Topic: Ancient Astronaught theory
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Wed 04/22/09 10:06 PM

I am a draconian 2500 years old:smile:

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but no one believes medrinker


----------- WHY NOT? CAN'T YOU PROVE IT? ? ?
JUST TAKE YOUR PANTS OFF AND SHOW THEM AN EYE IN BETWEEN YOUR LEGS!!! :smile:

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Wed 04/22/09 10:33 PM


David, I sincerely beg your pardon (since I don't know what your last post to Billy was about), but I feel you're waisting your energy... (or may be it is important to you that Every single entity and all of the unsophysticated folks of this thread shared your point of view?..) But why? Let them rot in their ignorance! After all, you ain't gonna convince them anyway -- STUBBORNESS's a pain! Besides, there are much more important things to worry about:

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If you remember, recently, JeanieB posted a message about aliens already being here and controling everything -- what I called a "Conspiracy Theory" -- a prepostorous idea which nobody took seriously... (though, I finished my rebutal^ with a frightening suspicion of her might be right! -- for some unknown reason!!!) And today it occurred to me Why:

** Contrary to our expectations, aliens may represent any shape/form of being -- including Amorphous (i.e. aparitions)* -- in which case they wouldn't have any problem in roaming around unnoticed (especially at night), or getting confused with the ghosts, or even taking possession of human bodies without the hosts' awareness...

I closed my pseudo-rebutal^ with the phrase: God, help us! ! !
I'm curious about what you (and JB) think about this conjecture...

P.S. If you don't mind, could you limit your sentences only to one subject (2 atmost) and as many objects? ? ?


everything that was the last second in time is bit ignorance, so none exist in the perception i see thru, or write thru???

stubborness is but resistence to preserve until hearing what is more true, so again, stubborness is not any perception i see thru nor write thru???

some words are but written for the past, present, and future, laying down a framework for reality itself, and this is the reason for all words written in these posts.

it is a sad but understood good thing, known from this perception, that the most truth about alien's cannot be understood, nor even begun to be taken into the mind, less the past, and present, and future is first passed away within the brain itself???

this phenomenon, nothing can give unto another, only caress will all words towards "each" it's own darkness, which is the light???

the universe itself control who believe what it believe, and when it can be believed, and waiting on all such things only create patience needed to know that each movement of the human body, each breath, each word, each sigh, is not controlled by self at all as self think, which indeed, is the very essence of alien's, as man itself is the alien???

see, told ya, speaking it would not matter, lol...

there is no outside alien life that is not man itself, and the cabal to prommote this come first from a true essence of truth, but not actually believed, and turned into a power maintenance scheme???

one need not ever be afraid of any alien hostile life form but man itself???

but, did that make one bit of difference???

words have no meaning, can't have meaning, contrary to what human thinking percieve, except SELF FIRST KNEW IT???

so outside words, in reality, only "match up" to what self already knew, just didn't know that it knew it, nor to believe it???

an awakening so to speak, to all new data as it walk along the path of finite time for a spell, as indeed, it is as a "spell", or "force field" created by man itself, by all human contact amoung the species, first only creating a total 'mimiced' civilization, as the only learned experience, all human things being "plagerized" just as you so spoke, and this held over human man, blocking the brain, cannot be removed except by indeed "good" 'alien' intervention, and without it, humanness itself cannot see such nor recognize it.

half of all your written words would be truth of the universe itself, the other half, or the definition you give to them, would be what your personal "one life" attribute to them, and these things, i ADDED TO, only to not misguide as to what this one perception actually see, and not to mix that with what you see???

THE HUMAN CONDITION CANNOT SEE IT IS "GUESSING" WHAT OTHER'S ARE, BASING IT ON ITSELF, which is no true understanding of other's at all???

this create no words from the outside believed, simply refuted, and self defending what itself is, based on each response???

this in itself, keep mortal man from all infinity, but, the time and days of infinity are as already as the now???

i will add this???
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you WILL see alien life form by 09-09-09. [*** GREAT, I MARK THAT DATE IN MY CALENDAR ***]

but then you have been seeing 'alien' life form all along, so there will not be any notice unless there is a 'awakeing first', to understand the "energy", as this will be the only sign such is what it is, as no sign is ever given IN ADVANCE, only words, perhaps slightly "different" sounding words, for many good infinite reasons.

there will be a "real", and there will be a "fake", but the fake has no idea there really is a real, and will be easily overcome, quite to the dismay of all who planned such long perpetrated scheme's, lol...

peace out space invaders of the human kind

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If I read you correctly, you also maintain that all of the alien Mambo-Jumbo is just a cover up for the visitors from the Future???**

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Wed 04/22/09 10:53 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 04/22/09 10:57 PM

David, I sincerely beg your pardon (since I don't know what your last post to Billy was about), but I feel you're waisting your energy... (or may be it is important to you that Every single entity and all of the unsophysticated folks of this thread shared your point of view?..) But why? Let them rot in their ignorance! After all, you ain't gonna convince them anyway -- STUBBORNESS's a pain! Besides, there are much more important things to worry about:

***************************************************************
*_______________A FRIGHTENING REALIZATION_____________________*
* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..*
***************************************************************

If you remember, recently, JeanieB posted a message about aliens already being here and controling everything -- what I called a "Conspiracy Theory" -- a prepostorous idea which nobody took seriously... (though, I finished my rebutal^ with a frightening suspicion of her might be right! -- for some unknown reason!!!) And today it occurred to me Why:

** Contrary to our expectations, aliens may represent any shape/form of being -- including Amorphous (i.e. aparitions)* -- in which case they wouldn't have any problem in roaming around unnoticed (especially at night), or getting confused with the ghosts, or even taking possession of human bodies without the hosts' awareness...

I closed my pseudo-rebutal^ with the phrase: God, help us! ! !
I'm curious about what you (and JB) think about this conjecture...

P.S. If you don't mind, could you limit your sentences only to one subject (2 atmost) and as many objects? ? ?



The aliens exist in both physical form and non-physical form. The non-physical form is still "material" but it is a different frequency of "material."

Call it a parallel universe that exists in the same place and time that we do. Yes it certainly sounds like science fiction. Science because it is scientific, and fiction because it seems difficult to believe something we can't see and verify.

What is "material" after all? It is vibration. It is nothing more than light and sound at different frequencies. What is the building block of all matter? The particle? That has not been found or measured yet. It does not exist.

So what exists? Light and sound and vibration emanating from all manner and size of black holes that are event horizons of consciousness, but that's another subject, don't get me started.

Getting back to alien beings. They exist here and now just like everything else exists here now.

But if you want to imagine that we live in a matrix of space and time, know that we share that matrix with non-human sentient life forms of a different frequency who have discovered how to come through a door to our world.

(Just like that show "Sliders.")

Just consider that anything you can imagine exists.... somewhere. Because it is imagined, it exists, if not in this world of third density matter, then in some other mind world.

All worlds are mind worlds of different frequencies.








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Thu 04/23/09 01:43 AM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Thu 04/23/09 01:53 AM
First Earth Age

Before the Katabole

Before Genesis

Before the Earth BECAME Void and Without Form

The World that then was as mentioned in Scripture

The World to which our Fossil Remains Belong



Morning alldrinker


An Earth Age before this Flesh age



some very old art and such has pictures of what appear to be flying objects, just a thought

The wheels of Ezekiel- A wheel within a wheel that went upon it's side, draw that on a piece of paper and see what it looks like

just thought i'd throw in some more thoughts on this topic

mornin, time for my coffee, Hot Blonde and Sweet bigsmile drinker

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Thu 04/23/09 09:47 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 04/23/09 09:56 AM
it would lead to more knowing if one thought of alien's as but all humans who have already humanly died???

the "dead" are MUCH MORE ALIVE than the human race, just LIVING IN MORE AWARENES, SO WITH MORE POWER, TO TRAVEL AT WILL TO WHERE ONE WISH, which can BE ANYWHERE???

each human is half human, half alien, but the only way to get out of the "human half", the "restricted" half, is but first to SEE other's as more important than self???

only because, NOTHING has yet the knowing itself need, to handle "greater freedom and power", until it has the wisdom to go with it???

which only come in seeing every little word, every little action, from another is good???

it was sent to self to "teach it something", and the greatest set back to moving into such things of more power, which is wisdom, is first deeming that the only words to listen to from those around self as the "good words" of flattery, and all such things self love to hear???

it is most it's intimate one's first, one must hear as speaking "negative" as the good words of the wisdom???

indeed, the words coming thru a "negative" steam, tell of greater truth, as these, tell what is NOT IN SYNCH, so THESE are the words needed to prove TRUE to self, to first learn HOW AND WHO TO SOLVE NEGATIVE, and wisdom is 'solving negative', so a most diobolical situation indeed to be human it be, as what it need the most, it most despise, lol...

anything negative of self, denied of self, become as the guide that create self into the same, so slowly, that self cannot feel it, so the only "barometer" of one's own reality, the "most true reality", is other's around itself, as EACH THING IS IN SELF, SO SEE NOT IT'S TRUE SELF, as self delude itself into believing, so the one's who speak most around self, are indeed much more important than human perception think them to be???



peace




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Thu 04/23/09 02:00 PM

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***************************************************************
*_______________A FRIGHTENING REALIZATION_____________________*
* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..*
***************************************************************
** Contrary to our expectations, aliens may represent any shape/form of being -- including Amorphous (i.e. aparitions)* -- in which case they wouldn't have any problem in roaming around unnoticed (especially at night), or getting confused with the ghosts, or even taking possession of human bodies without the hosts' awareness...




The aliens exist in both physical form and non-physical form. The non-physical form is still "material" but it is a different frequency of "material."

What is "material" after all? It is vibration. It is nothing more than light and sound at different frequencies. What is the building block of all matter? The particle? That has not been found or measured yet. It does not exist.

But if you want to imagine that we live in a matrix of space and time, know that we share that matrix with non-human sentient life forms of a different frequency who have discovered how to come through a door to our world. (Just like that show "Sliders.")

Just consider that anything you can imagine exists.... somewhere. Because it is imagined, it exists, if not in this world of third density matter, then in some other mind world.

All worlds are mind worlds of different frequencies.
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Thank you, Gloria, that's a very probable view of the subject matter:
... certainly, a different frequency of life is much more realistic approximation than a "transparent" one!
I see your point... (I must've been infected by people who wear blinders?)* * *

But then -- regarding your other declaration -- How/Why would they allow you/others to disclose their secret nature? ? ? I'd imagine "they" would prefer to remain "anonymous" for as long as they possibly can... (but you go and spoil it all by blowing their cover!!!)
I'm suprized you haven't been abducted yet! (or haven't you?) LOL

Nevertheless, "they" have made a tremendous miscalculation:
"they" would be better of by keeping the Humanity in the Dark Ages -- preying to "God". However, the Church, unwittingly, has influenced the development of *** Science and Engineering(!!!) --> because complex mechanizms have often been/are necessary for creating Awsome "mirracles" that kept the masses in obedience (whose willingness to pay/support the Church has been perpetuated by those pseudo-mirracles -- most of which have eventually entered the main stream, i.e. the everyday life). Thus, in a way, the Church has influenced the Progress(?)!!! * * * * * *

On the other hand, I remember you saying "they" (aliens) need our ingenuity for conquering the Universe... Yeah, in that case, they've accomplished their mission!!! * * * * * *

But, listen, What's wrong with being a "kept animal", as long as we are capable of sattisfying our needs, wants, desires, and urges??
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P.S.
- regarding your comment,
["Just consider that anything you can imagine exists.... somewhere. Because it is imagined, it exists, if not in this world of third density matter, then in some other mind world."],
I can see why David insists upon Everything being Plagirized! ! !

Then, I suppose, Einstein was no genius after all! He's just managed (somehow) to tap into the universal pool of Knowledge...
(shux, I suspected that!!! LOL)

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Fri 04/24/09 08:15 AM
How about the "Vrimanas" from ancient Indian culuture or the stories from africa about a "serpent people" or how about the stuff the Hopi talked about.

What about the book of enoch?

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Fri 04/24/09 09:15 AM

How about the "Vrimanas" from ancient Indian culuture or the stories from africa about a "serpent people" or how about the stuff the Hopi talked about.

What about the book of enoch?
bigsmile You are talking about the Nagasbigsmile

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Fri 04/24/09 09:30 AM
drinker smokin

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Fri 04/24/09 09:40 AM


How about the "Vrimanas" from ancient Indian culuture or the stories from africa about a "serpent people" or how about the stuff the Hopi talked about.

What about the book of enoch?
bigsmile You are talking about the Nagasbigsmile


I think the snake people (nagas) and the ant people of the Hopi are two different races.

The ant people could be the aliens described as the "grays" that have the big eyes.

I think the nagas are a larger more humanoid looking reptilian race with a tail.

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Fri 04/24/09 09:51 AM



How about the "Vrimanas" from ancient Indian culuture or the stories from africa about a "serpent people" or how about the stuff the Hopi talked about.

What about the book of enoch?
bigsmile You are talking about the Nagasbigsmile


I think the snake people (nagas) and the ant people of the Hopi are two different races.

The ant people could be the aliens described as the "grays" that have the big eyes.

I think the nagas are a larger more humanoid looking reptilian race with a tail.
flowerforyou Yeah, I knew about the nagas being a subteranean serpent/reptile raceflowerforyou

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Fri 04/24/09 09:53 AM



glasses Anyone interested in ancient astronauts (Galactica scenarios)should read thisglasses

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Sun 04/26/09 10:51 PM




glasses Anyone interested in ancient astronauts (Galactica scenarios)should read thisglasses


:bored:
Sorry, MM, but -- even though that was a great book a couple of years ago -- ITS OLD NEWS TODAY...

Besides -- according to most of the "greys" -- Erich von Daniken is only partly right! LOL

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Mon 04/27/09 06:47 PM





glasses Anyone interested in ancient astronauts (Galactica scenarios)should read thisglasses


:bored:
Sorry, MM, but -- even though that was a great book a couple of years ago -- ITS OLD NEWS TODAY...

Besides -- according to most of the "greys" -- Erich von Daniken is only partly right! LOL



scared You shouldn't trust the greysscared

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Mon 04/27/09 07:09 PM
if each human in the universe, was just seen as "part right", and "part wrong", at least the brain would not discount all, and be able to find the true half???

believing all things are wrong, if self does not know the same, and thinking such is good wisdom, or lead to knowing, is the saddest state of human existence, leading but soon to no knowing at all but what two eye's have seen???

do not all eye's see a "lifetime", so how does the brain come to base all possible on but one lifetime alone???

to believe everything is possible from all, and not just some, easily keep self from being decieved, as it listen to all, so know itself has ALL the story, from ALL???

THERE IS NO GREATER DECEPTION, THAN BUT TO HEAR SOME???

how can the whole story of human civilization, be anything more than what all have seen put together???

why are words put into categories and labels, when they are but what another has seen and deducted, just as self has???

only some as possible, lead but to some as good, which is what lead to the brain being abel to villianize some, which but lead to a villianizing society???

peace

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Tue 04/28/09 07:44 PM
Chew on this.

For nearly a century, physicists have tried to reconcile Einstein’s vision of the universe (including three dimensions of space and one of time) with the bizarre realm of quantum physics, rife with such oddities as instant communication at a distance and being in two places at once. The effort to unify the views has resulted in a stream of elaborate hypotheses positing worlds with multiple dimensions of space, most notably string theory and its successor, M-theory.

Itzhak Bars, a theoretical physicist at the University of Southern California, thinks these hypotheses are missing a crucial ingredient: an extra dimension of time. By adding a second dimension of time and a fourth dimension of space to Einstein’s standard space-time, Bars has come up with a new model providing “additional information that remained hidden in previous formulations” of physics, including current versions of M-theory. Such a model could better explain “how nature works,” he says.

Physicists had never added a second dimension of time to their models because it opens the possibility of traveling back in time and introduces negative probabilities and other scenarios that seem nonsensical. In his equations Bars has solved these problems with a new symmetry that treats an object’s position and its momentum as interchangeable at any given instant.

Does this mean we could actually experience a second dimension of time? “Yes,” Bars says, “but only indirectly,” by thinking of the world around us as many shadows that look different depending on the perspective of the light source. “The predicted relations among the different shadows contain most of the information about the extra dimensions,” he explains. Next, Bars and his team are developing tests for two-time physics and investigating how to apply the theory to all the natural forces, including gravity. Adding two-time physics to M-theory, he says, should help us close in on “the fundamental theory that so far has eluded all of us.”

I know, no one wants to chew on eleven dimensional math which is the basis of current M theory. However! If the second time dimension is added, which gives equal possibilities to going backward in time, maybe the ancient astronauts are just us, in the future, going back for some mischief. There might be a "mothman" club or you just get a lizard makeover instead of a tatoo!

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Tue 04/28/09 07:53 PM
BTW, I wrote the first and last of the above post. The cut and paste of the middle doesn't really show as a quote from Discovery but is. blushing

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Wed 04/29/09 02:49 PM

Chew on this.

For nearly a century, physicists have tried to reconcile Einstein’s vision of the universe (including three dimensions of space and one of time) with the bizarre realm of quantum physics, rife with such oddities as instant communication at a distance and being in two places at once. The effort to unify the views has resulted in a stream of elaborate hypotheses positing worlds with multiple dimensions of space, most notably string theory and its successor, M-theory.

Itzhak Bars, a theoretical physicist at the University of Southern California, thinks these hypotheses are missing a crucial ingredient: an extra dimension of time. By adding a second dimension of time and a fourth dimension of space to Einstein’s standard space-time, Bars has come up with a new model providing “additional information that remained hidden in previous formulations” of physics, including current versions of M-theory. Such a model could better explain “how nature works,” he says.

Physicists had never added a second dimension of time to their models because it opens the possibility of traveling back in time and introduces negative probabilities and other scenarios that seem nonsensical. In his equations Bars has solved these problems with a new symmetry that treats an object’s position and its momentum as interchangeable at any given instant.

Does this mean we could actually experience a second dimension of time? “Yes,” Bars says, “but only indirectly,” by thinking of the world around us as many shadows that look different depending on the perspective of the light source. “The predicted relations among the different shadows contain most of the information about the extra dimensions,” he explains. Next, Bars and his team are developing tests for two-time physics and investigating how to apply the theory to all the natural forces, including gravity. Adding two-time physics to M-theory, he says, should help us close in on “the fundamental theory that so far has eluded all of us.”

I know, no one wants to chew on eleven dimensional math which is the basis of current M theory. However! If the second time dimension is added, which gives equal possibilities to going backward in time, maybe the ancient astronauts are just us, in the future, going back for some mischief. There might be a "mothman" club or you just get a lizard makeover instead of a tatoo!




happy interestingglasses

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Mon 05/04/09 12:53 AM

I know, no one wants to chew on eleven dimensional math which is the basis of current M theory. However! If the second time dimension is added, which gives equal possibilities to going backward in time, maybe the ancient astronauts are just us, in the future, going back for some mischief. There might be a "mothman" club or you just get a lizard makeover instead of a tatoo!
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Wow, METALWING, just as I suspected:
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Aliens are just tourists from the future! ! !
******************************************* --IT'LL BE CONFIRMED!!!
But why would you say "maybe the ancient astronauts are just us, in the future, going back for some mischief"??? ...MISCHIEF?!! lol:
DO YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IS IT TO BOOK A TOUR IN THE ANCIENT TIMES?
In addition to that, everyone would have to be approved by the special commitee -- to avoid the possibility of anyone inadventerdly ruining anything in the past, thereby altering the future...
The reason the tickets are (or Wil be) so expensive is because of the expense associated with planting the idea of "ALIENS" in the 20th century -- to cover up the whole operation!!!

Finally, my initial suspicion is confirmed!

Would you be so kind as to provide some reference to that discovery?
Thank you in advance!!!