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Yeah, well he was talking about Obama and Hillary in a joking manner.
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How comes when Obama gets 90+ percent of the black vote in most states no one says a thing about it, but when he gets only like 40% of white working class voters it is implied this happens because they are white and he is black (essentially calling the 60 percent that didn't vote for him racists)? Because us whites who listen to the other whites say things like " I will never vote for a black president", or "not as long as I am breathing will there be a black president", or the ones that use derogatory terminology to express the same point of view. Until I stop hearing this crap, racist exist and it plays a role in the elections by their own words. So, black people are unable to be racist? Or, for that matter all minorities are unable to be racist? In a white controlled country, what effect can a minorities hatred of whites have? Besides that if they are mad, I DO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I would be so sick of the prejudice I have seen that I would be one pissed *****, you bet. |
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Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt. 2008-been a while.  Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people. Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human. And it hasnt been a while
That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history. The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.  Your reading a different history book than everyone else Did you write it yourself?
Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me. You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?
 Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?
Its not
Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrants
Its common sense
No, I did not say they were. My people were Germans. My people during the 30 Years War were farmers living inbetween a war. The Catholic French raped, pillaged, and slaughtered millions. Over half to 2/3rds of my people, millions of them were killed. It has been reported that about 8 MILLION Germans were killed during this war. Oh yes, the Germans had it MUCH better than African Americans. What the British did to the Irish is of little difference to what was done to the German people. And your point is....................
You said that black people, African Americans, have had it "far worse" than that of the Irish, Germans, and essentially all others. To state that is to ignore history, which I have a college degree in. Your statement is ridiculous in nature. The fact of the matter is slavery is past, I had NO part in it, my area has most of the famous underground railroad pathways. Slavery is gone, past, and equality is here and has been for awhile now. Men like Sowell, Obama, and so many others show that this is true. However, men like Wright, Sharpton, and others do not want to move on and drop the victim race baiting because it is too profitable and brings with it so much power. The Obamas show that they have no moved on for race, nor has their side. They toss the race card whenever possible, using it even against people who for the longest time were seen as popular by the black community and have supported it as well. Equality is NOT here
Just because your equal, doesnt mean everyone else is
Who says I'm equal? Tell that to white poeple who have lost out of jobs to people of other races who were less qualified because of racial quotas. There was a big thing about this a few years back in Boston. There were few black firefighters. This white guy passed the test with higher score, performed better, but the black guy was given the job because they needed to fill quota. Sadly, this will be needed until the real equality is reached. It is the symptom of the bigger problem. |
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How comes when Obama gets 90+ percent of the black vote in most states no one says a thing about it, but when he gets only like 40% of white working class voters it is implied this happens because they are white and he is black (essentially calling the 60 percent that didn't vote for him racists)? Because us whites who listen to the other whites say things like " I will never vote for a black president", or "not as long as I am breathing will there be a black president", or the ones that use derogatory terminology to express the same point of view. Until I stop hearing this crap, racist exist and it plays a role in the elections by their own words. So, black people are unable to be racist? Or, for that matter all minorities are unable to be racist? In a white controlled country, what effect can a minorities hatred of whites have? Besides that if they are mad, I DO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I would be so sick of the prejudice I have seen that I would be one pissed *****, you bet. I see, so according to you it is quite alright for minorities, especially African Americans, to be racist and prejudice towards white poeple. Remember that self-hating black person statement you made? Sound like you are a self-hating white person. |
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Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt. 2008-been a while. Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people. Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human. And it hasnt been a while
That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history. The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism. Your reading a different history book than everyone else Did you write it yourself?
Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me. You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?
Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?
Its not
Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrants
Its common sense
No, I did not say they were. My people were Germans. My people during the 30 Years War were farmers living inbetween a war. The Catholic French raped, pillaged, and slaughtered millions. Over half to 2/3rds of my people, millions of them were killed. It has been reported that about 8 MILLION Germans were killed during this war. Oh yes, the Germans had it MUCH better than African Americans. What the British did to the Irish is of little difference to what was done to the German people. And your point is....................
You said that black people, African Americans, have had it "far worse" than that of the Irish, Germans, and essentially all others. To state that is to ignore history, which I have a college degree in. Your statement is ridiculous in nature. The fact of the matter is slavery is past, I had NO part in it, my area has most of the famous underground railroad pathways. Slavery is gone, past, and equality is here and has been for awhile now. Men like Sowell, Obama, and so many others show that this is true. However, men like Wright, Sharpton, and others do not want to move on and drop the victim race baiting because it is too profitable and brings with it so much power. The Obamas show that they have no moved on for race, nor has their side. They toss the race card whenever possible, using it even against people who for the longest time were seen as popular by the black community and have supported it as well. Equality is NOT here
Just because your equal, doesnt mean everyone else is
Who says I'm equal? Tell that to white poeple who have lost out of jobs to people of other races who were less qualified because of racial quotas. There was a big thing about this a few years back in Boston. There were few black firefighters. This white guy passed the test with higher score, performed better, but the black guy was given the job because they needed to fill quota. Sadly, this will be needed until the real equality is reached. It is the symptom of the bigger problem. Sadly, who cares if someone is less qualified than another save me and put out fires, at least the quota was met...lol, really? That's what you just said. |
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Once again,
who started the race war here? 
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All I see are whites in here....
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All I see are whites in here.... Don't worry, she claimed that Thomas Sowell is a self-hating black person, and she is a self-hating white person so she can cover that 'side' (as she seems to be making a distinction). |
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Eh, I guess it just goes to show you
We have to argue about something....
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How comes when Obama gets 90+ percent of the black vote in most states no one says a thing about it, but when he gets only like 40% of white working class voters it is implied this happens because they are white and he is black (essentially calling the 60 percent that didn't vote for him racists)? Because us whites who listen to the other whites say things like " I will never vote for a black president", or "not as long as I am breathing will there be a black president", or the ones that use derogatory terminology to express the same point of view. Until I stop hearing this crap, racist exist and it plays a role in the elections by their own words. So, black people are unable to be racist? Or, for that matter all minorities are unable to be racist? In a white controlled country, what effect can a minorities hatred of whites have? Besides that if they are mad, I DO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I would be so sick of the prejudice I have seen that I would be one pissed *****, you bet. I see, so according to you it is quite alright for minorities, especially African Americans, to be racist and prejudice towards white poeple. Remember that self-hating black person statement you made? Sound like you are a self-hating white person. No, I do not hate my kind but I do hate prejudice whites. My family includes black folks and I have seen the prejudice perpetrated against them and it is ugly and unnecessary. I got a great understanding of what they go through by being at black family functions and in black neighborhoods. I am telling you right now, I would be the most hated black person in this country because I would be at war daily with what I have seen them "turn the other cheek" over. Until you can see it for yourself you really have no understanding. I am mad as hell over it being a white person who was shamed by the racist whites. But I would really be a pissed ***** if I were black and had to actually go through it. I understand their anger. I have seen what they have to be angry about. |
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Edited by
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How comes when Obama gets 90+ percent of the black vote in most states no one says a thing about it, but when he gets only like 40% of white working class voters it is implied this happens because they are white and he is black (essentially calling the 60 percent that didn't vote for him racists)? Because us whites who listen to the other whites say things like " I will never vote for a black president", or "not as long as I am breathing will there be a black president", or the ones that use derogatory terminology to express the same point of view. Until I stop hearing this crap, racist exist and it plays a role in the elections by their own words. So, black people are unable to be racist? Or, for that matter all minorities are unable to be racist? In a white controlled country, what effect can a minorities hatred of whites have? Besides that if they are mad, I DO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I would be so sick of the prejudice I have seen that I would be one pissed *****, you bet. I see, so according to you it is quite alright for minorities, especially African Americans, to be racist and prejudice towards white poeple. Remember that self-hating black person statement you made? Sound like you are a self-hating white person. No, I do not hate my kind but I do hate prejudice whites. My family includes black folks and I have seen the prejudice perpetrated against them and it is ugly and unnecessary. I got a great understanding of what they go through by being at black family functions and in black neighborhoods. I am telling you right now, I would be the most hated black person in this country because I would be at war daily with what I have seen them "turn the other cheek" over. Until you can see it for yourself you really have no understanding. I am mad as hell over it being a white person who was shamed by the racist whites. But I would really be a pissed ***** if I were black and had to actually go through it. I understand their anger. I have seen what they have to be angry about. I have no issue there, well besides maybe with the militant I'd kill whitey if I was black part. But, you did state that the reason that only 40% voted for Obama and a 60% wouldn't was because that 60% were racists or prejudice. You made this as a KEY statement. So, since I am not voting for Obama and many other whites won't because he has a horrible stance on everything, does that mean we are all racists? And, you also made the point that Thomas Sowell and any black person who is conservative or doesn't support Obama is MOST LIKELY a self-hating black person. You made no concession that they just don't agree with his views or it is alright to have a political ideology that isn't liberal or Democrat. |
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I am sorry Mirror for hijacking your thread.
McCain and his advisor whispering genocide to him is far worse than what the Obama preacher is preaching. And like Rzr said, Islam is not the extremists we have been exposed to daily. |
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How comes when Obama gets 90+ percent of the black vote in most states no one says a thing about it, but when he gets only like 40% of white working class voters it is implied this happens because they are white and he is black (essentially calling the 60 percent that didn't vote for him racists)? Because us whites who listen to the other whites say things like " I will never vote for a black president", or "not as long as I am breathing will there be a black president", or the ones that use derogatory terminology to express the same point of view. Until I stop hearing this crap, racist exist and it plays a role in the elections by their own words. So, black people are unable to be racist? Or, for that matter all minorities are unable to be racist? In a white controlled country, what effect can a minorities hatred of whites have? Besides that if they are mad, I DO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I would be so sick of the prejudice I have seen that I would be one pissed *****, you bet. I see, so according to you it is quite alright for minorities, especially African Americans, to be racist and prejudice towards white poeple. Remember that self-hating black person statement you made? Sound like you are a self-hating white person. No, I do not hate my kind but I do hate prejudice whites. My family includes black folks and I have seen the prejudice perpetrated against them and it is ugly and unnecessary. I got a great understanding of what they go through by being at black family functions and in black neighborhoods. I am telling you right now, I would be the most hated black person in this country because I would be at war daily with what I have seen them "turn the other cheek" over. Until you can see it for yourself you really have no understanding. I am mad as hell over it being a white person who was shamed by the racist whites. But I would really be a pissed ***** if I were black and had to actually go through it. I understand their anger. I have seen what they have to be angry about. I have no issue there, well besides maybe with the militant I'd kill whitey if I was black part. But, you did state that the reason that only 40% voted for Obama and a 60% wouldn't was because that 60% were racists or prejudice. You made this as a KEY statement. So, since I am not voting for Obama and many other whites won't because he has a horrible stance on everything, does that mean we are all racists? And, you also made the point that Thomas Sowell and any black person who is conservative or doesn't support Obama is MUST LIKELY a self-hating black person. You made no concession that they just don't agree with his views or it is alright to have a political ideology that isn't liberal or Democrat. What the heck? You put many words in my mouth and I am spitting them back at you. Out of the 60 percent there are racists in the bunch, I have been exposed to them. Second there are blacks who hate their own kind, fact. I do not know this Sowell person so I cannot verify that for sure about him but is should be remembered in case the messsage is hatemongering. There will be a need for Sharptons and the racial quota until equality is reached in this country, sad but true. I do not call myself a liberal so I cannot defend liberals. I have always been registered as a Democrat. I have voted outside of the party but not for Bush and glad of that fact. Again sorry Mirror, this is my last one on this subject. |
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How comes when Obama gets 90+ percent of the black vote in most states no one says a thing about it, but when he gets only like 40% of white working class voters it is implied this happens because they are white and he is black (essentially calling the 60 percent that didn't vote for him racists)? Because us whites who listen to the other whites say things like " I will never vote for a black president", or "not as long as I am breathing will there be a black president", or the ones that use derogatory terminology to express the same point of view. Until I stop hearing this crap, racist exist and it plays a role in the elections by their own words. So, black people are unable to be racist? Or, for that matter all minorities are unable to be racist? In a white controlled country, what effect can a minorities hatred of whites have? Besides that if they are mad, I DO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I would be so sick of the prejudice I have seen that I would be one pissed *****, you bet. I see, so according to you it is quite alright for minorities, especially African Americans, to be racist and prejudice towards white poeple. Remember that self-hating black person statement you made? Sound like you are a self-hating white person. No, I do not hate my kind but I do hate prejudice whites. My family includes black folks and I have seen the prejudice perpetrated against them and it is ugly and unnecessary. I got a great understanding of what they go through by being at black family functions and in black neighborhoods. I am telling you right now, I would be the most hated black person in this country because I would be at war daily with what I have seen them "turn the other cheek" over. Until you can see it for yourself you really have no understanding. I am mad as hell over it being a white person who was shamed by the racist whites. But I would really be a pissed ***** if I were black and had to actually go through it. I understand their anger. I have seen what they have to be angry about. I have no issue there, well besides maybe with the militant I'd kill whitey if I was black part. But, you did state that the reason that only 40% voted for Obama and a 60% wouldn't was because that 60% were racists or prejudice. You made this as a KEY statement. So, since I am not voting for Obama and many other whites won't because he has a horrible stance on everything, does that mean we are all racists? And, you also made the point that Thomas Sowell and any black person who is conservative or doesn't support Obama is MUST LIKELY a self-hating black person. You made no concession that they just don't agree with his views or it is alright to have a political ideology that isn't liberal or Democrat. What the heck? You put many words in my mouth and I am spitting them back at you. Out of the 60 percent there are racists in the bunch, I have been exposed to them. Second there are blacks who hate their own kind, fact. I do not know this Sowell person so I cannot verify that for sure about him but is should be remembered in case the messsage is hatemongering. There will be a need for Sharptons and the racial quota until equality is reached in this country, sad but true. I do not call myself a liberal so I cannot defend liberals. I have always been registered as a Democrat. I have voted outside of the party but not for Bush and glad of that fact. Again sorry Mirror, this is my last one on this subject. 
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So what? This is all ridiculous in nature. And come on mnhiker, you were quick to defend Obama with Rev. Wright and say how dumb in nature it all was, but now are using this against Mccain? Talk about cheap tactics. I do personally see a big difference in it all. Mccain doesn't have the Evangelical extremist mindset, not that I've ever seen. He went to Israel with Liebermann, who is a Jew. To MirrorMirror I never heard Hagee state he wants to wipe out the Jews and replace them with Christians. According to him he had visited Israel many times and is very close with Jewish leaders there. Reverend Wright has seemingly left a huge impact on the Obama's. Black Liberation Theology is deep in Obama's own ideas of governance, because the ideology, like other Liberation theologies are heavy in socialism. Obama's wife's comments and often her speeches have heavy Black Liberation Theology imbued in it, and her college writings and senior thesis are heavy on the racial, despite about to grad from Princeton and going to all other ivy stuff she feels like she's being held down by the white man. This stuff was there, increased with Rev. Wright, and continues today. She married her underling, Michelle was Obama's superior where they worked. For darn sure Barack holds the same ideologies and theologies as Michelle. And, for sure Barack read his father's college papers, which were HEAVY in socialism and radicalism. The Obama's are radical leftwing socialists. So, everyone know what is coming to a White House near you. Hagee says that Jews will be converted to Christianity How do you suppose this will happen? If John McCain isnt an Evangelical, then he is a hypocrite
Mirror, You have to know and study the Bible from Genesis through Revelation to understand all of this, and even then there are differences in opinion as to how things will happen and take place. I, for one, just take one day at a time and do my best to do what I believe the Lord wants me to do. Lindyy
And, you will not get me to name names of those 'well exposed' Christians that I think should 'zip the lip'. I will say, one can never go wrong if she/he follows The Reverend Billy Graham and Dr. Charles Stanley. |
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So what? This is all ridiculous in nature. And come on mnhiker, you were quick to defend Obama with Rev. Wright and say how dumb in nature it all was, but now are using this against Mccain? Talk about cheap tactics. I do personally see a big difference in it all. Mccain doesn't have the Evangelical extremist mindset, not that I've ever seen. He went to Israel with Liebermann, who is a Jew. To MirrorMirror I never heard Hagee state he wants to wipe out the Jews and replace them with Christians. According to him he had visited Israel many times and is very close with Jewish leaders there. Reverend Wright has seemingly left a huge impact on the Obama's. Black Liberation Theology is deep in Obama's own ideas of governance, because the ideology, like other Liberation theologies are heavy in socialism. Obama's wife's comments and often her speeches have heavy Black Liberation Theology imbued in it, and her college writings and senior thesis are heavy on the racial, despite about to grad from Princeton and going to all other ivy stuff she feels like she's being held down by the white man. This stuff was there, increased with Rev. Wright, and continues today. She married her underling, Michelle was Obama's superior where they worked. For darn sure Barack holds the same ideologies and theologies as Michelle. And, for sure Barack read his father's college papers, which were HEAVY in socialism and radicalism. The Obama's are radical leftwing socialists. So, everyone know what is coming to a White House near you. Hagee says that Jews will be converted to Christianity How do you suppose this will happen? If John McCain isnt an Evangelical, then he is a hypocrite
Mirror, You have to know and study the Bible from Genesis through Revelation to understand all of this, and even then there are differences in opinion as to how things will happen and take place. I, for one, just take one day at a time and do my best to do what I believe the Lord wants me to do. Lindyy
And, you will not get me to name names of those 'well exposed' Christians that I think should 'zip the lip'. I will say, one can never go wrong if she/he follows The Reverend Billy Graham and Dr. Charles Stanley. Lindyy
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Poor John McCain. He just can't get it right. First he gets the endorsement of John Hagee, who hates Catholics, Jews and Muslims, now he has to reject the endorsement of someone he called his 'spiritual advisor', televangelist Rod Parsley, who has called for destroying Islam. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/mccain-rejects.html AND the point of all this being? The purpose of this thread being? What happened to your precious Obama???? Are you one of those supporters who tucks tail and runs the minute the fire heats up? Lindyy |
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Lindyy
What do you think about what John Hagee said about the Catholic Church and the Jews?
What do you think about what Pastor Rod Parsley said about America being founded to destroy Islam?
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Is this what you mean Lindy?
CHICAGO - (KRT) - Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives. The Rev. Bill Graham "This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life. "You believe that?" says Nixon after the "stranglehold" comment. "Yes, sir," says Graham. "Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it." "No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," replies Graham. Later, Graham mentions that he has friends in the media who are Jewish, saying they "swarm around me and are friendly to me." But, he confides to Nixon, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country." The newly released tapes cover the first six months of 1972, with the Vietnam War and the upcoming presidential campaign the backdrops for many conversations. The tapes touch subjects as varied as using a nuclear bomb on North Vietnam (a notion quickly derided by adviser Henry Kissinger) and settling a West Coast dock strike. They also include all of the famous "smoking gun" conversation about the Watergate break-in, known for its damaging disclosures about a cover-up and its 18 1/2-minute gap. The Nixon-Graham remarks came during a 90-minute session after a prayer breakfast the men attended on Feb. 1, 1972. http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/02/Graham_Nixon.html 
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Funny I never recall reading anything like that in the Bible from Genesis through Revelation.....
hmmmmmmmmm
An Obvious reason why Religion should not be allowed in Politics. |
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