...God Created Us to Be Like Him...and to Have Fellowship With Him....

"keepthehope"....omniscience is not a requirement for an idol because an idol makes no claims of being a God ..

only the believers can make the claim of a God being omniscient ..but how would they know

"Sharpshooter" why blame Satan and not blame God for creating Satan ..if God is omniscient then he knew what would take place before he created Satan ...if God is not omniscient then it's still his fault for creating Satan and letting things get out of control ..but the question still comes down to ..why did God have a "need" to create Satan

"Sharpshooter" if God create the weakness in Man then why do Man have to be forgiven

"Sharpshooter" and would you also threathen torture and murder that company if they didn't do what you told them to do

"MorningSong" so everything Man does it's to be like God in order to have a fellowship with him? ...well that does explain geneocide

you must admit God didn't set very good examples of how to behave when he caused the great flood or kill all of Eqypt's first born

God does not have a need to create funch, he can't help but create - it is why he exist. at least my god. creation is the biggest part of his make up, he only does what he does because he is a creative force/source. Think of him as an infinite amoeba, that keeps dividing into more of himself - bringing more material into existence - or - as a vibrational entity that that brings forth an infinite number of vibrational frequencies of which some our senses are able to perceive. though most we are not.

In some of the universes we are now just becoming aware might exist outside our own, he is dormant - meaning no vibrations are taking place.

in those areas no thing exist, but here and others they do, though we cant see them as of yet. where there is vibration there are things.at some point this reality we experience will cease vibrating and other areas will begin to, and some type of reality will continue forever.
As to the biblical god - he is no more to me than a creation a vibrational being, but not THE SOURCE/FORCE. JMO. i will not respond to your answers so don't bother.

so "Tribo" you're saying that your God lack control over himself ..


you mean something like a dead-beat dad that make babies but don't take care of them


Vibrations...aka String Theory is only a theory ...also if no vibrations is taking place how are you being informed or know that it isn't since in such a stage even thought would cease ..did the God tell you this?...is it in the scriptures?...or it's just something you conjured up while watching PBS?


how can "no thing" exist unless it exist in "some thing" and wouldn't "some time" had to be there to know that there were "no thing"


"Tribo" ..as usually you wish to spew your beliefs and then instead of explaining them wish to run and hide ...still the same old "Tribo" ...try growing a pair

Nah, i was created with a pair just like you - still in good working order. Just not as large as 2 chrome steel Jupiter's like yours funch.

The force/source is no chaotic, but is unemotional in that respect, as i said creative only, bringing into existence that material necessary for creation. [including the biblical god] It's not a matter of lack of control, control is not necessary, for source to do what it does. If you want to think of him as a deadbeat dad - be my guest.
source could care less what anyone thinks. This thought is past string theory i don't believe in string theory, it is about vibrations waves/particles. And yes it is something i put thought into - i am not a scientist. that's why i said JMO.

Yes time was there but has nothing to do with the process of creation. No thing can exist if you understand no thing to mean - no created substance, [objects as we are able to understand or perceive with our limited senses]

Source is always there/everywhere. Think of it like this funch, they say we only use 10% of our brain [whether that's really the case or not - so does that mean the other 90% does not exist? No it means we cant see at this point its possibly active in some way Were not able to detect yet.

But we have our sight and touch etc, to be able to detect this 90% exist. Source is similar to that concept, but still not actually like that per se'.

Source exist everywhere at all times but is not vibrating [bringing forth creative material] everywhere at all times, thus it would "seem" [if you were able to see infinity] that there was nothing going on is some areas of infinity.

but source is still there, just not active on a level of vibration that is creating anything new[things objects] there at present. Think of it as being on call for active duty, your their ready to go when necessary waiting to be called to create when the signal is given - what is the signal? I haven't the foggiest.

It remains a vibrational source at all times in all universes and dimensions whether it is actively creating new dimensional objects or not.

If you find flaws withe concept then disreguard, im not pushing it on anyone , it satisfies my need to understand, whether you or others may think it's delusional or not. now go back to talking about the book god and have fun. I'm out of here -

this "no thing" people keep referring can only apply to unawareness and not to conscious or pantheist Gods

because once something notice that they exist in the realm of "no thing" they instantly become "A thing" or "that thing"

this is symbolized with the phrase "I AM" which represents awareness and in turn presses the fact that "no thing" no longer exist

Yes they do but not in the realm of perception as we know it - they exist but we are not able by our limited perception to know it. Neither you or i are capable of seeing, feeling, etc. all vibrations even though they exist. Therefore source exist whether were capable of being aware of its existance or not. This is not the traditional gods of men, this is the source of all matter and energy, and all else by means of vibrational occurence, it is source. No desires or emotions, no agenda's, no needs in the human terms of needs, it is simply that which brings forth creation.

God didn't create satan the way he is as we know of him, he became that way. He was created in the full pattern, top shelf if you will. I'm sure God knew that what transpired could happen, but he did it anyway, out of love, and then when satan fell, rather than destroy about 2/3 of his children, he destroyed that age, and created this one, where we have been born innocent, and given another chance even, to love one another, even as ourselves and to love God, or Not.
Don't know if I "blame" satan, more like I wonder, why ?

goes to show me that none of us, not one, is above making poor decisions.

"Tribo" if it is unseen and incomprehensible to the human senses then explain how you know it's there ...if you can't ..then doesn't your description falls more into the realm of paranoid schizophrenia

I havent read through the thread to see if this has already been discussed, but i have another question to add..

Why would an onmi-whateva God need people to worship him?

Or even, why would he need us to believe in him?

Wasn't it already understood that humanity and the earth were basically created for fun and to play with and destroy whenever the whim struck god? Its not at all different from the Greco/Roman pantheon and how those gods/goddesses played with humans and punished and rewarded them. After all, Christianity sprung up in the same area of the world practically. The only real difference is it's one male deity as opposed to several of both genders.

Its also completely incompatible with omniscience and god routinely demonstrates emotions such as anger and jealousy that one would not normally associate with a supreme, perfect being but instead a human asshol-

"Sharpshooter" if God is omniscient then yes he did create Satan to act the way Satan did ...being omniscient means that God had time to pre-meditate his actions but to commit to the action anyway shows brazen irresponsibility on God's part...

to create an all powerful supposedly evil entity as Satan and unleash it upon the human race and knowing ahead of time what that decision would result in ..is not an act of Love ..it's an act of indifference

Sharp, Satan is a coping mechanism for Christians. Essentially, when the religion was in its infancy, there was no Satan. The problem that these early Christians had was that if there was no "evil being" or something that personified pure evil on earth, the Christians would be forced to assume that god did everything and was responsible for all the horrible events that occurred on earth and this would include terrible, despicable acts of cruelty.

So that led to the invention of Satan to create a duality. It would also free the concept of a "perfect source of goodness" for god to embody because you could then blame everything on this Satan critter.

Well Satan and women, lets not forget.

whether God create people to worship love or to despise him ...it all comes down to one thing ..why did a God that supposedly want or need for naught ...
"need" to? ..because a God that has "needs" is not a true God

Nope - it falls into the realm of paranormal insight.

sorry "tribo" but remember your words below



"Tribo"..that "etc".. means your paranormal insight equates to paranoid schizophrenia

that is what always happen when a person tries to make their God unseen unreachable and incomprehensible to the human senses ..they in fact disproves the existence of that God and enter delusion