I agree - just put a little of my own spin on it. Men will more often be dishonest to obtain sex, but I think most have grown up in a culture that quietly has deemed that particular deception socially acceptable, and I think women have to share some responsibility too if the guy IS honest and they jusr don't listen, then it's the bed she made - walked right into it....

to me- the most salient thing is to remember - no matter what he says - if u want him for the long term don't be too quick to jump in the sack

Cant we just get it on...then go to a bar. Have some drinks. Come back...get it on some more. Fall asleep. Eat breakfast...do it again. Then go our seperate ways until next weekend.


WOOP WOOP!!! Dont hate.

sometimes I think that works & it sounds like fun J

a lot depends what has gone on before and what had lead up to what u r describing, that is my thought anyway

I usually end up with the opposite problem. I want to find a woman that I can be friends with first. In my experience the deeper the friendship becomes the more the woman is afraid that sex will end up ruining the friendship.

I have a question for the women out there. I have asked a few of my close female friends and never seem to get a straight answer. Why is it that women want to be "Best Friends" with a nice guy, then they want to get involved in a "relationship" with a guy that treats them like crap? Then to add insult to injury, so to speak, why do they run back to their " Best Friend" and ***** about the way they were treated?

Am I just a hopeless romantic? Or am I just wasting too much time waiting for "it" to happen naturally?

Would any of you ladies like to help a nice guy figure out how to stay out of the "Friend Zone"?

i agree with that!

Nothing wrong with that.

nothing wrong with that... just one should not end up expecting the other to cook the breakfast and buy the drinks all the time!

i do think communication is key though.. in the beginning and when u are spending time together . after all friends do communicate! and they dont do things to hurt the others feelings... when one cant stick to the agreement whatever it was discussed... then its time to end it

Agree....women need to be treated Nicely and not treated as a sex object...but normally most women I met end up liking more then a FWB and expect u to become serious or propose and I think that Kinda sucks.

or women think ur a pig becoz u only want sex...but if u propose and then have sex its ok...and then u dump them is like I had sex only with my ex.....

I hope I meet just the perfect F>W>B!!! Gonna keep looking till I decide to become serious :)

True...if u wanna be with a guy long term ask him upfonrt...and see if he is willing to wait for u.... and then get hanky and panky once ur sure :)

I know alot of women who like and even prefer a fwb relationship.
I'm not one of them anymore..at the time that sort of thing worked for me, now it doesn't.
It's just another preference thing, no big deal. If the women aren't interested, keep looking for one who is, their out there.

I think it would be ideal to marry your best friend, but then again...who ever acts logically. . .

Chemistry babay...
it's all about chemistry.
We can't control that and why would we want to?!?!
Peopleoids take this whole dating and mating thing WAAAAAY to serious.
...and not all of us want the *** ~ hole guys. Geez, there seems to be a theme in the threads...must be time for another nice guy thread.

nice guy threads... i those guys went extinct years ago???

Very rare but not completely extinct yet.

I guess everyone is different,
i would hate it
I guess i am a jealous person as the thought of sharing just doesnt fit in my life.
And the thought of someone only coming around to sleep with me is yuck.
i want Love, intimacy, committment, a forever man.

I agree

I think to me, anyway, the discernment is whether what mayhem is suggesting is within the bounds of a commitment or not

for me, that is not something I would want to do outside of a monogamous commitment AND forget the clubs....Ima bout jus getting it on

Well sometimes the friendship suffers and the benefits get suckier...

that's not really what I was suggesting sweety. things aren't always that predictable - it takes time, for me anyway, to tell if I want someone for the long term- that interval may or may not include sex

I'm suggesting caution not a program with rules

thank you!

I'd actually be happy with this kind of arrangement right now. During the week gets pretty busy, so unless they're local, I won't see them much anyway. On the weekend, that would be perfect.