Topic: Is courtship extinct
SimplyElla's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:14 PM





I think it went out with the marrage lasting forever


it is terribly to not even have that any more..
the happily ever after with marriage I mean... total bummer
Yes it is a bummer But at the risk of appearing to be a loser nice guy as mirror says I still believe and anybody wants to argue that can say it to my face !


i don't believe at all that a man who does this is a loser nice guy...
if anything it shows he has respect and morals... hell... i know what he means though but.. i want a man kick it with watching a game with a few buckets of beer... in my jeans and heels... wearing a ponytail and wing sauce on my face... with him being rowdy with the boys and scratching his twins... all while still opening my doors, picking me up and being a gentleman as well... :laughing:

that is me though.. im weird
Nope thats real life not the fantasy that people cook up in they're minds !bigsmile
:laughing:

its all i ask for whoa

shoesmonkey's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:14 PM
It's just a drive thru as I keep saying. And, it's disgusting.

amouseinmask's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:14 PM
some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?

shoesmonkey's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:16 PM

some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.

darkowl1's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:19 PM
Edited by darkowl1 on Tue 12/23/08 12:22 PM



What ever happened to courtship? Where did it go?


To this who forgot what it means, Ha ha....
This was the process where the man expressed an interest in the pretty lady and sought her attentions by taking her to movies, walking her home from school/beach/dinner/shows, escorting her to the dance/parites, buying her dinner/lunch, etc., WITHOUT repeast WITHOUT seeking any sexual favors from her.

Are men not interested in doing so anymore?
Are women not interested in a man who will do such a thing?
flowerforyou Women arnt really interested in most of that anymore for the most part.flowerforyou I see men try to do things this way and they end up looking like "nice guys"a.k.a. losers.flowerforyou


Ah, see, I thought it was most men who weren't interested in doing any of those things.

i and many on here, will do these things, "if" someone will appreaciate it, but we have to change with the needs somewhat, so you'll have to ask your prospect if they will, lol.

i however, will not ever take on a mate now. too much to do, and they'll grt in my way.......it's funny, when you don't want it, or are hooked up, they come out of the wood work.....what the f is that all about? are you telling us, you like married men? or men that don't want you?noway surprised shocked laugh like i said, you like men that are an impossible challenge, and you'll stick around for the adventure or sex, not sure.....drool :banana: rofl frustrated

no photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:21 PM




What ever happened to courtship? Where did it go?


To this who forgot what it means, Ha ha....
This was the process where the man expressed an interest in the pretty lady and sought her attentions by taking her to movies, walking her home from school/beach/dinner/shows, escorting her to the dance/parites, buying her dinner/lunch, etc., WITHOUT repeast WITHOUT seeking any sexual favors from her.

Are men not interested in doing so anymore?
Are women not interested in a man who will do such a thing?
flowerforyou Women arnt really interested in most of that anymore for the most part.flowerforyou I see men try to do things this way and they end up looking like "nice guys"a.k.a. losers.flowerforyou


Ah, see, I thought it was most men who weren't interested in doing any of those things.

i and many on here, will do these things, "if" someone will appreaciate it, but we have to change with the needs somewhat, so you'll have to ask your prospect if they will, lol.

i however, will not ever take on a mate now. too much to do, and they'll grt in my way.......it's funny, when you don't want it, or are hooked up, they come out of the wood work.....what the f is that all about? are you telling us, you like married men? or men that don't want you?noway surprised shocked laugh


How do you decide if someone will appreciate it? Don't you have to try to see if they will? Or, do you just assume that certain people will or won't?

SimplyElla's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:21 PM

some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
I would agree somewhat. The whole "equality" movement pretty much took a nice warm juicy dump on chivalry and choked it to death. A guy is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If he opens a door that's seen as being a sexist pig. If he doesn't he's a jerk. They just can't win. BUT IT DOESN'T, DOES NOT BY ANY MEANS... mean he cannot be a gentleman!

mmmike's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:21 PM


some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.
This dont make it right but if a man stays home and cleans house and takes care of things at home wile she works hes is thought of as a bum

STARTRAVELER's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:22 PM

times are changing, and not for the better, it seems, and everyone expects......... and because of fear of getting hurt, or just plain selfishness, those values will only be coveted by those who have the stoutest of hearts, via, who wants to look like a sap, and a puzzywhip, for that's how the majority of women precieve it now, and the don't covet it, they take advantage, then see vulnerability, then crush it. i see it time and time again here.

most, not all, even still, want bad boys, and it's getting worse, for that seems to be the trend growing at an exponential rateshades
i guess you could say, it's stimulating, and always changing, for the badboy cares little, and the girl will follow....tuduloo, lol.
Well it's people with that kind of thinking that makes it possible to think the way they do know .A man with real courage will still believe in morals and like I said if anyone has a problem with it say it to my face and we'll see who the wimpy loser is !

CaliGamer85's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:23 PM
it's really sad. so many men pretend to be the "nice guy" just to end up in your pants... a real wolf-in-sheep's-clothing trick. It makes women suspicious of all the sincerely nice guys! It took me months to believe that my last ex was actually being nice and wasn't just seeking sexual favors. He's still a nice guy, he's just an incredibly busy nice guy, hence the "ex" factor. brokenheart It makes it difficult to let him go. Once you find a good man, you hold on to him for dear life, even when you aren't necessarily compatible; agreed ladies?

darkowl1's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:24 PM





What ever happened to courtship? Where did it go?


To this who forgot what it means, Ha ha....
This was the process where the man expressed an interest in the pretty lady and sought her attentions by taking her to movies, walking her home from school/beach/dinner/shows, escorting her to the dance/parites, buying her dinner/lunch, etc., WITHOUT repeast WITHOUT seeking any sexual favors from her.

Are men not interested in doing so anymore?
Are women not interested in a man who will do such a thing?
flowerforyou Women arnt really interested in most of that anymore for the most part.flowerforyou I see men try to do things this way and they end up looking like "nice guys"a.k.a. losers.flowerforyou


Ah, see, I thought it was most men who weren't interested in doing any of those things.

i and many on here, will do these things, "if" someone will appreaciate it, but we have to change with the needs somewhat, so you'll have to ask your prospect if they will, lol.

i however, will not ever take on a mate now. too much to do, and they'll grt in my way.......it's funny, when you don't want it, or are hooked up, they come out of the wood work.....what the f is that all about? are you telling us, you like married men? or men that don't want you?noway surprised shocked laugh


How do you decide if someone will appreciate it? Don't you have to try to see if they will? Or, do you just assume that certain people will or won't?


i just said, you gotta ask....... the right man will let you know, truthfully. you'll feel it in his trembling kiss. he'll worship the ground you walk on....until he's crushed again. lol.

no photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:26 PM



some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.
This dont make it right but if a man stays home and cleans house and takes care of things at home wile she works hes is thought of as a bum


By who?

no photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:28 PM






What ever happened to courtship? Where did it go?


To this who forgot what it means, Ha ha....
This was the process where the man expressed an interest in the pretty lady and sought her attentions by taking her to movies, walking her home from school/beach/dinner/shows, escorting her to the dance/parites, buying her dinner/lunch, etc., WITHOUT repeast WITHOUT seeking any sexual favors from her.

Are men not interested in doing so anymore?
Are women not interested in a man who will do such a thing?
flowerforyou Women arnt really interested in most of that anymore for the most part.flowerforyou I see men try to do things this way and they end up looking like "nice guys"a.k.a. losers.flowerforyou


Ah, see, I thought it was most men who weren't interested in doing any of those things.

i and many on here, will do these things, "if" someone will appreaciate it, but we have to change with the needs somewhat, so you'll have to ask your prospect if they will, lol.

i however, will not ever take on a mate now. too much to do, and they'll grt in my way.......it's funny, when you don't want it, or are hooked up, they come out of the wood work.....what the f is that all about? are you telling us, you like married men? or men that don't want you?noway surprised shocked laugh


How do you decide if someone will appreciate it? Don't you have to try to see if they will? Or, do you just assume that certain people will or won't?


i just said, you gotta ask....... the right man will let you know, truthfully. you'll feel it in his trembling kiss. he'll worship the ground you walk on....until he's crushed again. lol.


No, I'm not asking how to find out for myself. I'm asking how you decide who to do those things for and who not to.

darkowl1's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:29 PM


times are changing, and not for the better, it seems, and everyone expects......... and because of fear of getting hurt, or just plain selfishness, those values will only be coveted by those who have the stoutest of hearts, via, who wants to look like a sap, and a puzzywhip, for that's how the majority of women precieve it now, and the don't covet it, they take advantage, then see vulnerability, then crush it. i see it time and time again here.

most, not all, even still, want bad boys, and it's getting worse, for that seems to be the trend growing at an exponential rateshades
i guess you could say, it's stimulating, and always changing, for the badboy cares little, and the girl will follow....tuduloo, lol.
Well it's people with that kind of thinking that makes it possible to think the way they do know .A man with real courage will still believe in morals and like I said if anyone has a problem with it say it to my face and we'll see who the wimpy loser is !

sure, strength is in the soul, and the giving side is only vulnerable, and will lead you to true wisdom, depending on what it is, but if we get sided, instead of reflective, we show that ego that reverts to show pain, and lash-out, not the strength of the chi,,(lifeforce) which is much stronger.

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:29 PM

it's really sad. so many men pretend to be the "nice guy" just to end up in your pants... a real wolf-in-sheep's-clothing trick. It makes women suspicious of all the sincerely nice guys! It took me months to believe that my last ex was actually being nice and wasn't just seeking sexual favors. He's still a nice guy, he's just an incredibly busy nice guy, hence the "ex" factor. brokenheart It makes it difficult to let him go. Once you find a good man, you hold on to him for dear life, even when you aren't necessarily compatible; agreed ladies?


I can relate on this so much. I also must say that no matter how nice someone is, if you're not compatible its unfair to both parties to hang on. I have been there though, the wolves in sheep's clothing can be really sneaky too. They'll even be somewhat patient with ya until they get what they want... then they're gone.

mmmike's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:30 PM




some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.
This dont make it right but if a man stays home and cleans house and takes care of things at home wile she works hes is thought of as a bum


By who?
society

SimplyElla's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:31 PM





some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.
This dont make it right but if a man stays home and cleans house and takes care of things at home wile she works hes is thought of as a bum


By who?
society


and what do you have to back this claim up... i believe you to be totally wrong about how you see society viewing a househubby

JaymeStephens84a0lc's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:32 PM


some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.


I've said that so much lately. The women's lib movement killed marriages everywhere. I dont' think we should be in caveman days, but I would love for a man to open a door without shaking like a leaf... or using it as a ploy to get in ur pants...

no photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:33 PM






some peoples say Women killed chilvary, is this true? if it is, how so?
Women's lib. Look sweetie, you take out the trash and, I'll make dinner. Let's go back to that. It's the type of family that I grew up in.
This dont make it right but if a man stays home and cleans house and takes care of things at home wile she works hes is thought of as a bum


By who?
society


and what do you have to back this claim up... i believe you to be totally wrong about how you see society viewing a househubby


I also believe he's wrong. So, perhaps he has a different society he's talking about :tongue:.

STARTRAVELER's photo
Tue 12/23/08 12:34 PM






What ever happened to courtship? Where did it go?


To this who forgot what it means, Ha ha....
This was the process where the man expressed an interest in the pretty lady and sought her attentions by taking her to movies, walking her home from school/beach/dinner/shows, escorting her to the dance/parites, buying her dinner/lunch, etc., WITHOUT repeast WITHOUT seeking any sexual favors from her.

Are men not interested in doing so anymore?
Are women not interested in a man who will do such a thing?
flowerforyou Women arnt really interested in most of that anymore for the most part.flowerforyou I see men try to do things this way and they end up looking like "nice guys"a.k.a. losers.flowerforyou


Ah, see, I thought it was most men who weren't interested in doing any of those things.

i and many on here, will do these things, "if" someone will appreaciate it, but we have to change with the needs somewhat, so you'll have to ask your prospect if they will, lol.

i however, will not ever take on a mate now. too much to do, and they'll grt in my way.......it's funny, when you don't want it, or are hooked up, they come out of the wood work.....what the f is that all about? are you telling us, you like married men? or men that don't want you?noway surprised shocked laugh


How do you decide if someone will appreciate it? Don't you have to try to see if they will? Or, do you just assume that certain people will or won't?


i just said, you gotta ask....... the right man will let you know, truthfully. you'll feel it in his trembling kiss. he'll worship the ground you walk on....until he's crushed again. lol.
Well guess what thats part of life too .Did you only have one girlfriend from day one or did you go out with many ? Trial and error thats what it's all about !Men who can't deal with that are the real losers and wimps .No one knows who is right or wrong together untill time has past and they get to know each other !