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tribo.......
how i am is of no consequence to me, and the things spoken "obviously" from your response are felt and seen as "me doing or feeling bad", lol.... but truly this means nothing, as for me to speak such things, being different than any other, as we all are, give no light into the "feeling" that i have to write such..... divide is of the only evil that i see, UNEQUAL, and what creates it then create evil, and anything that "may expose" this root that create "****" i will always speak, awaiting some other wisdom to correct me, and tell me how it will not create divide of one, and then divide for all.... i do not despise religion, not any of them, but the interpretations taken, when anything is "found" from seeking most "truth for one", which is truth found to "prove oneself right" will have to be of divide, as they were founded and believed first thru the sight of ONE, and of ONE, and to WISH TO BE RIGHT..... seems the very meaning of the statement "to seek to save "ONE'S life, is to lose it, but to lay it down, is to gain it...... is this to commit suicide, lol..... it would seem this is MOST ONLY SAYING, LOOK FOR THINGS BEYOND "ONE" WHICH IS TO SEE SELF MOST, AND SEE WHAT WILL MAKE LOVE, AND PEACE, AND UNTIY, AND BROTHERHOOD FOR ALL, NOT JUST FOR ONESELF, LOL..... how could there be even peace between a man and women, if BOTH are looking to satisfy self most, expecting the other to treat with some definition of ONE, so it would only need to be I DO WHAT I WISH MOST, AND YOU DO WHAT YOU WISH MOST, AND IF THESE TWO THINGS AND WAYS ARE COMPATIBLE, AND THERE IS STILL LIKING OF TOGTHERNESS, THEN SO BE IT........ how are the teachings of religion thus far not against such things, lol...... they teach to try to make others match some definition of GOOD FOR ONESELF as guide for others...... please.....divide created in all things, which is no true love to ever be felt or found, all in the supposed name of brotherhood, but brotherhood of ONLY what "gives to self"..... other "believers that believe the same, of course give the same, and pat each other on the back, lol..... is this true brotherhood for all, lol...... hell, i can go find brotherhood in many things, if i seek to be treated by others to satisfy self emotions most, and seek to find what i "like for me most", lol....... gangs....churches.....KKK......AA......AN..... IS BROTHERHOOD THEN THE GREATEST TRUTH, lol..... SEEKING AFIRMATION OF "ONE" FROM WORDS WISHED TO BE HEARD, HAS TO ALWAYS CREATE MISERY FOR "ONE, AS IT CANNOT "SEE" MORE THAN "ONE", WHICH IS INDEED THE LONLIEST NUMBER IF "ONE" IS SOUGHT MOST, AND NOT COMMON GOOD AND PEACE...... ideas....ignorant spoken ideas......that is all, bwhich have no meaning except as "devils advocate"...... i wish for untity of ALL, for whatever damn cursed reason, and only say what is my mind, being a singular i know, but then what else do we have but our mouth, that is creating each day all that is in front of us, whether it is noticed or not........ all the crap of things spoken down thru history have created ALL WE HAVE NOW...... was it not WORDS that created the NAZI PARTY, AND MILLIONS OF DEATHS..... was it not words that created the GREAT INQUISITION, and again killed millions..... i take very seriously these type of words I SPEAK, and look deeply into what they will create, even before any come out of the mouth, and always welcome and wish to be wrong, as to me this is to learn more...... if you believe me to "speak" as a "god" tribo, then tell me how what is spoken will not create the things i percieve they will, lol.... is it that they are percieved as harsh? mean? arrogant? i do not look at motive of words to find the motive, as this is to never find the true motive, but what oneself would feel like to speak such words, as this way is looking thru onself for "comparison", and then surmizing based on own's own experience of all emotion, which will make any discount most words given enough time.... but indeed, to actually hear all words as TRUTH, provide a seeing of the truth of wordss, leaving any untruth falling to the wayside, which will inturn then show true motive..... i do konw this is as a parodox of the mind, lol....... perhaps........ if each face is unique, and each mind unique, then to assume what another "motive is" can only be done by assuming another as having the same brian, same heart, and would not this mean they should have then the same face, lol......... what words will create if believed if of doctrin, by seeing WHAT WILL THIS MAKE ME CHASE THE MOST, WHAT WILL THIS MAKE ME SEEK, WHAT WILL THIS MAKE BE AS MOST IMPORTANT IN LIFE, seems to be the only true way to evalute who and what one is, which is TOTALLY MADE BY WHAT ONE BELIEVE...... what is it? i can easily be as wrong as any other, but to me wrong is not bad, and in fact, no learing is EVER had until there is first LOVE OF BEING WRONG, INSTEAD OF HATE, AS THIS PROCLUDE ANYTHING FROM BEING HEARD IN TIME, SO NOTHING MORE CAN BE ADDED TO ONE'S OWN WISDOM IN TIME, LOL...... SO TRIBO, DO TELL, DO TELL, DO TELL, AS I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WISH TO HEAR "MOST" HOW WHAT I SAY IS WRONG, TO SEE, FOR ME TO TURN TO PROVE WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT! INDEED, IF I LOOK TO PROVE HOW ANYTHING YOU SAY IS WRONG, THEN THIS IS THE ****ING EASIEST THING IN THE UNIVERSE TO ACCOMPLISH, AS DATA IS INFINITE AND PERCEPTIONS ARE INFINITE, AND WHY THE "WORLD" IT WHERE IT IS AT, WITH BRAINS THAT SEEK TO PROVE ALL WRONG THAT OTHERS SAY, THAT CAN HEAR NOTHING THEN BUT WHAT MAKE "FEEL" GOOD......... **** FEELING GOOD..... GIVE ME MORE "ME WRONG" TO PROVE CORRECT SO I CAN FIND MORE TRUTH, OR GIVE ME DEATH...... PEACE MAN |
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splendidlife
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MS......MIRROR MIRROR...... actually it seems "god" hates it when one seeks him IN THE CONTEXT THIS IS WRITTEN IN, IN THE WAY THIS IS INTERPRETED, as this thinking thru belief with such falicy of self seeking interpretations cuts one off from all their neighbors, and family, and friends, as if this is said, it is thought that "god" is off somewhere else, and it make one disregard people, the ones right in front of them, that ARE HIM..... was it not written, what one has done unto the least of these, one has done unto me, which would be the same as to say, to seek me, seek your NEIGHBORS, AND FAMILY, AND FRIENDS, AND STOP IGNORING WHAT THEY SAY AND HEAR THEM AND STOP THINKING YOU ARE SERVING ME BY DOING THIS..... if the god of text wish for all to seek "him", then why the hell did he say to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF..... if it said love god more than anything else, than the REST OF THE TEXT MUST ALSO BE INCLUDED, WHICH SAID GOD REST IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, IN THY ENEMIES, IN THY NEIGHBORS.... ARE NOT ANY THAT DO NOT SUBSCIBE TO SUCH DIVISIVENESS AND SELF SEKKING INTERPRETATIONS CONSIDERED AS "ENEMIES" TO ANY "PROFESSED" CHRISTIAN, AS ALL THAT PROFESS, ARE SELF SEEKERS, OR THERE IS NO WAY PROFESSION COULD "EVER" BE MADE, IF SELF WAS "LAST", AS THIS WOULD MAKE NO SEEING OR SPEAKING OR THINKING OF SELF, LOL.... if the god of text wish one to seek him, this is true, but where did he say he lived, other than IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, SO SEEK TO CONNECT TO THE HEARTS OF OTHER MANKIND, LOL....... oh, but forgot, the interpretations of "seeking him" are seen thru eyes of self righteoussness, that, SEEK FOR SELF, AS IS NOT SEEKING GOD "ALL FOR ONESELF".......TOTALLY HOW IS THIS NOT TOTAL SELF GREED AND SEEKING SELF MOST, AND SUCH AS THESE COME TO EVEN DISREGARD THEIR OWN FAMILIES MOST, AS ALL THAT IS DONE FOR THEM, IS NOT FOR THEM, BUT TO BE THE "GOOD" PERSON IN "GODS" EYES..... did it not say love thy neighbor AS THYSELF, LOL..... WHERE IS GOD......NOT IN THE SKY AS SOME FACE, AND WHY IT SAID NONE HAS EVER SEEN THE FACE OF GOD, AS TO SEE GOD IS TO SEE THE FACE OF ONE'S FAMILY, ONE'S FRIENDS, ONE'S NEIGHBORS...... was it not said that if there is one that is a teacher of the "church" the FAMILY OF ONE'S OWN MUST BE LOVED AS UNCONDITIONALLY, AS CHRIST LOVE MANKIND, WHICH IF ONE IS AS CHRIST, WILL THEY NOT LOVE "ALL" OF MANKIND THEN...... HOW THE HELL CAN ONE LOVE THEIR OWN FAMILY WITHOUT CONDITION IF THE NOTION THAT SEEKING "GOD" FIRST IS HELD TO AS SPOKEN WITH SUCH HALF INTERPRETATIONS...... make yourself first when god sit down at your table......NO WAY ONE PRODFESSED CHRISTION WOULD DO IT, AS OF COURSE, EACH SEEK FAVOR AND GRACES FROM THEIR GOD, and believe they would recognize him if he walked in, lol..... but such as these cannot see it is the "evil" guy at mcdonalds one got mad at today, the "rebellious" kid you ignore to go read your damn bible and atrend church services, while the kid is told how to "seek" god the same, making the child see many others as "evil" as well, and the wife that the "seeking hubby" tells what to do all day, as sees as "inspired" by satan, and the wife that "divorced" him because he was not giving what "i needed"....... the same old "bible" inspired drills of behaviour since these type interpretations have been coming down the piplines....... there is no way that this type thinking can naturally give if one's own family sits down, or the friend, or the neighbor, as they are as second, and ONESELF IS FIRST, AS ALL SEEKING GOD AND THE KINGDOM HAS TO MAKE THIS MOTIVE WITHIN, AS THE VERY NOTION OF SEEKING GOD FIRST "WITHOUT KNOWING HE IS IN ALL OTHERS" CANNOT CREATE ANYTHING BUT DISREGARD FOR FELLOW MANKIND, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN THE "FOLD" of the pharisees, that look down long noses at all neighbors, awaiting "god" to come and erase the evil doers...... even those within the "fold" are treated with "feigned goodness", as one believes that if they do not, god is displeased, and so such actions still come MOST from self seeking, so blindness to "all others" has no other choice but to be created, from such self seeking notions....... peace So... God rests in the hearts of man... It would stand to reason that one could seek god MOST directly through a connection with as many hearts as possible (why else are we here with one another?). If one is so busy seeking god for self by discounting others minds and hearts, one soon finds isolation. This doesn't actually seem like much of a peaceful solitude, really. To (admit it) live in such fear of one's own "badness" as to profess, act, display and force "godliness" is to lie to one's self and therefore further remove one's self from the heart of humanity. It's understandable that the only way one could survive in this mode of operation would be to staunchly dig one's heels into a position of further separation and decay. |
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 and here all i was asking was how you were, thanks for letting me know in such an eloquent way - 
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MS......MIRROR MIRROR...... actually it seems "god" hates it when one seeks him IN THE CONTEXT THIS IS WRITTEN IN, IN THE WAY THIS IS INTERPRETED, as this thinking thru belief with such falicy of self seeking interpretations cuts one off from all their neighbors, and family, and friends, as if this is said, it is thought that "god" is off somewhere else, and it make one disregard people, the ones right in front of them, that ARE HIM..... was it not written, what one has done unto the least of these, one has done unto me, which would be the same as to say, to seek me, seek your NEIGHBORS, AND FAMILY, AND FRIENDS, AND STOP IGNORING WHAT THEY SAY AND HEAR THEM AND STOP THINKING YOU ARE SERVING ME BY DOING THIS..... if the god of text wish for all to seek "him", then why the hell did he say to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF..... if it said love god more than anything else, than the REST OF THE TEXT MUST ALSO BE INCLUDED, WHICH SAID GOD REST IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, IN THY ENEMIES, IN THY NEIGHBORS.... ARE NOT ANY THAT DO NOT SUBSCIBE TO SUCH DIVISIVENESS AND SELF SEKKING INTERPRETATIONS CONSIDERED AS "ENEMIES" TO ANY "PROFESSED" CHRISTIAN, AS ALL THAT PROFESS, ARE SELF SEEKERS, OR THERE IS NO WAY PROFESSION COULD "EVER" BE MADE, IF SELF WAS "LAST", AS THIS WOULD MAKE NO SEEING OR SPEAKING OR THINKING OF SELF, LOL.... if the god of text wish one to seek him, this is true, but where did he say he lived, other than IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, SO SEEK TO CONNECT TO THE HEARTS OF OTHER MANKIND, LOL....... oh, but forgot, the interpretations of "seeking him" are seen thru eyes of self righteoussness, that, SEEK FOR SELF, AS IS NOT SEEKING GOD "ALL FOR ONESELF".......TOTALLY HOW IS THIS NOT TOTAL SELF GREED AND SEEKING SELF MOST, AND SUCH AS THESE COME TO EVEN DISREGARD THEIR OWN FAMILIES MOST, AS ALL THAT IS DONE FOR THEM, IS NOT FOR THEM, BUT TO BE THE "GOOD" PERSON IN "GODS" EYES..... did it not say love thy neighbor AS THYSELF, LOL..... WHERE IS GOD......NOT IN THE SKY AS SOME FACE, AND WHY IT SAID NONE HAS EVER SEEN THE FACE OF GOD, AS TO SEE GOD IS TO SEE THE FACE OF ONE'S FAMILY, ONE'S FRIENDS, ONE'S NEIGHBORS...... was it not said that if there is one that is a teacher of the "church" the FAMILY OF ONE'S OWN MUST BE LOVED AS UNCONDITIONALLY, AS CHRIST LOVE MANKIND, WHICH IF ONE IS AS CHRIST, WILL THEY NOT LOVE "ALL" OF MANKIND THEN...... HOW THE HELL CAN ONE LOVE THEIR OWN FAMILY WITHOUT CONDITION IF THE NOTION THAT SEEKING "GOD" FIRST IS HELD TO AS SPOKEN WITH SUCH HALF INTERPRETATIONS...... make yourself first when god sit down at your table......NO WAY ONE PRODFESSED CHRISTION WOULD DO IT, AS OF COURSE, EACH SEEK FAVOR AND GRACES FROM THEIR GOD, and believe they would recognize him if he walked in, lol..... but such as these cannot see it is the "evil" guy at mcdonalds one got mad at today, the "rebellious" kid you ignore to go read your damn bible and atrend church services, while the kid is told how to "seek" god the same, making the child see many others as "evil" as well, and the wife that the "seeking hubby" tells what to do all day, as sees as "inspired" by satan, and the wife that "divorced" him because he was not giving what "i needed"....... the same old "bible" inspired drills of behaviour since these type interpretations have been coming down the piplines....... there is no way that this type thinking can naturally give if one's own family sits down, or the friend, or the neighbor, as they are as second, and ONESELF IS FIRST, AS ALL SEEKING GOD AND THE KINGDOM HAS TO MAKE THIS MOTIVE WITHIN, AS THE VERY NOTION OF SEEKING GOD FIRST "WITHOUT KNOWING HE IS IN ALL OTHERS" CANNOT CREATE ANYTHING BUT DISREGARD FOR FELLOW MANKIND, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN THE "FOLD" of the pharisees, that look down long noses at all neighbors, awaiting "god" to come and erase the evil doers...... even those within the "fold" are treated with "feigned goodness", as one believes that if they do not, god is displeased, and so such actions still come MOST from self seeking, so blindness to "all others" has no other choice but to be created, from such self seeking notions....... peace So... God rests in the hearts of man... It would stand to reason that one could seek god MOST directly through a connection with as many hearts as possible (why else are we here with one another?). If one is so busy seeking god for self by discounting others minds and hearts, one soon finds isolation. This doesn't actually seem like much of a peaceful solitude, really. To (admit it) live in such fear of one's own "badness" as to profess, act, display and force "godliness" is to lie to one's self and therefore further remove one's self from the heart of humanity. It's understandable that the only way one could survive in this mode of operation would be to staunchly dig one's heels into a position of further separation and decay. The moment (even if for a fraction of a second) one allows them self to look beyond a position, there is more freedom... Even breathing seems to become easier. |
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and here all i was asking was how you were, thanks for letting me know in such an eloquent way -
in the old bud light tradition....love ya man 
but not one thought or idea back as critism, or anything you see as wrong? tell me i am right, and it makes me wish to wince, but tell me how i am wrong, it make me smile with glee, to seek to prove how you are correct, so i can get more smart...... come on man, i can take it..... critism if the food that make more wisdom, if it is always tried to be proven correct, with the same tenacity as tried to proven wrong, lol... and hell, the pain coming from proving all critism as wrong, is SO ****ING GREAT, AS BLINDNESS TO ALL WORDS IN TIME, IS TO WALK INTO PITS OF MISERY CREATED BY ONESELF, AS ALL LIKE SOON MANY, MANY, MANY WORDS ARE IGNNORED, WHICH IS TO THINK MANY, MANY, MANY OTHERS ARE STUPID, AND ONESELF AS WISE, WHICH IS NO FUN ATALL, LOL............. hell, the words of a 5th grader against oneself have to be proven correct, or one is soon dumber than a fifth grader, lol...... freedom of mind, and spirit, and body, indeed comes from proving all as correct...... truly seems dioblical, as what wish to prove itself as not good, lol....... seek to prove onself is good, it can always be done...... peace dear friend tribo......... |
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ahhh - i have no wish to decree your statements as wrong or incorrect - they are yours. this is what you feel and have come to conclusions on and i have nothing to offer you in a negative way - sorry, you'll have to settle for just being my freind!!
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ahhh - i have no wish to decree your statements as wrong or incorrect - they are yours. this is what you feel and have come to conclusions on and i have nothing to offer you in a negative way - sorry, you'll have to settle for just being my freind!!
damn....and i hoped and thought i could learn more from you today, lol...... if you truly are my friend tribo, then please hear my plea of you.... TREAT ME AS AN ENEMY, AND NEVER SPARE ME ANYTIME YOU SEE HOW WHAT I SAY COULD BE AS FLAWED LOGIC, AND TELL ME MOST THE DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT I SAY, AS I DO NOT WISH TO BE BLIND, AND FOLLOW MY NOTIONS OF "GOOD FEELINGS ALONE", AS THESE TO ME ARE THE BLIND GUIDE, AND ALL OTHER'S CRITISM IS ALL THAT I HAVE AS A TRUE GUIDE, TO PROVE AS CORRECT, TO LEARN MORE EACH DAY FROM ALL MY FRIENDS..... peace then to my friend that makes decree he is my friend, so would then certainly agree to do the only one thing i will ever ask of him...... peace |
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ahhh - i have no wish to decree your statements as wrong or incorrect - they are yours. this is what you feel and have come to conclusions on and i have nothing to offer you in a negative way - sorry, you'll have to settle for just being my freind!!
damn....and i hoped and thought i could learn more from you today, lol...... if you truly are my friend tribo, then please hear my plea of you.... TREAT ME AS AN ENEMY, AND NEVER SPARE ME ANYTIME YOU SEE HOW WHAT I SAY COULD BE AS FLAWED LOGIC, AND TELL ME MOST THE DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT I SAY, AS I DO NOT WISH TO BE BLIND, AND FOLLOW MY NOTIONS OF "GOOD FEELINGS ALONE", AS THESE TO ME ARE THE BLIND GUIDE, AND ALL OTHER'S CRITISM IS ALL THAT I HAVE AS A TRUE GUIDE, TO PROVE AS CORRECT, TO LEARN MORE EACH DAY FROM ALL MY FRIENDS..... peace then to my friend that makes decree he is my friend, so would then certainly agree to do the only one thing i will ever ask of him...... peace David, "MY FRIEND" i cannot understand you well enough to even comment on most of what you right, i do you no dis-service on purpose, it is extremely hard for me to understand you - unlike abra and some others- again i wish you well and hope others can fill this need you ask of me, but i cannot - sorry.
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The Light Of God
A life of problems I felt bound Often struggling I'd be found I sought a peace to rest my mind And leave these troubles far behind My life I'll change today I vow I'll live my life so I'll be proud For though I'm down I am not through And giving-ups too easy - I won't do I'll live life right through heart's desire And my old ways I will retire It's easy targets Satan seeks And no longer shall I be weak To help me get through each day I'll take more time for God and pray As with this poem I'll send a prayer And ask for me that He be there That He forgive when I've done wrong And He helps me to keep faith strong I will do my best to be prepared So when final breathes can not be spared May each day I live I do what's right By living life within God's light |
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thnx lar, i'm running out of things in the first 2 chapters of Gen, so i'll have to move on pretty soon - i know that will make you a little happier eh?  
I'm looking forward to moving on. Just as long as after we kill the horse we don't keep beating it. 
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ahhh - i have no wish to decree your statements as wrong or incorrect - they are yours. this is what you feel and have come to conclusions on and i have nothing to offer you in a negative way - sorry, you'll have to settle for just being my freind!!
damn....and i hoped and thought i could learn more from you today, lol...... if you truly are my friend tribo, then please hear my plea of you.... TREAT ME AS AN ENEMY, AND NEVER SPARE ME ANYTIME YOU SEE HOW WHAT I SAY COULD BE AS FLAWED LOGIC, AND TELL ME MOST THE DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT I SAY, AS I DO NOT WISH TO BE BLIND, AND FOLLOW MY NOTIONS OF "GOOD FEELINGS ALONE", AS THESE TO ME ARE THE BLIND GUIDE, AND ALL OTHER'S CRITISM IS ALL THAT I HAVE AS A TRUE GUIDE, TO PROVE AS CORRECT, TO LEARN MORE EACH DAY FROM ALL MY FRIENDS..... peace then to my friend that makes decree he is my friend, so would then certainly agree to do the only one thing i will ever ask of him...... peace David, "MY FRIEND" i cannot understand you well enough to even comment on most of what you right, i do you no dis-service on purpose, it is extremely hard for me to understand you - unlike abra and some others- again i wish you well and hope others can fill this need you ask of me, but i cannot - sorry.
David, I feel the same. I really do enjoy reading your posts if only for their almost poetic lyrical quality but I am afraid I am not qualified to understand them most of the time. Perhaps if I could hear your voice, the inflection would help but other than that, it can be a little bit convoluted. |
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