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Topic: Spreading The Wealth The Obama Way
MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:01 PM




(Sent to me by the way... didn't actually do this myself)


Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read: 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept.

He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $5 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more.

The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.



brilliant !!!
laugh Not really.laugh It done got smacked down about 5 timeslaugh


not by me...:banana:
:laughing: Of course not:laughing:

catwoman96's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:01 PM
BUT it wasnt the waiters money..

it belonged to the customer...the diner

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:01 PM

The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.
laugh Whats that got to do with rich people paying taxes?laugh

pingpong's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:02 PM

The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.

pingpong's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:03 PM

Just because someone is homeless doesn't make them less worthy of help.


Agreed.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:07 PM


The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.
happyRich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout.laugh

catwoman96's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:07 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Mon 10/27/08 03:09 PM


The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.


point being were are in an ecomnomic crisis here. do we give MORE to the POOR??????

or do we give more to the middle class?
or to the upper class???
who should get more taxes?? more tax breaks??

if u r rich or poor...either way.....ya got it better than i do right now today. much better medical benefits and more time with your children. im just like a waitress who tries everyday

Giocamo's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:08 PM



The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.
happyRich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout.laugh


once again...wow !!!

BrewCrew22's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:09 PM
I totally agree. Im now where near weathy and the middle class people do work hard if not harder than the rich but i do not think the government should be talking money from the wealthy and giving it to less weathy people. That totally takes away from the american dream.

Winx's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:09 PM



The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.


point being where are in an ecomnomic crisis here. do we give MORE to the POOR??????

or do we give more to the middle class?
who should get more taxes??

if u r rich or poor...either way.....ya got it better than i do right now today. much better medical benefits and more time with your children. im just like a waitress who tried everyday


That is what Obama's trying to do. Help the middle class.

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Mon 10/27/08 03:10 PM

laugh Does any waiter make more than a quarter million a year?laugh

exactly.

no photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:10 PM
This whole "Spread the Wealth" bashing is nothing but a ploy.

I am surprised how many middle class working people are defending the wealthy.

They must be either ignorant or easily brainwashed.


MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:11 PM




The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.
happyRich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout.laugh


once again...wow !!!
laugh Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class.laugh

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Mon 10/27/08 03:12 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 10/27/08 03:16 PM


laugh Does any waiter make more than a quarter million a year?laugh

exactly.


I totally agree. Im now where near weathy and the middle class people do work hard if not harder than the rich but i do not think the government should be talking money from the wealthy and giving it to less weathy people. That totally takes away from the american dream.

No it does not. Give me a pay check of 251,000 a year and I will gladly give more.

At the end I will still make WAY more then I am now. WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY more.

Increasing my pay by 14X then increasing my taxation by 100% would still net me a HUGE increase in pay.

It really just comes down to greed. Rich have been getting richer, poor poorer, this to me is just a way to help stimulate from the bottom up, bought time we have some economics that aren't trickle down.

That would be a great dream.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:12 PM

I totally agree. Im now where near weathy and the middle class people do work hard if not harder than the rich but i do not think the government should be talking money from the wealthy and giving it to less weathy people. That totally takes away from the american dream.
laugh Its wrong to take money from the less wealthy and give it to the more wealthy which is exactly what the republicans have been doing for 8 yearslaugh

catwoman96's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:12 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Mon 10/27/08 03:12 PM
the only thing that is gonna help the middle class is to increase the value of the dollar.

to stop importing and do more exporting.

i dont mind paying taxes...just give me my dollar not 25 cents

Giocamo's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:13 PM





The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.
happyRich people got more money because they inherited it, and they sent our jobs overseas, and bankrupted the credit system, and the government gave them OUR money as a bailout.laugh


once again...wow !!!
laugh Yeah thats what Ive been saying for 8 years as the super rich upperclass has been redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the upper class.laugh


ohhhhhhhhhh....so that's what's been going on....tell me more...I'm taking notes...

pingpong's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:14 PM



The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes.


Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work.


point being were are in an ecomnomic crisis here. do we give MORE to the POOR??????

or do we give more to the middle class?
or to the upper class???
who should get more taxes?? more tax breaks??

if u r rich or poor...either way.....ya got it better than i do right now today. much better medical benefits and more time with your children. im just like a waitress who tries everyday


You don't have to mkake a choice between helping the middle class or helping the poor.

Anyway, I don't know what you do, but it's the poor that generally don't have the luxury of things like medical benefits and time with their children.

JasmineInglewood's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:14 PM
let me just throw something out here

sooo you're saying a nurse works less hard than the ceo making $250,000/yr and therefore shouldnt be accorded the inalienable human right of healthcare which she cant afford?

the garbage collector works "less hard" than say... paris hilton and therefore should pay a greater proportion of his salary to penalize him for his laziness?? while paris hilton buys clothes for her dog?

Isn't the notion that people who make less than $250,000 are somehow lazy and less worthy of being allowed human rights elitist?

if i make $40,000/year as a school teacher and my government took $20,000 from both I and the next guy who made $300,000... and tells me i should "work harder" if i want the benefit of being able to not having to give up buying dinner for my kids so i dont die in a hospital waiting for care... i'd say that was completely absurd and pack up and move

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 10/27/08 03:14 PM

This whole "Spread the Wealth" bashing is nothing but a ploy.

I am surprised how many middle class working people are defending the wealthy.

They must be either ignorant or easily brainwashed.


:smile: Its a phenomenon called "False Class Identification".:smile: Most people think they are middle class but actually they are lower class.:smile:If you have to work almost everyday to pay your bills, then you are lower class.:smile:

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