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Topic: What do you think of Gay Marriage ?
tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:49 PM




Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it.

Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc.





I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs.


Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that !
However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there.

Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged !

Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


gay and gay marriage is not a religious issue. Same-sex couples is a social issue, not a religious one!

SportsNut2007's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:52 PM





Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it.

Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc.





I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs.


Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that !
However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there.

Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged !

Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


gay and gay marriage is not a religious issue. Same-sex couples is a social issue, not a religious one!


You are soooooo wrong about this point.
It's all over the Bible...as is every social issue
in the book...lol.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:52 PM


Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


how about when a toronto high school teacher was beaten to death, by toronto high school students for the sole reason his being a gay man?

how about when adolescents are questioning their own sexual identities and may have discovered that they are gay and/or lesbian and are depressed and/or agonizing?

isn't it the duty of the school to ensure that all students are treated equally, fairly, without contempt and to help instill in them a great sense of self-esteem, value and worth?



Yes, it's the duty of the school to make sure these kids are safe. However, it is not the duty of the school to tell my son or daughter that "gay marriage" is ok. What really matters is what these kids are being taught at home.


Schools aren't going to say it ok, but just that it exists... what about those children that have same sex parents that feel like they are different because they dont have a mom or a dad... why is it wrong to explain that someone parents are the same sex. Why inform children about what is out in the world? Instead to completely sheltering them. My son is exposed to a long of things within his comprehension. He goes to my BGLAS (bisexuals, gays, lesbians, and allies in social work) meetings, where he is around individual of different orientations. Social issues are discussed. Why can't children be given all the information?

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Thu 10/16/08 12:52 PM

I support it. If they're stupid enough to want to get married who am I to say no. :wink:


OMg, that's my answer too!drinker

no photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:54 PM

Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it. ...


“Morality is the best of all devices for leading mankind by the nose”

Friedrich Nietzsche

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:54 PM






Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it.

Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc.





I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs.


Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that !
However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there.

Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged !

Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


gay and gay marriage is not a religious issue. Same-sex couples is a social issue, not a religious one!


You are soooooo wrong about this point.
It's all over the Bible...as is every social issue
in the book...lol.


Not everyone follows the bible, not everyone believes in God or god or different gods. This may have been made an issue for some religions, but for those individual whom have same-sex couples and are in relationships it isn't religious. Is all opposite-sex couples think that their relationship is a religious issue?... NO!

Jess642's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:55 PM
Who should get to choose who decides to commit their life, with whom?

Surely it needn't be up to me to decide who another falls in love with...

It is still unrecognised legally here in Australia, for same sex relationships...

Personally?

I have no right to decide...

SportsNut2007's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:56 PM



Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


how about when a toronto high school teacher was beaten to death, by toronto high school students for the sole reason his being a gay man?

how about when adolescents are questioning their own sexual identities and may have discovered that they are gay and/or lesbian and are depressed and/or agonizing?

isn't it the duty of the school to ensure that all students are treated equally, fairly, without contempt and to help instill in them a great sense of self-esteem, value and worth?



Yes, it's the duty of the school to make sure these kids are safe. However, it is not the duty of the school to tell my son or daughter that "gay marriage" is ok. What really matters is what these kids are being taught at home.


Schools aren't going to say it ok, but just that it exists... what about those children that have same sex parents that feel like they are different because they dont have a mom or a dad... why is it wrong to explain that someone parents are the same sex. Why inform children about what is out in the world? Instead to completely sheltering them. My son is exposed to a long of things within his comprehension. He goes to my BGLAS (bisexuals, gays, lesbians, and allies in social work) meetings, where he is around individual of different orientations. Social issues are discussed. Why can't children be given all the information?


Well...you only want your kid to have your point of view ?
If he's smart....he's figure out what you don't want him to know and resent you later.

SportsNut2007's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:57 PM







Well, in order to not start a debate about what homosexuality is or isn't, just know that "morally" I have a problem with it.

Now, do I hate gays? Do I begrudge them for being who they are? No, and I never would. I just don't agree with it. Just like some people don't agree with someone being a Christian, or not agreeing with someone who supports the NRA, etc.





I have a problem with this line of thinking. Just because we "morally" have a problem with a certain individual or group of people does not mean we should deny them basic rights. The KKK and is allowed to exist despite MANY people "morally" having a problem with their behavior and beliefs.


Yes...but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Gays have made progress despite the oppression posed against...I respect that !
However...I'm not going to like it when a gay couple sues my Church because they refused to allow them to get marriaged there.

Nor when the schools began teaching young boys that it's okay for two boys to get marriaged !

Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


gay and gay marriage is not a religious issue. Same-sex couples is a social issue, not a religious one!


You are soooooo wrong about this point.
It's all over the Bible...as is every social issue
in the book...lol.


Not everyone follows the bible, not everyone believes in God or god or different gods. This may have been made an issue for some religions, but for those individual whom have same-sex couples and are in relationships it isn't religious. Is all opposite-sex couples think that their relationship is a religious issue?... NO!


You brought it up.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:57 PM
The link below should take you to a lecture done by John Corvino. He is a professor at Wayne State University. He also travels with one of the individual from Focus on the Family and goes all over the country and debates homosexuality and religion and morality.


http://www.lib.wayne.edu/services/media/lectures/corvino.php

RKISIT's photo
Thu 10/16/08 12:59 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Thu 10/16/08 01:08 PM
gay marriage is one of the least things im concerned about,but if they want to get married,let'em. save us strait tax payers money on gays and activist takin this issue to court.

Jill298's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:00 PM
Tanya... It is a religious issue for the majority of people. They believe it goes against "God". I'm not saying it's that way for everyone, but many many people believe it's wrong because of their religions. Religions also have such an impact on "social issues" as what has been determined to be right or wrong thru the ages.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:00 PM




Schools shouldn't be teaching it at all. Gay and gay marriage is a religious issue. Schools shouldn't get involved in religious issues.


how about when a toronto high school teacher was beaten to death, by toronto high school students for the sole reason his being a gay man?

how about when adolescents are questioning their own sexual identities and may have discovered that they are gay and/or lesbian and are depressed and/or agonizing?

isn't it the duty of the school to ensure that all students are treated equally, fairly, without contempt and to help instill in them a great sense of self-esteem, value and worth?



Yes, it's the duty of the school to make sure these kids are safe. However, it is not the duty of the school to tell my son or daughter that "gay marriage" is ok. What really matters is what these kids are being taught at home.


Schools aren't going to say it ok, but just that it exists... what about those children that have same sex parents that feel like they are different because they dont have a mom or a dad... why is it wrong to explain that someone parents are the same sex. Why inform children about what is out in the world? Instead to completely sheltering them. My son is exposed to a long of things within his comprehension. He goes to my BGLAS (bisexuals, gays, lesbians, and allies in social work) meetings, where he is around individual of different orientations. Social issues are discussed. Why can't children be given all the information?


Well...you only want your kid to have your point of view ?
If he's smart....he's figure out what you don't want him to know and resent you later.


You didn't get the point. The point is that my son is expose to a variety of things and point of view. He is free to make his own choices, but in order to do that he needs information for all sides. I am a Christian too! My son attends church too! It is his decision if he wants to be come Christian or Buddist or Muslim or whatever religion or no religion at! My point was why shelter your children from providing all sides of an issue or all sides of life!

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:02 PM



gay and gay marriage is not a religious issue. Same-sex couples is a social issue, not a religious one!


You are soooooo wrong about this point.
It's all over the Bible...as is every social issue
in the book...lol.


Not everyone follows the bible, not everyone believes in God or god or different gods. This may have been made an issue for some religions, but for those individual whom have same-sex couples and are in relationships it isn't religious. Is all opposite-sex couples think that their relationship is a religious issue?... NO!


You brought it up.


I was commenting on someone else with it being a religious issue and I explain why it is not a religious issue.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:05 PM

Tanya... It is a religious issue for the majority of people. They believe it goes against "God". I'm not saying it's that way for everyone, but many many people believe it's wrong because of their religions. Religions also have such an impact on "social issues" as what has been determined to be right or wrong thru the ages.


But just because the church says its right, does that make it right? The catholic church said that the crusades were a 'right and just' war? Was it really? I don't think so. The church/religion has always waved around its power to influence things. Now when I say church and religion I am saying their governing bodies, not the fundimentals of the religion.

RKISIT's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:06 PM
remember god created adam and eve,not adam and stevelaugh laugh laugh jk ,im not religious

papersmile's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:08 PM

I think everyone should have the right to pursue the genitals of their choiceflowerforyou


laugh


Yes, it's the duty of the school to make sure these kids are safe. However, it is not the duty of the school to tell my son or daughter that "gay marriage" is ok. What really matters is what these kids are being taught at home.


but what if the child is gay and they are being taught in the home that it's wrong?

tanyaann's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:09 PM

remember god created adam and eve,not adam and stevelaugh laugh laugh jk ,im not religious


You are lucky you aren't within arms reach or I'd smack ya! :tongue: laugh

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Thu 10/16/08 01:10 PM

remember god created adam and eve,not adam and stevelaugh laugh laugh jk ,im not religious


sez who? Animals have been known to display homosexual behavior too..so its not like homosexuality isnt normal...
huh

blackxbird's photo
Thu 10/16/08 01:14 PM
I'm not sure there's a way to debate this issue without also debating homosexuality itself (i.e., whether it is a "choice" or not), which can get very heated and emotional and may result in hurt feelings or name calling.

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