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mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/02/10 11:09 PM



How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



i thought we were talking terroism?
they were leaders, they fought in wars..
you do know what terrorism means right?

just in case, here is the meaning:

ter·ror·ism audio (tr-rzm) KEY

NOUN:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.



No we are talking about why people are getting killed for any reason due to what those people who are killing them believe.

I also don't see how a Nazi pulling you out of your house and shooting you in your head is any different then a terrorist cutting a mans head off with a knife.
there isn't dead is dead.. but you said atheist terrorist
i'm still trying to figure out what an atheist terrorist is...

Thomas3474's photo
Thu 09/02/10 11:11 PM


I think it is safe to say Atheist and other than Christian are responsible for the massive body count.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

The worst genocides of the 20th Century

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-98) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1987) 570,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Jonas Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1970-71) 300,000 (Bangladesh)
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Libya, 1934-45; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-99) 100,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79) ?
Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Harold McMillans (Britain, 1952-56, Kenya's Mau-Mau rebellion) 10,000
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) 2,000

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your just listing people that killed other people... show me where there are atheist terrorist...



I am not going to hold your hald and explain to you that Stalin was a Atheist,Kim Il Sung was a Atheist,Pol pot,and the rest of the list.

The bigger picture here is that they were not Christians starting Wars in the name of Christianity.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:13 PM




How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



i thought we were talking terroism?
they were leaders, they fought in wars..
you do know what terrorism means right?

just in case, here is the meaning:

ter·ror·ism audio (tr-rzm) KEY

NOUN:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.



No we are talking about why people are getting killed for any reason due to what those people who are killing them believe.

I also don't see how a Nazi pulling you out of your house and shooting you in your head is any different then a terrorist cutting a mans head off with a knife.
there isn't dead is dead.. but you said atheist terrorist
i'm still trying to figure out what an atheist terrorist is...


Moe your just acting dumb and wasting time.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:15 PM






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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


World war one,World war 2,Vietnam war,Korea war
just a matter on how people see it, i guess.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:15 PM







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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


World war one,World war 2,Vietnam war,Korea war
just a matter on how people see it, i guess.


How do you see it?

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Thu 09/02/10 11:16 PM





How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



i thought we were talking terroism?
they were leaders, they fought in wars..
you do know what terrorism means right?

just in case, here is the meaning:

ter·ror·ism audio (tr-rzm) KEY

NOUN:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.



No we are talking about why people are getting killed for any reason due to what those people who are killing them believe.

I also don't see how a Nazi pulling you out of your house and shooting you in your head is any different then a terrorist cutting a mans head off with a knife.
there isn't dead is dead.. but you said atheist terrorist
i'm still trying to figure out what an atheist terrorist is...


Moe your just acting dumb and wasting time.

christian answer to everything, huh?

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Thu 09/02/10 11:17 PM








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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


World war one,World war 2,Vietnam war,Korea war
just a matter on how people see it, i guess.


How do you see it?
not like you do... i'm not absorbed in religion to cloud my mind

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Thu 09/02/10 11:20 PM





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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


well, thats going to be tricky , because you can always trace some peoples beliefs back to religion,

for instance, I might believe its wrong to lie and be an atheist, but others who are christians might agree,,, so by association if we fought people for lying it could be CLAIMED the fight was a religious one

that being said, I think the CIVIL war had nothing to do with religion

nor did the KOREAN war

or the hundred years war

or WWII


I could go on, but Im sure somewhere in there people can trace some correlation to a religious ideology or belief,,,

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Thu 09/02/10 11:20 PM
Well this is a debate.Are you going to post facts that claim World war one and two were started because of Religious reasons?

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Thu 09/02/10 11:50 PM






Christian terrorism - Definition
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State
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Ethnic
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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


well, thats going to be tricky , because you can always trace some peoples beliefs back to religion,

for instance, I might believe its wrong to lie and be an atheist, but others who are christians might agree,,, so by association if we fought people for lying it could be CLAIMED the fight was a religious one

that being said, I think the CIVIL war had nothing to do with religion

nor did the KOREAN war

or the hundred years war

or WWII


I could go on, but Im sure somewhere in there people can trace some correlation to a religious ideology or belief,,,
thats kind of my point.. it is pointless to argue about this

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Fri 09/03/10 02:49 AM


Rod Coronado

A native american operative of ELF and ALF who was convicted on several acts of terrorism one was even for setting of an IED here in the US.

The Earth Liberation Front (ELF), also known as "Elves" or "The Elves",[1] is the collective name for autonomous individuals or covert cells who, according to the ELF Press Office, use "economic sabotage and guerrilla warfare to stop the exploitation and destruction of the environment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front

The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is an international, underground leaderless resistance that engages in illegal direct action in pursuit of animal liberation. Activists see themselves as a modern-day Underground Railroad, removing animals from laboratories and farms, destroying facilities, arranging safe houses and veterinary care, and operating sanctuaries where the animals live out the rest of their lives.

Active in over 40 countries, ALF cells operate clandestinely, consisting of small groups of friends and sometimes just one person, which makes the movement difficult for the authorities to monitor. Robin Webb of the British Animal Liberation Press Office has said: "That is why the ALF cannot be smashed, it cannot be effectively infiltrated, it cannot be stopped. You, each and every one of you: you are the ALF."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front


They aren't atheist terrorists. They don't do terrorism in the name of their atheism.slaphead

Sorry not working.


They don't do it in ANY form of religion.

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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


World War 1, Koprean War, Vietnam War, the first Gulf War.

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Fri 09/03/10 07:32 AM
So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?

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Fri 09/03/10 07:37 AM

So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?


wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......

rofl


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Fri 09/03/10 07:40 AM


So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?


wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......

rofl


The Muslims are the enemy were have you been?

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Fri 09/03/10 07:45 AM



So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?


wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......

rofl


The Muslims are the enemy were have you been?


Extremist religous nut jobs are the enemy..today its islam, once upon a time it was the Catholics (Timothy McVeigh), tomorrow it could be anyone else...

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Fri 09/03/10 07:47 AM




So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?


wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......

rofl


The Muslims are the enemy were have you been?


Extremist religous nut jobs are the enemy..today its islam, once upon a time it was the Catholics (Timothy McVeigh), tomorrow it could be anyone else...
True..But Tim Mcveigh was not representing our nation

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Fri 09/03/10 07:55 AM





So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?


wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......

rofl


The Muslims are the enemy were have you been?


Extremist religous nut jobs are the enemy..today its islam, once upon a time it was the Catholics (Timothy McVeigh), tomorrow it could be anyone else...
True..But Tim Mcveigh was not representing our nation


my dear young man..McVeigh was the epitimy of the militant anti-government movement. These guys didnt just disapear when they executed McVeigh.. (Ruby Ridge, Wacko, et al..you should google this and read up on it and this movement..)there are today in America terrorist cells that are American Christians who are very active and possibly living right in your own back yard...to be honest, after reading numerous posts of yours, I wouldnt be surprised if you joined up with them...you seem like prime recruitment material.

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Fri 09/03/10 07:59 AM
Edited by d24 on Fri 09/03/10 08:26 AM






So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?


wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......

rofl


The Muslims are the enemy were have you been?


Extremist religous nut jobs are the enemy..today its islam, once upon a time it was the Catholics (Timothy McVeigh), tomorrow it could be anyone else...
True..But Tim Mcveigh was not representing our nation


my dear young man..McVeigh was the epitimy of the militant anti-government movement. These guys didnt just disapear when they executed McVeigh.. (Ruby Ridge, Wacko, et al..you should google this and read up on it and this movement..)there are today in America terrorist cells that are American Christians who are very active and possibly living right in your own back yard...to be honest, after reading numerous posts of yours, I wouldnt be surprised if you joined up with them...you seem like prime recruitment material.
How enlighting! I was worried about this country. But I care for priority number one. Take a guess You would have the U.S Army unarmed and have the muslims with dildos and F&N 5.7s wouldnt you?

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Fri 09/03/10 08:17 AM


So then we should discriminate against Muslims and not Allow them to join the military.
The military spent a lot of money on training this person, should he have to pay it back considering he is not fulfilling his eng of the contract he signed?

wow..so you guys finally found someone besides homosexuals to descriminate against in the military...Muslims......


After 'Major Hasan' and his Ft Hood massacre, it's not 'discrimination' - it's self-defense.

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