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Topic: Construction Workers: "No Mosque!"
msharmony's photo
Fri 08/27/10 09:12 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 08/27/10 09:16 AM



The Japanese are our friends now. Several of their sailors and pilots lost their lives in their heroic attack on Pearl Harbor! Their bodies were never recovered. Perhaps we should erect a proud memorial to their loss of life in the water adjacent to the Battleship Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor.


who is building a memorial, besides americans,,,,its a community center,,,


It is an Islamic Center and Mosque. Americans are not funding it
see Peccy's post: http://www.mingle2.com/topic/show/282694

And whether the builders and supporters see it as a memorial or
not, most Americans see it as a kind of memorial and this is at
the heart of the issue.

It has become an "in your face" type of affront for both sides.
The issue is a lightning rod for religious and social friction.
It is no mystery why people are offended. People do not wish to
see a multistory Islamic Center built adjacent to the site of the
worst Islamic terrorist massacre in the world.

This is not primarily bigotry as has been claimed by some although
it is fuel for some bigots. No one is blaming Muslims in general
or trying to punish Muslims in general. But it is a mass grave and
the perpetrators did it in the name of Islam so it is s sensitive
location now where most Americans do not want to see a large Islamic
complex erected next to the ashes of thousands killed in the name
of Islam. This is not puzzling.





that link gives no evidence of who will fund the center and its highly OPINIONIONATED piece from Fox to boot,,,,

s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/27/10 01:33 PM




The Japanese are our friends now. Several of their sailors and pilots lost their lives in their heroic attack on Pearl Harbor! Their bodies were never recovered. Perhaps we should erect a proud memorial to their loss of life in the water adjacent to the Battleship Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor.


who is building a memorial, besides americans,,,,its a community center,,,


It is an Islamic Center and Mosque. Americans are not funding it
see Peccy's post: http://www.mingle2.com/topic/show/282694

And whether the builders and supporters see it as a memorial or
not, most Americans see it as a kind of memorial and this is at
the heart of the issue.

It has become an "in your face" type of affront for both sides.
The issue is a lightning rod for religious and social friction.
It is no mystery why people are offended. People do not wish to
see a multistory Islamic Center built adjacent to the site of the
worst Islamic terrorist massacre in the world.

This is not primarily bigotry as has been claimed by some although
it is fuel for some bigots. No one is blaming Muslims in general
or trying to punish Muslims in general. But it is a mass grave and
the perpetrators did it in the name of Islam so it is s sensitive
location now where most Americans do not want to see a large Islamic
complex erected next to the ashes of thousands killed in the name
of Islam. This is not puzzling.





that link gives no evidence of who will fund the center and its highly OPINIONIONATED piece from Fox to boot,,,,


Well I don't particularly endorse the article but it does point
out that there is a kind of crazy money trail behind the building
purchase...Just trying to point out that it is not clear where
the money is coming from.

no photo
Fri 08/27/10 01:36 PM
See ... ? If that had come from 'politifact', it would have been accepted without question ... just sayin' ...

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/27/10 02:08 PM
Oh not Faux News?!!

Anyway the workers who don't like it should go find work that they like. Since hatemongering isn't a good quality for a contruction worker anyway.

Holding all Muslims responsible for 9/11 is the same as calling them all terrorists. Hatemonering.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/27/10 02:20 PM

Oh not Faux News?!!

Anyway the workers who don't like it should go find work that they like. Since hatemongering isn't a good quality for a contruction worker anyway.

Holding all Muslims responsible for 9/11 is the same as calling them all terrorists. Hatemonering.

they said they didn't want to build it because it is in bad taste, not because they hate muslims...

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/27/10 02:34 PM

See ... ? If that had come from 'politifact', it would have been accepted without question ... just sayin' ...




or if fox news had won a pullitzer in journalism,,,

or werent such TOTAL hypocrites who are themselves largely supported and funded by 'questionable' sources

s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/27/10 03:51 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 08/27/10 03:52 PM


Oh not Faux News?!!

Anyway the workers who don't like it should go find work that they like. Since hatemongering isn't a good quality for a contruction worker anyway.

Holding all Muslims responsible for 9/11 is the same as calling them all terrorists. Hatemonering.

they said they didn't want to build it because it is in bad taste, not because they hate muslims...


Nobody is suggesting anyone is holding all Muslims responsible for 9/11 except Dragon.

laugh

willing2's photo
Fri 08/27/10 05:00 PM

An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America

by Mohamed Akram
May 19, 1991

View the full document

Summary:

This May 1991 memo was written by Mohamed Akram, a.k.a. Mohamed Adlouni, for the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the introductory letter, Akram referenced a "long-term plan…approved and adopted" by the Shura Council in 1987 and proposed this memo as a supplement to that plan and requested that the memo be added to the agenda for an upcoming Council meeting. Appended to the document is a list of all Muslim Brotherhood organizations in North America as of 1991.

Notable quotes:

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Enablement of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims' causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims' efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic state, wherever it is.
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In order for Islam and its Movement to become "a part of the homeland" in which it lives, "stable" in its land, "rooted" in the spirits and minds of its people, "enabled" in the live [sic] of its society and has firmly-established "organizations" on which the Islamic structure is built and with which the testimony of civilization is achieved, the Movement must plan and struggle to obtain "the keys" and the tools of this process in carry [sic] out this grand mission as a "Civilization Jihadist" responsibility which lies on the shoulders of Muslims and – on top of them – the Muslim Brotherhood in this country.

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The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal.



Read more at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/20

Where is the funding coming from?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/27/10 05:42 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 08/27/10 05:43 PM


Oh not Faux News?!!

Anyway the workers who don't like it should go find work that they like. Since hatemongering isn't a good quality for a contruction worker anyway.

Holding all Muslims responsible for 9/11 is the same as calling them all terrorists. Hatemonering.

they said they didn't want to build it because it is in bad taste, not because they hate muslims...


What is in bad taste? Muslims have just as much right to build a church there are Christians do since all Muslims are not terrorists.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 08/27/10 05:44 PM



Oh not Faux News?!!

Anyway the workers who don't like it should go find work that they like. Since hatemongering isn't a good quality for a contruction worker anyway.

Holding all Muslims responsible for 9/11 is the same as calling them all terrorists. Hatemonering.

they said they didn't want to build it because it is in bad taste, not because they hate muslims...


What is in bad taste? Muslims have just as much right to build a church there are Christians do since all Muslims are not terrorists.


Nobody says they don't have the right to do it.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/27/10 05:47 PM
It is cool to build any kind of church two blocks from Ground Zero then.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 08/27/10 07:31 PM

It is cool to build any kind of church two blocks from Ground Zero then.

then why are they stopping the orthodox church from being rebuilt right across the street?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/27/10 07:33 PM


It is cool to build any kind of church two blocks from Ground Zero then.

then why are they stopping the orthodox church from being rebuilt right across the street?


Not because it is orthodox I am sure.

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