What you are describing is what I would label "duty" as opposed to "responsibility". Duty being an obligation to others to act a certain way and responsibility being the willing acceptance of being cause.

It sounds like the problem is closely related to the ability to predict outcomes of ones actions, which is a big part of being able to integrate into a group structure. If one cannot predict how one’s actions will affect the group, one has no control over one’s group standing. And in your brother’s case, the “groups” include not just the family, but society in general and several of it’s sub-groups in specific.

JMHO

[edit: I came in late and other stuff has been discussed since I started this post. But I'll leave it instead of deleting it. May be of some use. I dunno.)

To get around to the real subject of "new age energy."

I believe things have energy that can be tapped into, but I'm not sure we know how exactly in all cases.

But I believe we can summon personal energy with our thoughts.

I don't think I could make a light bulb light up, but I can summon the energy and excitement to get a job done if I am excited about it and if I have pictured (visualized it)long enough for it to begin to manifest.

Our minds can do amazing things and I once channeled some kind of mental or spiritual energy through my body until I was totally exhausted. During that time I kept hearing myself think, "I need to rest." "I need to eat." "I need a drink of water." That was my body speaking. LOL

But I was possessed by this exciting purpose and energy and it just ignored all of those thoughts and kept on working as if I had taken some speed or something.

I knew what had to be done and how to do it and I could not stop myself... or I just did not want to stop. The pain and exhaustion did not matter. I just ignored it.

It seemed to come from within me and used my body to get the job done. When it was done, the energy left and I collapsed.

I had been planing to build this room for over a year, and one day I just picked up a hammer and decided to begin. I did not intend to do it all in one day, but I seemed possessed. I got it all done in one day without rest or pause.

It was very interesting indeed.

ATP baby! Humans are one of the only animals with double pairs of the carrier gene for ATP.

Its more then that of course, but I am not biology major . . no yet.

I don't know what you mean by ATP. Please explain.

Einstein didn't like quantum physics because it requires "Spooky action at a distance." I have made tofu taste like sausage. New age energy is science. It's old school science. You think that herbs and stones got their attributive qualities from somebody going... "We'll call that one protection!"? They tried different things for different applications. Part of being a witch is being a good record-keeper.

But I feel for you Bushido. Playing Devil's Advocate is hard work. I like it because I usually try to get people to see what I've seen. The best lesson is one that you learn yourself.

I have to agree with Plato as far as the concept of doctoring goes...



He also later says that if someone has an incurable disease, it is unethical and immoral to subjugate them to all kinds of treatments and operations in order to keep them alive. That a doctor should let them go and die a natural death.

ATP is the fuel that the body uses. It's what food and what-not gets broken down to. Cells in the body too when it runs out of other viable energy source.

Now, with all that d*mn catching up out of the way: Gravity.

Gravity, my dear friends, is hypothetical. At least if you want to understand what causes it. We have theoretical gravitrons, but that's about it. The only cause of gravity that science can give us is that "sh*t draws more sh*t."

New-agers could have told you that one, and we'd all be in agreement... except that who thought that such supposedly BS ideas could be applied to the physical realm that we know of. Now I know I'll probably get the "if I drop something, it always falls" argument, so let's just skip that and go to me asking you why it falls.

Also; Energy -

1. the capacity for vigorous activity; available power: I eat chocolate to get quick energy.
2. an adequate or abundant amount of such power: I seem to have no energy these days.
3. Often, energies. a feeling of tension caused or seeming to be caused by an excess of such power: to work off one's energies at tennis.
4. an exertion of such power: She plays tennis with great energy.
5. the habit of vigorous activity; vigor as a characteristic: Foreigners both admire and laugh at American energy.
6. the ability to act, lead others, effect, etc., forcefully.
7. forcefulness of expression: a writing style abounding with energy.
8. Physics. the capacity to do work; the property of a system that diminishes when the system does work on any other system, by an amount equal to the work so done; potential energy. Symbol: E
9. any source of usable power, as fossil fuel, electricity, or solar radiation.

If we're going to argue a word, let's define it first. If you want to stick with the application of Physics there BBC, that's fine. I'll try and beat you to the punch. Hope you don't mind if I go all mystical on your *ss.

A thought, which has little energy in and of itself (I'll probably catch flack from Sky for this one) since it's just a few electrons jumping gaps in your brain, has the potential to require 1 billion times more energy. There's no place for E=mc(squared) in the brain. To make a simple equivalent, let's say that you give me three buckets, each with three apples in it. You ask me how many apples you gave me. If I don't know multiplication, I'd have go go over and count them, 1 to 9. As it is, I could not move, ask you if you think I'm stupid, and reluctantly answer 9. Counting E > Multiplication tables E. Yet the same work was done. Work not meaning effort, work meaning from query to solution. (If you want to disregard all that, go ahead. I think I might be doing a whole from it's parts or vice versa fallacy, but let's not get too into those.)

While I'm at it, it's also the THEORY of relativity. Not proven. E=mc(squared) not necessarily true.

Only one shot from my flak gun: I don’t think that “electrons jumping gaps in your brain” is thought – any more than I think electrons jumping gaps in the air is thought.

Other than that, I followed you up to the point of the definition of work: “from query to solution”. Far from disregarding it, I’d like to clarify it, since it seems to be the point on which your entire argument revolves.

The conclusion seems to be that there was more energy required in taking longer to do the same amount of work. Both methods accomplished the same amount of work, but the counting method required more energy because it took longer.

In other words Energy = Work*Time.

In your example, W remains constant and T changes, which indicates that “1 billion times as much energy” requires “1 billion times as much time”.

So while there is potential for what you call thought to require 1 billion times as much energy, that potential could only be realized with 1 billion times as much time in which to “do the thinking.”

What I think is interesting is the implication that slow thinkers require more energy than fast thinkers. Or the corollary that if you want to conserve energy, think fast.

I understand your point of view and in most cases I'll agree with you, all I am offering is my perspective.

I do not claim to speak with trees, but what i do claim to do is listening to nature. Now I'm not saying there is English involved or even speech. I understand my claim can be explained away with daydreaming and other similar accepted occurrences. But i feel impressions in the woods, I've had wild creatures approach me, even though i live in a large hunting area. I have had my attention grabbed by animals behind me or in a tree that i did not hear but I felt their eyes on me. Now science tells me this is all in my head...but why do i feel creatures near me i can not hear, smell or see?

This is interesting. I've heard that detectives encounter a similar type phemomenon when tailing people. If they "look to hard" at the a suspect, the suspet will inevitably manifest symptoms of increased suspicion. Like they know they are being watched.

But my little parkouring electrons are the physical manifestation of thought. Though that needn't necessarily be thought itself.

I said to disregard it because it seemed like there is some fatal flaw in how I used the word work. But it seems as if you continued where my mind went "well, I'm f*cked."

By increasing efficiency, the same answer can be achieved. I think I was trying to say that the energy to get to the end should be the same. Point A- How many apples. Point B- 9. Where both points are the same on a graph, logic would dictate that somehow, one of the lines between the two would have to be longer. Which I think may be me somehow implying that thought forms in the second dimension, since this is the only way that one can perceive the lines to be both the same length, and have the one still be longer than the other. Your perspective just has to be rotated to see the differences.

Haha. I didn't mean to imply anything, but I'm up for running with that standpoint. Maybe that's why I don't eat a ton.



Oh, the wonderful power of intent. And actually, that ties in with one of what I assumed were my bigger points. Gravity. Intent (as far as I can see it) is a mental manifestation of gravity. That's why the whole "I am going to lead a happy and fulfilled life" repetition comes in. Your happy thoughts are pulling in happy circumstances. It's like a subconscious communication with others. People can actually feel your intent, whether they know it or not, and sometimes whether you want them to or not. I would be willing to assume that the guilty people were more often able to pick up on this vibe, because they expect to be caught.

and this is the simplest of the things i "hear" from nature. It sounds kooky I know but i've had the wind blow a certain way and have a chill up my spine and suddenly realize something was wrong with my best friend and so I call them as soon as I can, and it has yet to ever be wrong...I tried to call it coincidence. It hasn't failed yet. Now I don't get it EVERY time the friend is needing me but every time i get the feeling one friend is needing me and I'll know which one.

Get a journal. If you really think your psychic write down every time you get an impression.

Then track how many times your right against how many times your not.

This will lean in your favor, but if you can get anywhere close to 75% while being honest with yourself, then maybe you have something.

2/3

That is not really a lot to ask under non controlled circumstances.

Then once your ready let me know, ill endorse you and maybe we can will a mill or two.

as I said I wanted it to be coincidence and it isn't fool proof I don't claim to will things, that is as reasonable as thinking little billy will get a new bike if he prays to God hard enough.

I am not trying to make fantastic claims that i'm special in any way. I believe we've all had some similar things happen. You've never had a time where you had gut instinct you followed and it has been right? This is what i am talking about.

Sure I have, I am just pointing out that if we analyze it we will know more about it. The first step is documentation.

Most occurrences I am willing to bet you have insider information, the subconscious remembers a lot of things our conscious doesn't.

I will agree with this. I think link to the "inner mind" as I call it at times has great potential for resourcing information we typically are unaware of...How about this for a question: Have you ever had knowledge of a task or artform for which you have never been exposed to in any great detail? An understanding of it greater than the novice expectations.

You also must analyze structure and form. If two things have the same characteristics then the brain can largely use the same apparati for the two tasks.

Also you must consider genetic machinery laid in waiting. Our species has traversed this path many times, who is to say what has not been built and laid there as a means to greater survival: instinct have you?

Fine point made. Experiments done on insects showed ... i can't remember the bug they used for the life of me (leech, roach, or worm) At any rate they would teach a bug a maze then kill it and feed it to other specimens and they had a statistically significant better time at doing the maze than ones of the control group.

So are you suggesting something along the lines of ancestral knowledge being carried genetically?


Perhaps knowledge turns into instinct even?

Not in the sense you take it. I have found no conclusive studies where ancestral knowledge in the way you have presented it has shown credibility, I would be interested to see any links you have for research.

Nevertheless function is wrote across the minds landscape, and with any stimulus imput comes an output of possibilities.