on some nanny who never existed---and missing child report when she knew KNEW there was a rotting corpse inside her trunk... DUI___could lead to vehicular manslaughter---they lost their driving rights even when vehicular manslaughter was not present So Perjury should release her from her right to the right to remain silent in her case where manslaughter WAS present nothing, and i mean NOTHING EVER requires a person under u.s jursdiction to give up their right to remain silent. she never perjured herself. perjury is a lie told while under oath in court. how can one commit perjury if one does not testify in court? she was convicted on four conts of giving police false statements. that is not perjury. You're right, My bad on that one. But still think it should have given up her rights to fifth in court, like all 3 strikers---you got to pay sometime...sometimes you lose your right to mingle with society outside the metal bars. some lose their drivers license some should lose their 5th in court...Just my opinion...nothing more. |
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