Topic: Construction Workers: "No Mosque!"
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Fri 08/20/10 07:52 PM
Expect this all the time and you're never disappointed ...

eklectek's photo
Fri 08/20/10 07:56 PM
lol...guess so eh?

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Fri 08/20/10 07:57 PM



what makes two blocks away from where people died 'sacred'?


If you can't understand these emotions, it's just a waste of time to explain ANYthing further ...



I understand it completely,, its called EGO

'my dead are more significant than your dead' attitudes which keep people divided AND offended



Wow I can't believe I just heard that. slaphead

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Fri 08/20/10 07:58 PM




what makes two blocks away from where people died 'sacred'?


If you can't understand these emotions, it's just a waste of time to explain ANYthing further ...



I understand it completely,, its called EGO

'my dead are more significant than your dead' attitudes which keep people divided AND offended



Wow I can't believe I just heard that. slaphead
i know!!! i didnt even dignify it.......can't without using all the slang in my vocab lol

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Fri 08/20/10 07:59 PM





Umm ... no. There is NO 'fact-based information' in those responses ... it's all emotion.
EXACTLY!!! you are preaching peace and no killing....we hear you and wish the same.....they dont. And thinking with your heart in my situation would get me killed. The bible says an eye for an eye....but it also said turn the other cheek.....we've run out of cheeks......



and that sentiment is just as good for them as it is for us (whomever 'THEM' is at the moment)
not exactly hun...we didnt draw first blood this time. And I say this time because I wont deny the mistakes we have all made in the past. The difference is the steps we are taking.



who says we didnt draw first blood? we didnt support the israelis in their invasions and attacks in Israel and Lebanon?

like I said, an endless debate, because each side will insist THEIR retaliation is justified and the others actions are just 100% unwarranted(regardless of what the history has actually been)



Ha,ha,ha this just keeps getting better and better. laugh

Translation-America deserved 9-11.

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Fri 08/20/10 07:59 PM
i tried but it didnt take lol....

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Fri 08/20/10 07:59 PM






Umm ... no. There is NO 'fact-based information' in those responses ... it's all emotion.
EXACTLY!!! you are preaching peace and no killing....we hear you and wish the same.....they dont. And thinking with your heart in my situation would get me killed. The bible says an eye for an eye....but it also said turn the other cheek.....we've run out of cheeks......



and that sentiment is just as good for them as it is for us (whomever 'THEM' is at the moment)
not exactly hun...we didnt draw first blood this time. And I say this time because I wont deny the mistakes we have all made in the past. The difference is the steps we are taking.



who says we didnt draw first blood? we didnt support the israelis in their invasions and attacks in Israel and Lebanon?

like I said, an endless debate, because each side will insist THEIR retaliation is justified and the others actions are just 100% unwarranted(regardless of what the history has actually been)



Ha,ha,ha this just keeps getting better and better. laugh

Translation-America deserved 9-11.
pretty much eh?

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Fri 08/20/10 08:11 PM
Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...

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Fri 08/20/10 08:12 PM
well put

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Fri 08/20/10 11:23 PM

Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...



as do the never blame america at all crowds

I , however, pointed out the responsibility of ALL involved instead of assigning blame to one side exclusively,,,

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Sat 08/21/10 12:58 AM


Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...



as do the never blame america at all crowds

I , however, pointed out the responsibility of ALL involved instead of assigning blame to one side exclusively,,,


when someone gets knifed on the street do you believe that
everybody involved deserves equal blame always? There are no
justifiable excuses for this kind of attack.

laugh whoa

there is NO EXCUSE for the WTC bombings!



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Sat 08/21/10 07:02 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sat 08/21/10 07:03 AM


Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...


as do the never blame america at all crowds

I , however, pointed out the responsibility of ALL involved instead of assigning blame to one side exclusively,,,


whoa P F F F T T t t t t t t ...

There are things NOT deserving of either the warmfuzzy fiction of 'balance' or the misguided application of 'tolerance' ... it boils down to the reality that the only choices are to (1) Support America or, (2) Support its enemies. One of the nice things about these threads is that who's on which side of that 'choice' thing gets delineated pretty clearly pretty quickly. Makes things a lot easier than guessing who's on which side of the line.

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Sat 08/21/10 07:08 AM



Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...



as do the never blame america at all crowds

I , however, pointed out the responsibility of ALL involved instead of assigning blame to one side exclusively,,,


when someone gets knifed on the street do you believe that
everybody involved deserves equal blame always? There are no
justifiable excuses for this kind of attack.

laugh whoa


what you describe is a RANDOM attack,,,,firstly

secondly, there isnt an EXCUSE in my eyes for pre meditated violence of any kind,,, BUT, there is also no EXCUSE for the hypocrisy of one killer taking the higher moral ground over another

whatever our reasons, we supported israeli in actions which lead to innocent muslims being killed elsewhere,, to claim now that we have suffered that those who did the SAME to us are monsters while we are without any responsibility is hypocritical...

there is NO EXCUSE for the WTC bombings!




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Sat 08/21/10 07:11 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 08/21/10 07:13 AM



Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...


as do the never blame america at all crowds

I , however, pointed out the responsibility of ALL involved instead of assigning blame to one side exclusively,,,


whoa P F F F T T t t t t t t ...

There are things NOT deserving of either the warmfuzzy fiction of 'balance' or the misguided application of 'tolerance' ... it boils down to the reality that the only choices are to (1) Support America or, (2) Support its enemies. One of the nice things about these threads is that who's on which side of that 'choice' thing gets delineated pretty clearly pretty quickly. Makes things a lot easier than guessing who's on which side of the line.




I wouldnt expect any of those who believe an american life is more valuable than others simply because it is born in america to understand

if the big kid on the playground stands and watches one child beat down another , applauds and supports it, and than that beaten child strikes back,, the big kid is a HYPOCRITE to then go around trying to insist everyone should HATE the first child

you cant beat someone and then say I quit and be declared blameless to later accept victim status when that someone fights back

its been going on for a while, I dont know who TRULY made the first strike , but its hypocritical for EITHER side to play like they are strictly victims who have done NO instigating or initiating of this mess...


but I guess like no REAL christian can love their muslim neighbor
no REAL american should dare own up to any of the blood shed and innocent lives on the hands of american government(regardless of their 'justifications')...people dont always mourn their dead gracefully, look at how we felt about 9/11

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Sat 08/21/10 07:17 AM




what makes two blocks away from where people died 'sacred'?


If you can't understand these emotions, it's just a waste of time to explain ANYthing further ...



I understand it completely,, its called EGO

'my dead are more significant than your dead' attitudes which keep people divided AND offended



Wow I can't believe I just heard that. slaphead


yeah, join the club, I cant believe half the hateful, violent, bigoted statements I read in these threads either

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Sat 08/21/10 08:01 AM
Eye for an Eye.
Per their own Law.
The Muslims blew up and killed folks in the WTC, let the US blow up the filled Mosque in Mecca.

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Sat 08/21/10 08:08 AM

Eye for an Eye.
Per their own Law.
The Muslims blew up and killed folks in the WTC, let the US blow up the filled Mosque in Mecca.

Hammurabi (Akkadian from Amorite ˤAmmurāpi, "the kinsman is a healer," from ˤAmmu, "paternal kinsman," and Rāpi, "healer"; (died c. 1750 BC)) was the sixth king of Babylon from 1792 BC to 1750 BC middle chronology (1728 BC – 1686 BC short chronology)[1] He became the first king of the Babylonian Empire following the abdication of his father, Sin-Muballit, extending Babylon's control over Mesopotamia by winning a series of wars against neighboring kingdoms.[2] Although his empire controlled all of Mesopotamia at the time of his death, his successors were unable to maintain his empire.

Hammurabi is known for the set of laws called Hammurabi's Code, one of the first written codes of law in recorded history. These laws were written on a stone tablet standing over eight feet tall (2.4 meters) that was found in 1901. Owing to his reputation in modern times as an ancient law-giver, Hammurabi's portrait is in many government buildings throughout the world.

You are right about one thing..Americans worship money above all else, there was nothing random in the Talibans selection of the WTC..

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Sat 08/21/10 11:08 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 08/21/10 11:14 AM




Luckily, the 'Blame-America-First' crowd always outs themselves with their 'rhetoric' ...



as do the never blame america at all crowds

I , however, pointed out the responsibility of ALL involved instead of assigning blame to one side exclusively,,,


when someone gets knifed on the street do you believe that
everybody involved deserves equal blame always? There are no
justifiable excuses for this kind of attack.

laugh whoa

there is NO EXCUSE for the WTC bombings!





what you describe is a RANDOM attack,,,,firstly

secondly, there isnt an EXCUSE in my eyes for pre meditated violence of any kind,,, BUT, there is also no EXCUSE for the hypocrisy of one killer taking the higher moral ground over another

whatever our reasons, we supported israeli in actions which lead to innocent muslims being killed elsewhere,, to claim now that we have suffered that those who did the SAME to us are monsters while we are without any responsibility is hypocritical...



When someone gets attacked it is never truly random. There is always
a reason and a motivation. The victim is selected.

Israel does not and never has killed innocent people intentionally.
This is purely the tactic of Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Aqsa, Muslim
Brotherhood, Taliban etc.

To suggest the moral equivalence of terrorism and self-defense is
to deny the war-crime nature of terrorism - Civilized people never
would accept that bombing a cafe or busload of schoolkids or
shooting rockets into a city with no intent but to kill as many
civilians as possible is equivalent to warfare. It is not.

Those who use terrorist tactics ARE real monsters.

In short, neither the U.S. nor Israel employs terrorist tactics.
We and they use conventional warfare when attacked and abide by
a strict moral responsibility in war.

This is not the same as terrorism. We do not intentionally hijack
planeloads of innocent people and fly them into office buildings
filled with innocent people. There is no moral equivalence.

Ugh.

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/21/10 11:11 AM

Eye for an Eye.
Per their own Law.
The Muslims blew up and killed folks in the WTC, let the US blow up the filled Mosque in Mecca.



that card was already played, with UN support of sanctions and attacks on Lebanon


this was THEIR eye for an eye

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Sat 08/21/10 11:16 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 08/21/10 11:26 AM


Eye for an Eye.
Per their own Law.
The Muslims blew up and killed folks in the WTC, let the US blow up the filled Mosque in Mecca.



that card was already played, with UN support of sanctions and attacks on Lebanon


this was THEIR eye for an eye


What do Al-Qaeda attacks on the US have to do with UN sanctions and
attacks on Lebanon?!?!

laugh

Do we need to replay the Osama bin Laden tapes here?

laugh

In earlier tapes bin Laden railed against the Western influence
and eroding Muslim values particularly in Saudi Arabia but also
in other Arab countries as his motivation. Only later in 2004
did he claim that Israeli aggression was a factor.

(3 years after the WTC attack)

So, I don't buy it. Bin Laden is simply against Western values and
anything which he feels erodes his own twisted version of antiquated
Islam. It is vile. Only later did he seek to garner support within
the anti-Israel community by dragging them into it but is was never
a primary consideration as his early complaints clearly demonstrate.