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Christian terrorism - Definition
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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.


Not.

You can't substantiate any of this.slaphead

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Thu 09/02/10 10:03 PM




Christian terrorism - Definition
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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



:thumbsup:


Prove an Atheist terrorist.

There aren't any.


Really? Look up members of ALF and ELF. Hell the guy yesterday at the Discovery Building was an athiest!

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Thu 09/02/10 10:04 PM





Christian terrorism - Definition
Terrorism
General
Definition
Conventions
Counterterrorism
Criticisms
Lists
Groups
Incidents
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Nationalist
Religious
Left-wing
Right-wing
State
Islamist
Ethnic
Narcoterrorism
Domestic
Anarchist
Political
Eco-terrorism
Christian
Tactics
Hijacking
Assassination
Car bombing
Suicide bombing
Kidnapping
Bioterrorism
Nuclear terrorism
Cyber-terrorism
Internet
Configurations
Fronts
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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



:thumbsup:


Prove an Atheist terrorist.

There aren't any.


Really? Look up members of ALF and ELF. Hell the guy yesterday at the Discovery Building was an athiest!


Not.

prove it.

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Thu 09/02/10 10:05 PM






Christian terrorism - Definition
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Definition
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Counterterrorism
Criticisms
Lists
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Nationalist
Religious
Left-wing
Right-wing
State
Islamist
Ethnic
Narcoterrorism
Domestic
Anarchist
Political
Eco-terrorism
Christian
Tactics
Hijacking
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Car bombing
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Bioterrorism
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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



:thumbsup:


Prove an Atheist terrorist.

There aren't any.


Really? Look up members of ALF and ELF. Hell the guy yesterday at the Discovery Building was an athiest!


Not.

prove it.


Not? Do you even know what ALF and ELF are? They are not religious based in anyway and are BOTH considered terrorist orginizations.

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Thu 09/02/10 10:06 PM
Here is some information on one of your so called Christian terrorist groups.Funny how I didn't see a single word metioned about Jesus,or the bible or even Christianity for that matter.

http://www.answers.com/topic/irish-republican-army


IRA (Irish Republican Army). The IRA emerged out of the Irish Volunteer organization established in 1913 to exert pressure on the British government to grant Home Rule for Ireland. After 1914 it was taken over by an older revolutionary nationalist organization, the Irish Republican Brotherhood (IRB), dedicated to the establishment of a unitary Irish republic by force of arms. In the 1916 Easter Rising the rebel forces were declared to be the Army of the Irish Republic, but the term IRA did not come into use until after the Declaration of Independence in 1919. Officially the organization remained Ogláich na hÉireann (Irish Volunteers). Under the leadership of Michael Collins, Richard Mulcahy, and Harry Boland, the traditional IRB policy of insurrection was replaced by a guerrilla strategy. The keystone of the organization was the local company or battalion; brigades (one to three per county) were shadowier formations, and the divisions introduced in 1921 existed mainly on paper. Local energy in pursuit of weapons, skill in the use of explosives, and determination to engage the British police and military forces, were indispensable. Despite chivvying from Headquarters in Dublin, many if not most areas of Ireland remained quiescent—usually pleading shortage of arms and ammunition—throughout the fighting that lasted from the ambush at Soloheadbeg in January 1919 to the Truce in July 1921. The most aggressive units were in the south-west (Cork, Kerry, Tipperary, Limerick, Clare) and in Dublin itself.

The IRA campaign impelled the government to negotiate but could not compel it to concede Irish independence. When the Anglo-Irish Treaty was signed, accepting partition and non-republican status for the Irish Free State, a number of local IRA commanders believed that they could still fight on to achieve a unitary republic. The IRA split over the issue, and civil war followed. The IRA Council emerged as the ultimate republican authority.

Defeat in the civil war reduced the IRA to sporadic attempts to restart its campaign in the 1930s and 1950s. The eruption of the conflict in Northern Ireland in 1969 caught it unprepared, and in 1971 a breakaway group—the Provisional IRA (PIRA) —returned to the traditional policy of force. In Belfast and Derry, rural-style guerrilla operations were difficult and the PIRA devoted much of its energy to urban bombing. Its old territorial organization was partly replaced with a cellular structure. After a campaign lasting over 25 years, it reversed its longstanding repudiation of politics, declaring a ‘cessation of operations’ to allow its political wing Sinn Fein, under the leadership of Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams, to participate in constitutional negotiations. At the time of writing the future of the peace process seems uncertain, with the issue of the ‘decommissioning’ of IRA weapons and explosives a stumbling block in negotiations. The process has emphasized the IRA's insistence that it is indeed an army whose campaign has been legitimate, and whose premature relinquishing of weapons would smack of surrender.

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Thu 09/02/10 10:09 PM







Christian terrorism - Definition
Terrorism
General
Definition
Conventions
Counterterrorism
Criticisms
Lists
Groups
Incidents
Types
Nationalist
Religious
Left-wing
Right-wing
State
Islamist
Ethnic
Narcoterrorism
Domestic
Anarchist
Political
Eco-terrorism
Christian
Tactics
Hijacking
Assassination
Car bombing
Suicide bombing
Kidnapping
Bioterrorism
Nuclear terrorism
Cyber-terrorism
Internet
Configurations
Fronts
Independent actors
General

Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



:thumbsup:


Prove an Atheist terrorist.

There aren't any.


Really? Look up members of ALF and ELF. Hell the guy yesterday at the Discovery Building was an athiest!


Not.

prove it.


Not? Do you even know what ALF and ELF are? They are not religious based in anyway and are BOTH considered terrorist orginizations.


Prove it.

I am tired of proving everyone wrong. Prove they are atheist terrorists and prove that the guy the other day is an atheist terrorist.

Prove it.

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Thu 09/02/10 10:10 PM

Here is some information on one of your so called Christian terrorist groups.Funny how I didn't see a single word metioned about Jesus,or the bible or even Christianity for that matter.

http://www.answers.com/topic/irish-republican-army


IRA (Irish Republican Army). The IRA emerged out of the Irish Volunteer organization established in 1913 to exert pressure on the British government to grant Home Rule for Ireland. After 1914 it was taken over by an older revolutionary nationalist organization, the Irish Republican Brotherhood (IRB), dedicated to the establishment of a unitary Irish republic by force of arms. In the 1916 Easter Rising the rebel forces were declared to be the Army of the Irish Republic, but the term IRA did not come into use until after the Declaration of Independence in 1919. Officially the organization remained Ogláich na hÉireann (Irish Volunteers). Under the leadership of Michael Collins, Richard Mulcahy, and Harry Boland, the traditional IRB policy of insurrection was replaced by a guerrilla strategy. The keystone of the organization was the local company or battalion; brigades (one to three per county) were shadowier formations, and the divisions introduced in 1921 existed mainly on paper. Local energy in pursuit of weapons, skill in the use of explosives, and determination to engage the British police and military forces, were indispensable. Despite chivvying from Headquarters in Dublin, many if not most areas of Ireland remained quiescent—usually pleading shortage of arms and ammunition—throughout the fighting that lasted from the ambush at Soloheadbeg in January 1919 to the Truce in July 1921. The most aggressive units were in the south-west (Cork, Kerry, Tipperary, Limerick, Clare) and in Dublin itself.

The IRA campaign impelled the government to negotiate but could not compel it to concede Irish independence. When the Anglo-Irish Treaty was signed, accepting partition and non-republican status for the Irish Free State, a number of local IRA commanders believed that they could still fight on to achieve a unitary republic. The IRA split over the issue, and civil war followed. The IRA Council emerged as the ultimate republican authority.

Defeat in the civil war reduced the IRA to sporadic attempts to restart its campaign in the 1930s and 1950s. The eruption of the conflict in Northern Ireland in 1969 caught it unprepared, and in 1971 a breakaway group—the Provisional IRA (PIRA) —returned to the traditional policy of force. In Belfast and Derry, rural-style guerrilla operations were difficult and the PIRA devoted much of its energy to urban bombing. Its old territorial organization was partly replaced with a cellular structure. After a campaign lasting over 25 years, it reversed its longstanding repudiation of politics, declaring a ‘cessation of operations’ to allow its political wing Sinn Fein, under the leadership of Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams, to participate in constitutional negotiations. At the time of writing the future of the peace process seems uncertain, with the issue of the ‘decommissioning’ of IRA weapons and explosives a stumbling block in negotiations. The process has emphasized the IRA's insistence that it is indeed an army whose campaign has been legitimate, and whose premature relinquishing of weapons would smack of surrender.


Funny how they are Catholics, is that Christian?:thumbsup:

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Thu 09/02/10 10:20 PM
Rod Coronado

A native american operative of ELF and ALF who was convicted on several acts of terrorism one was even for setting of an IED here in the US.

The Earth Liberation Front (ELF), also known as "Elves" or "The Elves",[1] is the collective name for autonomous individuals or covert cells who, according to the ELF Press Office, use "economic sabotage and guerrilla warfare to stop the exploitation and destruction of the environment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front

The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is an international, underground leaderless resistance that engages in illegal direct action in pursuit of animal liberation. Activists see themselves as a modern-day Underground Railroad, removing animals from laboratories and farms, destroying facilities, arranging safe houses and veterinary care, and operating sanctuaries where the animals live out the rest of their lives.

Active in over 40 countries, ALF cells operate clandestinely, consisting of small groups of friends and sometimes just one person, which makes the movement difficult for the authorities to monitor. Robin Webb of the British Animal Liberation Press Office has said: "That is why the ALF cannot be smashed, it cannot be effectively infiltrated, it cannot be stopped. You, each and every one of you: you are the ALF."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front

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Thu 09/02/10 10:23 PM

Rod Coronado

A native american operative of ELF and ALF who was convicted on several acts of terrorism one was even for setting of an IED here in the US.

The Earth Liberation Front (ELF), also known as "Elves" or "The Elves",[1] is the collective name for autonomous individuals or covert cells who, according to the ELF Press Office, use "economic sabotage and guerrilla warfare to stop the exploitation and destruction of the environment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front

The Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is an international, underground leaderless resistance that engages in illegal direct action in pursuit of animal liberation. Activists see themselves as a modern-day Underground Railroad, removing animals from laboratories and farms, destroying facilities, arranging safe houses and veterinary care, and operating sanctuaries where the animals live out the rest of their lives.

Active in over 40 countries, ALF cells operate clandestinely, consisting of small groups of friends and sometimes just one person, which makes the movement difficult for the authorities to monitor. Robin Webb of the British Animal Liberation Press Office has said: "That is why the ALF cannot be smashed, it cannot be effectively infiltrated, it cannot be stopped. You, each and every one of you: you are the ALF."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front


They aren't atheist terrorists. They don't do terrorism in the name of their atheism.slaphead

Sorry not working.

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Thu 09/02/10 10:43 PM
How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/02/10 10:48 PM

How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



Nice copy and paste from a
Christian site, I saw it myself.slaphead

Hitler was raised Christian so you have to take him off the list.

They are only terrorists if Bush was one too and every other war president we had.

Leaders in war are terrorists by my estimation but I don't think they are officially considered terrorists.

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Thu 09/02/10 10:53 PM


How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



Nice copy and paste from a
Christian site, I saw it myself.slaphead

Hitler was raised Christian so you have to take him off the list.

They are only terrorists if Bush was one too and every other war president we had.

Leaders in war are terrorists by my estimation but I don't think they are officially considered terrorists.



So you are telling me after Hitler blamed the Jews for all of Germanys problems,ordered all Jewish books burned,ordered all Jewish stores closed,and killed the Jews by the millions.Hitler is going to go to a Christian church and bow down and pray to the King of the Jews Jesus christ?Hitler is also going to listen to some pastor reading bible verses from the Old testament written by Jews for Jews?


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Thu 09/02/10 10:55 PM



How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



Nice copy and paste from a
Christian site, I saw it myself.slaphead

Hitler was raised Christian so you have to take him off the list.

They are only terrorists if Bush was one too and every other war president we had.

Leaders in war are terrorists by my estimation but I don't think they are officially considered terrorists.



So you are telling me after Hitler blamed the Jews for all of Germanys problems,ordered all Jewish books burned,ordered all Jewish stores closed,and killed the Jews by the millions.Hitler is going to go to a Christian church and bow down and pray to the King of the Jews Jesus christ?Hitler is also going to listen to some pastor reading bible verses from the Old testament written by Jews for Jews?




He was raised Christian, he has to come off the list of atheists, he wasn't an atheist.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:00 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 09/02/10 11:01 PM


Here is some information on one of your so called Christian terrorist groups.Funny how I didn't see a single word metioned about Jesus,or the bible or even Christianity for that matter.

http://www.answers.com/topic/irish-republican-army


IRA (Irish Republican Army). The IRA emerged out of the Irish Volunteer organization established in 1913 to exert pressure on the British government to grant Home Rule for Ireland. After 1914 it was taken over by an older revolutionary nationalist organization, the Irish Republican Brotherhood (IRB), dedicated to the establishment of a unitary Irish republic by force of arms. In the 1916 Easter Rising the rebel forces were declared to be the Army of the Irish Republic, but the term IRA did not come into use until after the Declaration of Independence in 1919. Officially the organization remained Ogláich na hÉireann (Irish Volunteers). Under the leadership of Michael Collins, Richard Mulcahy, and Harry Boland, the traditional IRB policy of insurrection was replaced by a guerrilla strategy. The keystone of the organization was the local company or battalion; brigades (one to three per county) were shadowier formations, and the divisions introduced in 1921 existed mainly on paper. Local energy in pursuit of weapons, skill in the use of explosives, and determination to engage the British police and military forces, were indispensable. Despite chivvying from Headquarters in Dublin, many if not most areas of Ireland remained quiescent—usually pleading shortage of arms and ammunition—throughout the fighting that lasted from the ambush at Soloheadbeg in January 1919 to the Truce in July 1921. The most aggressive units were in the south-west (Cork, Kerry, Tipperary, Limerick, Clare) and in Dublin itself.

The IRA campaign impelled the government to negotiate but could not compel it to concede Irish independence. When the Anglo-Irish Treaty was signed, accepting partition and non-republican status for the Irish Free State, a number of local IRA commanders believed that they could still fight on to achieve a unitary republic. The IRA split over the issue, and civil war followed. The IRA Council emerged as the ultimate republican authority.

Defeat in the civil war reduced the IRA to sporadic attempts to restart its campaign in the 1930s and 1950s. The eruption of the conflict in Northern Ireland in 1969 caught it unprepared, and in 1971 a breakaway group—the Provisional IRA (PIRA) —returned to the traditional policy of force. In Belfast and Derry, rural-style guerrilla operations were difficult and the PIRA devoted much of its energy to urban bombing. Its old territorial organization was partly replaced with a cellular structure. After a campaign lasting over 25 years, it reversed its longstanding repudiation of politics, declaring a ‘cessation of operations’ to allow its political wing Sinn Fein, under the leadership of Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams, to participate in constitutional negotiations. At the time of writing the future of the peace process seems uncertain, with the issue of the ‘decommissioning’ of IRA weapons and explosives a stumbling block in negotiations. The process has emphasized the IRA's insistence that it is indeed an army whose campaign has been legitimate, and whose premature relinquishing of weapons would smack of surrender.


Funny how they are Catholics, is that Christian?:thumbsup:




lolol,,,ok, thats funny

there is a definite anti catholic sentiment that the IRA fights against,,,since the english protestants took over the irish catholics,,,

I doubt many get the connection, I only know because I Was married to a brit and lived in brittain for a bit,so I got THEIR perspectives(british) firsthand

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Thu 09/02/10 11:02 PM

How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



i thought we were talking terroism?
they were leaders, they fought in wars..
you do know what terrorism means right?

just in case, here is the meaning:

ter·ror·ism audio (tr-rzm) KEY

NOUN:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:03 PM
I think it is safe to say Atheist and other than Christian are responsible for the massive body count.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

The worst genocides of the 20th Century

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-98) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1987) 570,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Jonas Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1970-71) 300,000 (Bangladesh)
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Libya, 1934-45; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-99) 100,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79) ?
Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Harold McMillans (Britain, 1952-56, Kenya's Mau-Mau rebellion) 10,000
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) 2,000

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Thu 09/02/10 11:05 PM




Christian terrorism - Definition
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Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1

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Thu 09/02/10 11:06 PM


How about that for a start?


1. Adolf Hitler – around 11 million

2. Joseph Stalin – anywhere from 20 to 100 million

3. Chairman Mao Zedong – 50 to 70 million

4. Pol Pot – around 1 million



i thought we were talking terroism?
they were leaders, they fought in wars..
you do know what terrorism means right?

just in case, here is the meaning:

ter·ror·ism audio (tr-rzm) KEY

NOUN:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.



No we are talking about why people are getting killed for any reason due to what those people who are killing them believe.

I also don't see how a Nazi pulling you out of your house and shooting you in your head is any different then a terrorist cutting a mans head off with a knife.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:07 PM

I think it is safe to say Atheist and other than Christian are responsible for the massive body count.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

The worst genocides of the 20th Century

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) 8,000,000
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) 800,000
Suharto (East Timor, West Papua, Communists, 1966-98) 800,000
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1987) 570,000
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) 500,000? (Chinese civilians)
Jonas Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) 400,000
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) 400,000
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) 300,000
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1970-71) 300,000 (Bangladesh)
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Libya, 1934-45; Yugoslavia, WWII) 300,000
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) ?
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) 220,000
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) 200,000
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) 150,000
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-99) 100,000
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) 100,000
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79) ?
Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) 70,000 (Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians)
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) 70,000
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) 60,000
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) 40,000
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) 30,000 (popular uprising)
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 (dissidents executed)
Francisco Franco (Spain) 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war)
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) 30,000
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) 30,000
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) 25,000
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) 20,000
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) 20,000
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) 13,000
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) 10,000 (war in Algeria)
Harold McMillans (Britain, 1952-56, Kenya's Mau-Mau rebellion) 10,000
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) 6,000
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) 3,500
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) 3,000
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) 2,000

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your just listing people that killed other people... show me where there are atheist terrorist...

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Thu 09/02/10 11:08 PM





Christian terrorism - Definition
Terrorism
General
Definition
Conventions
Counterterrorism
Criticisms
Lists
Groups
Incidents
Types
Nationalist
Religious
Left-wing
Right-wing
State
Islamist
Ethnic
Narcoterrorism
Domestic
Anarchist
Political
Eco-terrorism
Christian
Tactics
Hijacking
Assassination
Car bombing
Suicide bombing
Kidnapping
Bioterrorism
Nuclear terrorism
Cyber-terrorism
Internet
Configurations
Fronts
Independent actors
General

Acts of Christian terrorism are terrorist acts carried out by self-professed Christian groups and individuals. Examples include the abortion clinic bombing by Eric Robert Rudolph, said to be a member of the extremist Christian Identity movement and murder of physicians who provide abortions, such as James Charles Kopp's shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian.

Christian terrorism differs significantly from Islamic terrorism and other forms of religious terrorism both in organization and popular appeal within the respective religious communities. Political and economic differences between countries with large Christian populations and those with large Islamic populations may explain the different faces of religious terrorism worldwide.

As with most types of religious terrorism, mainstream believers typically consider acts by "Christian terrorists" to be egregious violations of Christian ethics. The violent Christian Identity movement, for instance, is regarded as a highly un-Christian organization by non-members. Modern Christian leaders regularly condemn all acts of terrorism, including those perpetuated by self-professed Christian terrorists. Critics observe that this is a marked change from the often-bloody history of Christianity, which is laden with violent Crusades, inquisitions, and witchhunts.
Past and present terrorism

Because the definition of terrorism is controversial, any list of acts of Christian terrorism will necessarily be controversial. Some point to the Crusades as the first example of large-scale Christian terrorist acts, while others argue that they were military campaigns. Although their official primary function was to (re)capture the "Holy Land" from various Muslim princes, it is generally recognized that they had several secondary functions including spreading Christianity, in a form of violent missionary policy. Some argue that because the conversion of "unbelievers" was an important motivator behind the Crusades, the Crusades were religiously motivated terrorism.

Today, groups that commit acts that can be called Christian terrorism are often not exclusively motivated by their beliefs about Christianity. Often, their activites are rooted in pre-existing mutual hatred, such as the case is with the conflict in Northern Ireland, which has roots traceable as far back as medieval England. While some of the Christian terrorist groups active today may be motivated by the prospect of converting subjects to join their faith, others have territorial/political motives for fighting. Still others have more in common with Nazi ideology than with religious ideology, and work primarily with racist ideals, such as white supremacy. The Christian Identity movement is an example.

Some critics of the 2003 Invasion in Iraq claim that the United States, as a demographically Christian nation, is engaged in acts of state terrorism with a Christian bent. Reports of violence against non-combattants (which are often hotly disputed) are sometimes cited as evidence of this claim.

In the United States, the most frequent examples of Christian terrorism include the bombing of abortion clinics and the murder of abortion providers by (ocasionally self-professed Christian) anti-abortion extremists.




This is nothing but a bunch of nothing about nothing.

You know why there is and never will be Christian terrorist groups in this world?Because anything these people do taking innocent lives is not backed up in the bible,supported by the bible,endorced by the bible,or justified in the bible.The bible specifically commands us "not to kill".

Even if this fluff you posted had some value to it I could count on one had your supposed Christian terrorist.

These people are no more of a danger then anyone else with mental problems.


If you are going to die by someone in this world due to terrorism it will either be by a Muslim or a Atheist.



where you getting atheist at? all terrorist are religious based...



Wars start with acts of terrorism.I will gladly supply you with a body count of Wars started by atheist if you like.

I also find it hard to believe you will find terrorism in Christianity,Hinduism,and Buddhism,which make up some of the biggest religions in the world.
name one war that didn't have anything to do with religion...just 1


World war one,World war 2,Vietnam war,Korea war

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