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Topic: why would a God have the "need" to create
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 02:55 PM
why would a omnipotent omniscience omniscient omni-whatever entity lack in it's existence that it would have a need to create ...the addiction of "want" and "need" are for those that lack control over themselves or their environment ..so why would a God have the need to create ... .... this is one of those questions that when asked no believer seem to be able to answer it

ljcc1964 Joined Fri 10/19/07 Posts: 8298	Wed 11/12/08 03:03 PM
Who said God "needed" to create us? Your question tries to answer itself by drawing a conclusion that is not supported. You have no evidence to indicate that there is "need" involved.

Ted14621 Joined Mon 01/07/08 Posts: 2173	Wed 11/12/08 03:12 PM
Who said God "needed" to create us? Your question tries to answer itself by drawing a conclusion that is not supported. You have no evidence to indicate that there is "need" involved. Good answer... How 'bout He wanted to share love

BigGlenn Joined Thu 11/30/06 Posts: 4877	Wed 11/12/08 03:16 PM
Ask him yourself.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 03:42 PM
Who said God "needed" to create us? Your question tries to answer itself by drawing a conclusion that is not supported. You have no evidence to indicate that there is "need" involved. "Ijcc" ..believers claim that God creates ...God either need to create or God didn't need to create but felt the need to create anyway .. ...the question ask if there is any other options beside the "need" or "want" ..if you have no other options then it logical to conclude that God has"need" which brings us back to the original question ...why would a God that according to believers supposely want for naught have "need"

ljcc1964 Joined Fri 10/19/07 Posts: 8298	Wed 11/12/08 03:55 PM Edited by ljcc1964 on Wed 11/12/08 03:57 PM
Who said God "needed" to create us? Your question tries to answer itself by drawing a conclusion that is not supported. You have no evidence to indicate that there is "need" involved. "Ijcc" ..believers claim that God creates ...God either need to create or God didn't need to create but felt the need to create anyway .. ...the question ask if there is any other options beside the "need" or "want" ..if you have no other options then it logical to conclude that God has"need" which brings us back to the original question ...why would a God that according to believers supposely want for naught have "need" I still do not understand where you get the idea that God had a "need" to create us. You seem to be stuck on the "need" factor. Haven't you ever done something that you didn't "need" to do? The first thing that we need to understand about God...is that we only have a human understanding of someone who isn't human. Therefore...we just have to realize that we CAN'T understand him. His ways are not our ways. To assume that God thinks like you or me.....or to think we could really understand His motives....is very much like being a two year old trying to understand the actions of its parent. So really....the answer to your question is that we can't possibly know fully the mind of God. My suggestion is to open a dialog....and get to know Him. My best guess is....ask yourself why does any person seek to create a new life? Why would it be all that different for God? Gotta scram....I'll catch ya all later!!

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 04:11 PM
Good answer... How 'bout He wanted to share love "Ted" if the universe is supposely God then wouldn't God only be sharing with himself .... also to "want" to share love... doesn't explain why God has the "need" to do so

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 04:17 PM
Ask him yourself. "BigGlenn" ..I've notice that if God's believers can't answer the question neither can he

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 11/12/08 04:33 PM Edited by tribo on Wed 11/12/08 04:36 PM
I think the question should be: why did god have a need to create Funches so that he would grow up ask questions like why his creator has a NEED to create.

cliteeter Joined Wed 11/12/08 Posts: 20	Wed 11/12/08 04:44 PM
he was probobly lonely! he probobly still is!

hunky62 Joined Mon 03/10/08 Posts: 1894	Wed 11/12/08 04:49 PM
It's so good to see the level of intellect on this site has remained at such a LOW level...otherwise it would blow Darwin's theory of evolution that we evolved over time from apes. 'Cause...It sure doesn't make a very good argument for INTELLIGENT design...

cliteeter Joined Wed 11/12/08 Posts: 20	Wed 11/12/08 04:51 PM
It's so good to see the level of intellect on this site has remained at such a LOW level...otherwise it would blow Darwin's theory of evolution that we evolved over time from apes. 'Cause...It sure doesn't make a very good argument for INTELLIGENT design... thats a pretty hunky statement! do all of us humans fit into your hasty generalization? or just the ones you don't agree with?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 04:57 PM
I still do not understand where you get the idea that God had a "need" to create us. You seem to be stuck on the "need" factor. Haven't you ever done something that you didn't "need" to do? The first thing that we need to understand about God...is that we only have a human understanding of someone who isn't human. Therefore...we just have to realize that we CAN'T understand him. His ways are not our ways. To assume that God thinks like you or me.....or to think we could really understand His motives....is very much like being a two year old trying to understand the actions of its parent. So really....the answer to your question is that we can't possibly know fully the mind of God. My suggestion is to open a dialog....and get to know Him. My best guess is....ask yourself why does any person seek to create a new life? Why would it be all that different for God? Gotta scram....I'll catch ya all later!! "ljcc" ...this question is not about knowing the mind of God ..it's only logical to think that a God has no needs which usually comes with the claim of being eternal.. the questions is merely asking so why do this God have needs

cliteeter Joined Wed 11/12/08 Posts: 20	Wed 11/12/08 05:08 PM
I still do not understand where you get the idea that God had a "need" to create us. You seem to be stuck on the "need" factor. Haven't you ever done something that you didn't "need" to do? The first thing that we need to understand about God...is that we only have a human understanding of someone who isn't human. Therefore...we just have to realize that we CAN'T understand him. His ways are not our ways. To assume that God thinks like you or me.....or to think we could really understand His motives....is very much like being a two year old trying to understand the actions of its parent. So really....the answer to your question is that we can't possibly know fully the mind of God. My suggestion is to open a dialog....and get to know Him. My best guess is....ask yourself why does any person seek to create a new life? Why would it be all that different for God? Gotta scram....I'll catch ya all later!! "ljcc" ...this question is not about knowing the mind of God ..it's only logical to think that a God has no needs which usually comes with the claim of being eternal.. the questions is merely asking so why do this God have needs God told me he just liked to watch! Maybe thats why the "fairy's" are actually a notch above the angels

ljcc1964 Joined Fri 10/19/07 Posts: 8298	Wed 11/12/08 05:54 PM Edited by ljcc1964 on Wed 11/12/08 05:55 PM
I still do not understand where you get the idea that God had a "need" to create us. You seem to be stuck on the "need" factor. Haven't you ever done something that you didn't "need" to do? The first thing that we need to understand about God...is that we only have a human understanding of someone who isn't human. Therefore...we just have to realize that we CAN'T understand him. His ways are not our ways. To assume that God thinks like you or me.....or to think we could really understand His motives....is very much like being a two year old trying to understand the actions of its parent. So really....the answer to your question is that we can't possibly know fully the mind of God. My suggestion is to open a dialog....and get to know Him. My best guess is....ask yourself why does any person seek to create a new life? Why would it be all that different for God? Gotta scram....I'll catch ya all later!! "ljcc" ...this question is not about knowing the mind of God ..it's only logical to think that a God has no needs which usually comes with the claim of being eternal.. the questions is merely asking so why do this God have needs Well...first we would have to establish that God does indeed "need". And until you do that....we cannot proceed with discovering why that need exists. So I tell you what....show me the evidence that God needs something...anything...and THEN we can discuss why.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 05:58 PM
I think the question should be: why did god have a need to create Funches so that he would grow up ask questions like why his creator has a NEED to create. "Tribo" yes that a pretty cool way to re-phrase it but it still comes to the same question ...why do God have a "need"

Botcher Joined Tue 11/06/07 Posts: 14	Wed 11/12/08 05:58 PM
God created us with Free Will... when we discovered sin we found the difficulties of sinfulness... covetousness and emptiness...want and need. We are always looking for something else, something new, something better because we can't really find anything imperfect that fills the God-shaped void in us.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 05:59 PM
he was probobly lonely! he probobly still is! God had Jesus and the holy spirit to keep him compnay

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Wed 11/12/08 06:02 PM
It's so good to see the level of intellect on this site has remained at such a LOW level...otherwise it would blow Darwin's theory of evolution that we evolved over time from apes. 'Cause...It sure doesn't make a very good argument for INTELLIGENT design... it doesn't speak much for the designer either

tribo Joined Mon 05/12/08 Posts: 5577	Wed 11/12/08 06:03 PM
I think the question should be: why did god have a need to create Funches so that he would grow up ask questions like why his creator has a NEED to create. "Tribo" yes that a pretty cool way to re-phrase it but it still comes to the same question ...why do God have a "need" see ljcc1964's question to you - answer it first - where does it say in the book he had or has a need?