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This part shared earlier ,kept going thru my mind...keeping me up: "....Modern physical science (at least classical physics) was centered around the electro-magnetic spectrum, which included all the varieties of FORCE AND ENERGY IN NATURE— LIGHT, heat, sound, electricity, magnetism, chemical energy, etc.—everything except gravity and nuclear energy. LIGHT, of course, in a sense COVERS the WHOLE SPECTRUM, from long-wave-length infra-red to short-wave ultra-violet radiation, with the visible light spectrum OCCUPYING THE KEY CENTER, as it were. In a significant sense, LIGHT ENERGY is thus the MOST BASIC ENERGY OF ALL , and it is NOT surprising that the FIRST WORDS recorded by the living Word of God were: "LET THERE BE LIGHT" (Genesis 1:3). There were no "lights" as such at that point, however, until He said: "Let there be lights" (Genesis 1:14). Then, instantaneously appeared in the sky the two great lights for the earth and "the stars also" (Genesis 1:16) scattered throughout the vast cosmos. And all of these lights—and the light which they GENERATED ...AND.... SENT... FORTH to be "for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years" (Genesis 1:14)—would also SERVE.. LIFE... ITSELF.... through the many marvelous mechanisms it would ENERGIZE for Earth's coming inhabitants (PHOTOSYNTHESIS, etc.). Thus it is that: "In Him [that is, the Word of God] WAS LIFE; and the LIFE WAS THE LIGHT of men" (John 1:4). It then follows also that Christ is "the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world" (John 1:9). ``````````````````````` IN HIM WAS LIFE and the LIFE was the LIGHT of men. So Tribo..... to clearly answer your question : God Said, " Let there Be Light, and There was Light"... THEN God created the sun to GENERATE the Light...and to SUSTAIN LIFE!!! It all makes perfect sense. the only thing that makes sense is that you've come to your senses and accepted what i said as the the light talked of was a "CREATED" light! and not gods personal shekina light. That is what my continued resposes to you were about! as to the other, thats your take on it and i will respect that, just dont try to tell me that something as plain as day is some shrouded secret mystery i cant understand unless i accept god. repeat: god ""was"" the light? -answer NO!! God ""created"" the light? - answer - YES!!! end of story!! |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 09/16/08 03:05 PM
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Tribo.... In the Beginning God SAID,"Let There Be Light ,and There Was Light". Tribo....... the energy source light we have today is obviously not the Shikinah Glory Light of the Lord....cause no man could STAND before that kind of Light..but one day Believers WILL be able to, once More Stand in God's Glorious Light..just like Adam and Eve were able to do, before the fall. Adam and Eve lived in a perfect world, and were able to stand in God's Presence before the fall..and one day we believers will ONCE MORE be able to stand in God's Presence..where there will be no more night. But... back to the Beginning of Creation.....that Light that God called forth was energy light....BUT..... God's Glorious Light ALSO SHONE THEN...before Sin entered into the world. God is Called the TRUE Light of the World. And that TRUE Light Will One Day , be the ONLY Light that Will Shine ,in that Day, where there will be no more Night..and no more need for the sun. But The Word of God Goes Much Deeper than what we have shared here, Tribo....... as One studies the Word of God more and More, one will find even deeper meaning to God's Word. |
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Tribo..... God SAID, "Let there be Light"....so Yes, after pondering this more last night, I saw that the Light when God Said, "Let There Be Light" , was the Energy Source Light,NECCESSARY FOR LIFE .... and Not The Light Of His Glory ( NO MAN in his sin nature could STAND that Shikinah Glory Light, if that were so). HOWEVER......WHEN Believers DO One Day STAND in God's Presence ,We WILL Be Then ABLE to Stand in the LIGHT of HIS GLORY(Cause Jesus is the REAL Light of the World)....where there will be no more night . Be Blessed.... Thanks MS, that's all i was hoping you'd see, that it was not gods light, that's what the whole discussion was about. As to gods light- i have no problem with seeing it as you state in the book therefore no comment from me on this. I just hope in the future if i see something that is stated in such a way as to be taken literraly as this was that you accept that it is what it is. be it this, the book of revelations or what ever else i may run across as i read. ok? right now i'm giving thought to paul and jesus as comparing them with god and moses - lucyyyyy - you will have some splainin to do to ricky!! 
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Tribo...the depth of God's Word is mind boggling !!!!
Take for instance..."Light of Life".. No light..no life...on the physical plane as well as the spiritual..... Just the 1st chapter of Genesis alone, could be studied for YEARS, and one still would not have learnED alL there is to learn. HOW DEEP AND RICH IS GOD'S WORD!! THAT'S BECAUSE.... GOD AND HIS WORD ARE ONE. ALL I CAN DO IS STAND IN AWE....OF AN AWESOME GOD....AND HIS WORD!!! 
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Tue 09/16/08 03:29 PM
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Tribo did god ever mention the other planets in Genesis. Im looking that up now. I mean does he ever describe other large heavenly bodies anywhere at any time? Or ya know Moses that is in writing this down?
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Tribo did god ever mention the other planets in Genesis. Im looking that up now. I mean does he ever describe other large heavenly bodies anywhere at any time? Or ya know Moses that is in writing this down? well not directly K, it says he created the Heaven but thats it. there are mentions elsewhere of the stars but no as to "planets" or our SOLAR SYSTEM. all that is mentioned "directly" of them is the earth, moon, and sun. i will check also but i'm pretty sure that's it on this as to planets etc. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 09/16/08 04:16 PM
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Speaking of Shekinah Glory.....spirit filled believers have already experienced just a small portion of that Glory.. ...Awesome....
My Heart's Cry is For Us All to be Standing in the Light of God's Great Glory...Forever .
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Tribo did god ever mention the other planets in Genesis. Im looking that up now. I mean does he ever describe other large heavenly bodies anywhere at any time? Or ya know Moses that is in writing this down? well not directly K, it says he created the Heaven but thats it. there are mentions elsewhere of the stars but no as to "planets" or our SOLAR SYSTEM. all that is mentioned "directly" of them is the earth, moon, and sun. i will check also but i'm pretty sure that's it on this as to planets etc. |
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Take care all, look forward to this another time
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Krimsa...
Just sharing this on planets ...nothing to do with the question asked though... http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/planets I thought it was interesting however.....that God said, "God created the heavens AND the earth" The earth is known to be part of the solar system....yet notice that God mentioned the earth APART from the rest .... interesting... |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 09/16/08 04:34 PM
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Tribo..... God SAID, "Let there be Light"....so Yes, after pondering this more last night, I saw that the Light when God Said, "Let There Be Light" , was the Energy Source Light,NECCESSARY FOR LIFE .... and Not The Light Of His Glory ( NO MAN in his sin nature could STAND that Shikinah Glory Light, if that were so). HOWEVER......WHEN Believers DO One Day STAND in God's Presence ,We WILL Be Then ABLE to Stand in the LIGHT of HIS GLORY(Cause Jesus is the REAL Light of the World)....where there will be no more night . Be Blessed.... Thanks MS, that's all i was hoping you'd see, that it was not gods light, that's what the whole discussion was about. As to gods light- i have no problem with seeing it as you state in the book therefore no comment from me on this. I just hope in the future if i see something that is stated in such a way as to be taken literraly as this was that you accept that it is what it is. be it this, the book of revelations or what ever else i may run across as i read. ok? right now i'm giving thought to paul and jesus as comparing them with god and moses - lucyyyyy - you will have some splainin to do to ricky!!
Well Tribo...not sure who you were addressing with your statement of "giving thought to Paul and Jesus compared to God and Moses".... Tribo... about The Word.... the Written Word of God is Logos. But also the Word of God ,when it gets into one's spirit, then comes alive....and becomes RHEMA. The Depth of the Meaning of God's Word , goes beyond just a literal meaning. |
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Tribo..... God SAID, "Let there be Light"....so Yes, after pondering this more last night, I saw that the Light when God Said, "Let There Be Light" , was the Energy Source Light,NECCESSARY FOR LIFE .... and Not The Light Of His Glory ( NO MAN in his sin nature could STAND that Shikinah Glory Light, if that were so). HOWEVER......WHEN Believers DO One Day STAND in God's Presence ,We WILL Be Then ABLE to Stand in the LIGHT of HIS GLORY(Cause Jesus is the REAL Light of the World)....where there will be no more night . Be Blessed.... Thanks MS, that's all i was hoping you'd see, that it was not gods light, that's what the whole discussion was about. As to gods light- i have no problem with seeing it as you state in the book therefore no comment from me on this. I just hope in the future if i see something that is stated in such a way as to be taken literraly as this was that you accept that it is what it is. be it this, the book of revelations or what ever else i may run across as i read. ok? right now i'm giving thought to paul and jesus as comparing them with god and moses - lucyyyyy - you will have some splainin to do to ricky!!
Well Tribo...not sure what you meant by your statement of "giving thought to Paul and Jesus compared to God and Moses".... Tribo...the Word of God is Logos...the written Word. But also the Word of God ,when it gets into our spirit comes alive....and becomes RHEMA. So the Word of God has much deeper meaning , that just a literal meaning. ahh my lady, but since i can only understand the literal meaning of literal statements i am only able to speak upon those things - correct? so i will be talking always of what i see as literal statements that dont make sense to me on a literal basis ok? thnx.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 09/16/08 05:26 PM
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Trust Me Tribo...NONE of us have arrived yet, in knowing all there is to know....especially myself
It's kinda like starting off with learning arithmetic, then advancing to mathematics, then algebra, then geometry, then calculous, etc... and sometimes to get answers, we even have to go all the way back to arithmetic ...... 
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Edited by
tribo
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Tue 09/16/08 05:36 PM
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Trust Me Tribo...NONE of us have arrived yet, in knowing all there is to know....especially myself
It's kinda like starting off with learning arithmetic, then advancing to mathematics, then algebra, then geometry, then calculous, etc... and sometimes to get answers, we even have to go all the way back to arithmetic ......
I trust you MS, i know you have a good heart and deb also, and your correct, no one has all the answers or knowledge, not even if they combine all the best minds. but like i said i will bring up things that donot sit right with me when or as i run across them ok?
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Tue 09/16/08 06:02 PM
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God Loves it when we Question and Ask and Seek after Truth....
You Are Doing Fine Tribo...
Be Blessed Now ....
"The More We Seek Him The More We Know Him " and "The More We Know Him The More We Seek Him " |
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God Loves it when we Question and Ask and Seek after Truth.... You Are Doing Fine Tribo...
Be Blessed Now ....
"The More We Seek Him The More We Know Him " and "The More We Know Him The More We Seek Him " 
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Edited by
davidben1
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Tue 09/16/08 09:00 PM
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MS......MIRROR MIRROR......
actually it seems "god" hates it when one seeks him IN THE CONTEXT THIS IS WRITTEN IN, IN THE WAY THIS IS INTERPRETED, as this thinking thru belief with such falicy of self seeking interpretations cuts one off from all their neighbors, and family, and friends, as if this is said, it is thought that "god" is off somewhere else, and it make one disregard people, the ones right in front of them, that ARE HIM..... was it not written, what one has done unto the least of these, one has done unto me, which would be the same as to say, to seek me, seek your NEIGHBORS, AND FAMILY, AND FRIENDS, AND STOP IGNORING WHAT THEY SAY AND HEAR THEM AND STOP THINKING YOU ARE SERVING ME BY DOING THIS..... if the god of text wish for all to seek "him", then why the hell did he say to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF..... if it said love god more than anything else, than the REST OF THE TEXT MUST ALSO BE INCLUDED, WHICH SAID GOD REST IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, IN THY ENEMIES, IN THY NEIGHBORS.... ARE NOT ANY THAT DO NOT SUBSCIBE TO SUCH DIVISIVENESS AND SELF SEKKING INTERPRETATIONS CONSIDERED AS "ENEMIES" TO ANY "PROFESSED" CHRISTIAN, AS ALL THAT PROFESS, ARE SELF SEEKERS, OR THERE IS NO WAY PROFESSION COULD "EVER" BE MADE, IF SELF WAS "LAST", AS THIS WOULD MAKE NO SEEING OR SPEAKING OR THINKING OF SELF, LOL.... if the god of text wish one to seek him, this is true, but where did he say he lived, other than IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, SO SEEK TO CONNECT TO THE HEARTS OF OTHER MANKIND, LOL....... oh, but forgot, the interpretations of "seeking him" are seen thru eyes of self righteoussness, that, SEEK FOR SELF, AS IS NOT SEEKING GOD "ALL FOR ONESELF".......TOTALLY HOW IS THIS NOT TOTAL SELF GREED AND SEEKING SELF MOST, AND SUCH AS THESE COME TO EVEN DISREGARD THEIR OWN FAMILIES MOST, AS ALL THAT IS DONE FOR THEM, IS NOT FOR THEM, BUT TO BE THE "GOOD" PERSON IN "GODS" EYES..... did it not say love thy neighbor AS THYSELF, LOL..... WHERE IS GOD......NOT IN THE SKY AS SOME FACE, AND WHY IT SAID NONE HAS EVER SEEN THE FACE OF GOD, AS TO SEE GOD IS TO SEE THE FACE OF ONE'S FAMILY, ONE'S FRIENDS, ONE'S NEIGHBORS...... was it not said that if there is one that is a teacher of the "church" the FAMILY OF ONE'S OWN MUST BE LOVED AS UNCONDITIONALLY, AS CHRIST LOVE MANKIND, WHICH IF ONE IS AS CHRIST, WILL THEY NOT LOVE "ALL" OF MANKIND THEN...... HOW THE HELL CAN ONE LOVE THEIR OWN FAMILY WITHOUT CONDITION IF THE NOTION THAT SEEKING "GOD" FIRST IS HELD TO AS SPOKEN WITH SUCH HALF INTERPRETATIONS...... make yourself first when god sit down at your table......NO WAY ONE PRODFESSED CHRISTION WOULD DO IT, AS OF COURSE, EACH SEEK FAVOR AND GRACES FROM THEIR GOD, and believe they would recognize him if he walked in, lol..... but such as these cannot see it is the "evil" guy at mcdonalds one got mad at today, the "rebellious" kid you ignore to go read your damn bible and atrend church services, while the kid is told how to "seek" god the same, making the child see many others as "evil" as well, and the wife that the "seeking hubby" tells what to do all day, as sees as "inspired" by satan, and the wife that "divorced" him because he was not giving what "i needed"....... the same old "bible" inspired drills of behaviour since these type interpretations have been coming down the piplines....... there is no way that this type thinking can naturally give if one's own family sits down, or the friend, or the neighbor, as they are as second, and ONESELF IS FIRST, AS ALL SEEKING GOD AND THE KINGDOM HAS TO MAKE THIS MOTIVE WITHIN, AS THE VERY NOTION OF SEEKING GOD FIRST "WITHOUT KNOWING HE IS IN ALL OTHERS" CANNOT CREATE ANYTHING BUT DISREGARD FOR FELLOW MANKIND, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN THE "FOLD" of the pharisees, that look down long noses at all neighbors, awaiting "god" to come and erase the evil doers...... even those within the "fold" are treated with "feigned goodness", as one believes that if they do not, god is displeased, and so such actions still come MOST from self seeking, so blindness to "all others" has no other choice but to be created, from such self seeking notions....... peace |
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MS......MIRROR MIRROR...... actually it seems "god" hates it when one seeks him IN THE CONTEXT THIS IS WRITTEN IN, IN THE WAY THIS IS INTERPRETED, as this thinking thru belief with such falicy of self seeking interpretations cuts one off from all their neighbors, and family, and friends, as if this is said, it is thought that "god" is off somewhere else, and it make one disregard people, the ones right in front of them, that ARE HIM..... was it not written, what one has done unto the least of these, one has done unto me, which would be the same as to say, to seek me, seek your NEIGHBORS, AND FAMILY, AND FRIENDS, AND STOP IGNORING WHAT THEY SAY AND HEAR THEM AND STOP THINKING YOU ARE SERVING ME BY DOING THIS..... if the god of text wish for all to seek "him", then why the hell did he say to LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF..... if it said love god more than anything else, than the REST OF THE TEXT MUST ALSO BE INCLUDED, WHICH SAID GOD REST IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, IN THY ENEMIES, IN THY NEIGHBORS.... ARE NOT ANY THAT DO NOT SUBSCIBE TO SUCH DIVISIVENESS AND SELF SEKKING INTERPRETATIONS CONSIDERED AS "ENEMIES" TO ANY "PROFESSED" CHRISTIAN, AS ALL THAT PROFESS, ARE SELF SEEKERS, OR THERE IS NO WAY PROFESSION COULD "EVER" BE MADE, IF SELF WAS "LAST", AS THIS WOULD MAKE NO SEEING OR SPEAKING OR THINKING OF SELF, LOL.... if the god of text wish one to seek him, this is true, but where did he say he lived, other than IN THE HEARTS OF MAN, SO SEEK TO CONNECT TO THE HEARTS OF OTHER MANKIND, LOL....... oh, but forgot, the interpretations of "seeking him" are seen thru eyes of self righteoussness, that, SEEK FOR SELF, AS IS NOT SEEKING GOD "ALL FOR ONESELF".......TOTALLY HOW IS THIS NOT TOTAL SELF GREED AND SEEKING SELF MOST, AND SUCH AS THESE COME TO EVEN DISREGARD THEIR OWN FAMILIES MOST, AS ALL THAT IS DONE FOR THEM, IS NOT FOR THEM, BUT TO BE THE "GOOD" PERSON IN "GODS" EYES..... did it not say love thy neighbor AS THYSELF, LOL..... WHERE IS GOD......NOT IN THE SKY AS SOME FACE, AND WHY IT SAID NONE HAS EVER SEEN THE FACE OF GOD, AS TO SEE GOD IS TO SEE THE FACE OF ONE'S FAMILY, ONE'S FRIENDS, ONE'S NEIGHBORS...... was it not said that if there is one that is a teacher of the "church" the FAMILY OF ONE'S OWN MUST BE LOVED AS UNCONDITIONALLY, AS CHRIST LOVE MANKIND, WHICH IF ONE IS AS CHRIST, WILL THEY NOT LOVE "ALL" OF MANKIND THEN...... HOW THE HELL CAN ONE LOVE THEIR OWN FAMILY WITHOUT CONDITION IF THE NOTION THAT SEEKING "GOD" FIRST IS HELD TO AS SPOKEN WITH SUCH HALF INTERPRETATIONS...... make yourself first when god sit down at your table......NO WAY ONE PRODFESSED CHRISTION WOULD DO IT, AS OF COURSE, EACH SEEK FAVOR AND GRACES FROM THEIR GOD, and believe they would recognize him if he walked in, lol..... but such as these cannot see it is the "evil" guy at mcdonalds one got mad at today, the "rebellious" kid you ignore to go read your damn bible and atrend church services, while the kid is told how to "seek" god the same, making the child see many others as "evil" as well, and the wife that the "seeking hubby" tells what to do all day, as sees as "inspired" by satan, and the wife that "divorced" him because he was not giving what "i needed"....... the same old "bible" inspired drills of behaviour since these type interpretations have been coming down the piplines....... there is no way that this type thinking can naturally give if one's own family sits down, or the friend, or the neighbor, as they are as second, and ONESELF IS FIRST, AS ALL SEEKING GOD AND THE KINGDOM HAS TO MAKE THIS MOTIVE WITHIN, AS THE VERY NOTION OF SEEKING GOD FIRST "WITHOUT KNOWING HE IS IN ALL OTHERS" CANNOT CREATE ANYTHING BUT DISREGARD FOR FELLOW MANKIND, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN THE "FOLD" of the pharisees, that look down long noses at all neighbors, awaiting "god" to come and erase the evil doers...... even those within the "fold" are treated with "feigned goodness", as one believes that if they do not, god is displeased, and so such actions still come MOST from self seeking, so blindness to "all others" has no other choice but to be created, from such self seeking notions....... peace soooo-- other than what you've written - how are you today my friend? god [oooooops i mean good] i hope - 
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Trust Me Tribo...NONE of us have arrived yet, in knowing all there is to know....especially myself
It's kinda like starting off with learning arithmetic, then advancing to mathematics, then algebra, then geometry, then calculous, etc... and sometimes to get answers, we even have to go all the way back to arithmetic ......
I trust you MS, i know you have a good heart and deb also, and your correct, no one has all the answers or knowledge, not even if they combine all the best minds. but like i said i will bring up things that donot sit right with me when or as i run across them ok?
I find them rather challenging! Some a little off the wall - and some, just have no anwers in the absolute. However - no reason why they shouldn't be asked. |
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thnx lar, i'm running out of things in the first 2 chapters of Gen, so i'll have to move on pretty soon - i know that will make you a little happier eh?
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