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Topic: Your child is smoking pot
iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:06 PM

I have a different veiw than most I guess....I saw my best friends kid grow up exposed to pot. As she matured, of course she wanted to try it...so after a while her mom said ok. Now, she does as an adult, smoke pot. But during the worst of growing up,"the teen years", she NEVER hesitated in returning to her mother for answers about anything, including drugs.
As I saw their relationship and bond grow...it became apparent to me that I wanted this open door w/ my child. So I opened the door for all conversation...lo and behold, she came to me first rather than "experiment" w/o knowing the dangers.
There are no proven side effects of children born to a pot smoker, It has been used for centuries , and in the correct setting, can be enjoyed and not lead to harder drugs. The problem w/ any drug is that parents "dont want to know", or punish severly, or refuse to see the signs that might lead their kids down the wrong path.
As a non-smoker...I have no problem with it, I think correct education, awareness, and guidence is key.
If you yell...they will just hide it and get in trouble. Give a child a crayon,and he will draw on the walls. Teach him art and he will paint a masterpiece....

I think you are so correct...education is the key!
Kudos to you!
*Applauds you*



MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:30 PM


This is your brain










This is your brain on drugs












Get the picture


i`ll take mine with a side of bacon, please



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MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:30 PM



mmmmmm...my brain with bacondrool


i`m tempted to start smoking marijuana nowsmokin





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MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 03/08/09 12:44 AM
:banana: :banana: whoot whoot:banana: :banana:

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Sun 03/08/09 12:55 AM
drinker :heart: smokin

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 03/08/09 07:07 AM
Edited by FearandLoathing on Sun 03/08/09 07:08 AM
I am the gateway drug.smokin

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/43

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/09/09 12:33 AM


laugh lollaugh

scorpio90's photo
Mon 03/09/09 12:40 AM
:tongue: aaaawe all know it started with couph syrup.winking

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/09/09 12:45 AM

:tongue: aaaawe all know it started with couph syrup.winking
laugh laugh laugh laugh

Filmfreek's photo
Mon 03/09/09 07:59 AM
Heroin, cocaine, and many other harder/illegal drugs are widely available in Amsterdam. Marijuana and shrooms are legal. Yet...about 95% of the citizens ONLY do the legal drugs. This is a FACT.

Why would Americans be any different?


7z3r05's photo
Mon 03/09/09 08:02 AM
smokin of course as a parent you are pretty much obligated to do the parent thing. ill be singing a different tune when im a parent.

but for now... smokin

DaBadGuy4U's photo
Mon 03/09/09 11:16 AM
Well Im a single father of 4 boys so Im dreading (though my fingers are crossed that it doesnt happen with all my "say no to drugs speeches I've given), the day I find out one has gotten high. I used to be a avid weedhead but as stated before, kids change everything.

If it happens I'll sit them down tell them Im dissapointed (while putting the fear of God in them lol), and hope they listen. If it ends up turning into a habit rather than a experiment, I'll most likely not know which road to take. Threating violence doesnt work (like a azz whuppin i mean), calling the cops on your own for smokin' weed is foolish and ignoring it will make it worse. Guess you just have to cross that bridge when you get to it.....

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 03/09/09 01:07 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 03/09/09 01:08 PM



If Obama REALLY wanted to "stimulate" the economy...legalizing marijuana would be a damn good start. The taxes could help the economy AND it would create thousands of new jobs.



smokin that is exactly what he is doing smokin


drinker yes, it is high time it be legal again...drinker


i said this before & i'll say it again flowerforyou


if people would read the book :thumbsup:


the Emperor wears no clothes by jack herer/// shades


www.jackherer.com smokin


www.theemperorwearsnoclothes.com smokin




the entire book is online...for free :thumbsup:


then they would see the hugely selfish actions ill


of WILLIAM RANDOLF HEARST & JOHN DOW devil devil


AND THEIR UNSCRUPULOUS LIES THAT LED TO POT BEING ILLEGAL pitchfork


IT WOULD OPEN EVERYONE'S EYES shocked shocked shocked


AND MANY PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT HEMP smokin WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTLOOK flowerforyou





bigsmile okay Boys & Girls flowerforyou I' m out of here bigsmile



flowerforyou & please don't shoot the messengers flowerforyou

















The Emperor Wears No Clothes...great book. I met Jack Herrer twice in the early ninties. Once at a NORML rally in Philly and again at Penn State University. We smoked and talked for hours about activism. He was amazing.







happy :wink: smokin Wow, waving this thread is still going strong bigsmile i see !!! smokin :wink: happy


I just arrived home from renting a car :thumbsup:
& spending an amazingly spiritual ~ :angel:
absolutely gorgeous smitten
perfect three days with my youngest Daughter :heart:
& her fiance' & many many new & old friends flowerforyou
out in the sun drenched fragrant :thumbsup:
lush velvet green hills of Northern California :heart:
North of San Francisco across the Golden Gate Bridge bigsmile
got online happy
& came across this comment ....smokin



flowerforyou All I can say is ..... flowerforyou


smokin smokin smokin " WOW " smokin smokin smokin



bigsmile & I'd LOVE flowerforyou to hear more about it bigsmile
















MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/09/09 11:56 PM
bigsmile There is a light at the end of every tunnel.bigsmile

:tongue: Just pray it’s not a train!:tongue:


Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:12 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Thu 03/12/09 09:13 AM

bigsmile There is a light at the end of every tunnel.bigsmile

:tongue: Just pray it’s not a train!:tongue:





:heart: flowerforyou :heart: yes, let's pray for :angel: & hope for :thumbsup:
& work towards drinker the very best flowerforyou for our Children :heart: & Grandchildren :heart: flowerforyou :heart:


Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/12/09 09:15 AM

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 03/12/09 11:18 AM
I am the gateway drug.smokin

http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/library/mjgate.htm

Rapunzel's photo
Thu 03/12/09 11:34 AM




The Myth of Marijuana's Gateway Effect
by John P. Morgan, M.D. and Lynn Zimmer, Ph.D.


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The Partnership for a Drug-Free America, in cooperation with the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and the White House Office of Drug Control Policy, recently announced a new anti-drug campaign that specifically targets marijuana. Instead of featuring horror tales of marijuana-induced insanity, violence and birth detects, this campaign is built upon the premise that reducing marijuana use is a practical strategy for reducing the use of more dangerous drugs.

The primary basis for this "gateway hypothesis" is a recent report by the center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA), claiming that marijuana users are 85 times more likely than non-marijuana users to try cocaine. This figure, using data from NIDA's 1991 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, is close to being meaningless. It was calculated by dividing the proportion of marijuana users who have ever used cocaine (17%) by the proportion of cocaine users who have never used marijuana (.2%). The high risk-factor obtained is a product not of the fact that so many marijuana users use cocaine but that so many cocaine users used marijuana previously.

It is hardly a revelation that people who use one of the least popular drugs are likely to use the more popular ones -- not only marijuana, but also alcohol and tobacco cigarettes. The obvious statistic not publicized by CASA is that most marijuana users -- 83 percent -- never use cocaine. Indeed, for the nearly 70 million Americans who have tried marijuana, it is clearly a "terminus" rather than a "gateway" drug.

During the last few years, after a decade of decline, there has been a slight increase in marijuana use, particularly among youth. In 1994, 38 percent of high school seniors reported having ever tried the drug, compared to about 35 percent in 1993 and 33 percent in 1992. This increase does not constitute a crisis. No one knows whether marijuana use-rates will continue to rise. But even if they do, it will not necessarily lead to increased use of cocaine.

Since the 1970s, when NIDA first began gathering data, rates of marijuana and cocaine use have displayed divergent patterns. Marijuana prevalence increased throughout the 1970s, peaking in 1979, when about 60 percent of high school seniors reported having used it at least once. During the 1980s, cocaine use increased while marijuana use was declining. Since 1991, when data for the CASA analysis were gathered, marijuana use-rates have increased while cocaine use-rates have remained fairly steady.

The over-changing nature of the statistical relationship between use-rate for marijuana and cocaine indicates the absence of a causal link between the use of these two drugs. Therefore, even if the proposed Partnership campaign were to be effective in reducing marijuana use it would not guarantee a proportional reduction in the number of people who use cocaine. To the extent anti-drug campaigns are effective, they seem to be most effective in deterring those people who would have been fairly low-level users. There is no reason to believe that anti-marijuana messages of any sort would deter many of those marijuana users -- currently 17 percent of the total -- who also develop an interest in cocaine.

Nor is there reason to believe that the Partnership's new campaign will actually reduce the overall number of marijuana users. For a decade now, American youth have been subjected to an unparalleled assault of anti-drug messages. They have seen hundreds of Partnership advertisements, on television and in the print media. They have been urged to "just say no" by rock stars, sports heroes, presidents and first-ladies. They have been exposed to anti-drug educational programs in the schools. Yet this is the same generation of young people that recently began increasing its use of marijuana. It seems unlikely that many of them will be deterred by hyperbolic claims of marijuana's gateway effect, particularly when it contradicts the reality of drug use they see around them.

If the creators of American drug policy are truly interested in reducing the risk of marijuana users using other drugs, they should take a closer look at Holland, where drug policy since the 1970s has been guided by a commitment to diminishing any potential gateway effect. Wanting to keep young marijuana users away from cocaine and other "hard drugs," the Dutch decided to separate the retail markets by allowing anyone 18 years of age or older to purchase marijuana openly in government-controlled "coffee shops" which strictly prohibit the use and sale of other drugs.

Despite easy availability, marijuana prevalence among 12 to 18 year olds in Holland is only 13.6 percent -- well below the 38 percent use-rate for American high school seniors. More Dutch teenagers use marijuana now than in the past; indeed, lifetime prevalence increased nearly three-fold between 1984 and 1992, from

4.8 to 13.6 percent. However, Dutch officials consider their policy a success because the increase in marijuana use has not been accompanied by an increase in the use of other drugs. For the last decade, the rate of cocaine use among Dutch youth has remained stable, with about .3 percent of 12-18 year olds reporting having used it in the past month.

In the United States, the claim that marijuana acts as a gateway to the use of other drugs serves mainly as a rhetorical tool for frightening Americans into believing that winning the war against heroin and cocaine requires waging & battle against the casual use of marijuana. Not only is the claim intellectually indefensible, but the battle is wasteful of resources and fated to failure.

Received by Iowa NORML from the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), 1001 Connecticut Avenue, N.W., Suite 1010, Washington, D.C. 20036, on Tuesday, February 7, 1995. For more information, call Allen St. Pierre, NORML Assistant Director, at (202) 483-5500, or e-mail NORML at natlnorml@aol.com










FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:35 PM
I am the gateway drug.smokin

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth13.shtml

thebubbleking's photo
Fri 03/13/09 07:21 PM
I would talk to her and make sure she understands all the facts....with a hippy middle name makes it hard for me lol
Oh and would you all have the same answers if you were in a state where it was legal?

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