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Topic: Spreading The Wealth The Obama Way
Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 10/27/08 03:14 PM
I totally agree. Im now where near weathy and the middle class people do work hard if not harder than the rich but i do not think the government should be talking money from the wealthy and giving it to less weathy people. That totally takes away from the american dream. He will tax people making over $250,000 a tax of 3% of what they made over $250,000. That will be about 5% of the population. He will give tax cuts to the 95% of the people working that make under $250,000.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Mon 10/27/08 03:15 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout".

pingpong Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 167	Mon 10/27/08 03:16 PM
the only thing that is gonna help the middle class is to increase the value of the dollar. to stop importing and do more exporting. i dont mind paying taxes...just give me my dollar not 25 cents Yeah, I agree. And I also think that a living wage will do a lot more to fight poverty than just tax cuts and food stamps, although those help. I don't think either of us are gonna get what we wish for, tho.

pingpong Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 167	Mon 10/27/08 03:16 PM
let me just throw something out here sooo you're saying a nurse works less hard than the ceo making $250,000/yr and therefore shouldnt be accorded the inalienable human right of healthcare which she cant afford? the garbage collector works "less hard" than say... paris hilton and therefore should pay a greater proportion of his salary to penalize him for his laziness?? while paris hilton buys clothes for her dog? Isn't the notion that people who make less than $250,000 are somehow lazy and less worthy of being allowed human rights elitist? if i make $40,000/year as a school teacher and my government took $20,000 from both I and the next guy who made $300,000... and tells me i should "work harder" if i want the benefit of being able to not having to give up buying dinner for my kids so i dont die in a hospital waiting for care... i'd say that was completely absurd and pack up and move AMEN.

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 10/27/08 03:16 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here...

cottonelle Joined Fri 06/27/08 Posts: 3594	Mon 10/27/08 03:19 PM
This whole "Spread the Wealth" bashing is nothing but a ploy. I am surprised how many middle class working people are defending the wealthy. They must be either ignorant or easily brainwashed. might as well, we`re giving them a "bail out package"

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Mon 10/27/08 03:20 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here... Write down: If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class and not middle class.The vast majority of Americans are lower class but think they are middle class.Its called false class identification.

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 10/27/08 03:22 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here... Write down: If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class and not middle class.The vast majority of Americans are lower class but think they are middle class.Its called false class identification.

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Mon 10/27/08 03:23 PM Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Mon 10/27/08 03:24 PM
The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home.

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Mon 10/27/08 03:23 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here... Write down: If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class and not middle class.The vast majority of Americans are lower class but think they are middle class.Its called false class identification. I am working poor class.

pingpong Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 167	Mon 10/27/08 03:24 PM
BUT it wasnt the waiters money.. it belonged to the customer...the diner The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home. Even the guys from Reservoir Dogs understand this!

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 10/27/08 03:24 PM
BUT it wasnt the waiters money.. it belonged to the customer...the diner The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home.

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 10/27/08 03:24 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here... Write down: If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class and not middle class.The vast majority of Americans are lower class but think they are middle class.Its called false class identification. damn !!...I never knew any of this...and I thought they said you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks...tell me more...

catwoman96 Joined Thu 08/14/08 Posts: 5848	Mon 10/27/08 03:24 PM
The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home. so you only got 5 bucks for a tip..u would divide it between the waiter and the homeless guy??

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 10/27/08 03:25 PM
The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home. so you only got 5 bucks for a tip..u would divide it between the waiter and the homeless guy?? Why not?

ImDavid Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 1403	Mon 10/27/08 03:26 PM
whom should they guy have helped then?? the waitress...cause she is working and trying to support herself?? or should he have helped the homeless guy? becasue who knows when he will eat again?? If he only had enough money to do one of the two, and he wanted to help the homeless guy, he should have eaten at home. Tipping is part of eating out in the United States. Uh, no... Tipping is never mandatory. Why would anyone want to tip for lousy service?

ddn122 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 12855	Mon 10/27/08 03:26 PM
it won't matter ...if you don't have a job!!!! I totally agree. Im now where near weathy and the middle class people do work hard if not harder than the rich but i do not think the government should be talking money from the wealthy and giving it to less weathy people. That totally takes away from the american dream. He will tax people making over $250,000 a tax of 3% of what they made over $250,000. That will be about 5% of the population. He will give tax cuts to the 95% of the people working that make under $250,000.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Mon 10/27/08 03:28 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here... Write down: If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class and not middle class.The vast majority of Americans are lower class but think they are middle class.Its called false class identification. damn !!...I never knew any of this...and I thought they said you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks...tell me more... You should go back to college dude

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Mon 10/27/08 03:28 PM Edited by cutelildevilsmom on Mon 10/27/08 03:31 PM
The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home. so you only got 5 bucks for a tip..u would divide it between the waiter and the homeless guy?? I'm guessing this diner doesn't tip on a regular basis but I usually pay by debit card so I would give cash to the homeless guy and tip the waiter with my debit.If I had to divide it,I would at least let the waiter know what was going on.The scenario presented in the OP shows the waiter was f@#$ked over because of his political views and the diner, obviously a McCain supporter ,was being a vindictive.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Mon 10/27/08 03:29 PM Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 10/27/08 03:29 PM
The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. Rich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout. once again...wow !!! Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class. ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes... Write down "Golden Parachutes" and "Bailout". okay...got it...tell me more...you're givin' me gold here... Write down: If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class and not middle class.The vast majority of Americans are lower class but think they are middle class.Its called false class identification. I am working poor class. Working class= lower class