Topic: McCain's spiritual guide wanted the destruction of Islam.
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Sat 05/24/08 09:50 AM



Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh

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Sat 05/24/08 09:51 AM

"By far the best presentation as a candidate, among all the candidates in both parties, is that of Barack Obama. But if he actually believes even half of the irresponsible nonsense he talks, he would be an utter disaster in the White House." - Thomas Sowell

"The fact that Obama talks differently than Jeremiah Wright does not mean that his track record is different. Barack Obama's voting record in the Senate is perfectly consistent with the far left ideology and the grievance culture, just as his wife's statement that she was never proud of her country before is consistent with that ideology.

Senator Barack Obama's political success thus far has been a blow for equality." - Thomas Sowell

"The ease with which he has accomplished this chameleon-like change, and entranced both white and black Democrats, is a tribute to the man's talent and a warning about his reliability. " - Thomas Sowell


More hatemongering rhetoric, designed to scare people.

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Sat 05/24/08 09:51 AM






Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
flowerforyou You didnt say that blacks are guillible, uneducated with terrorist ties.flowerforyou You just said that their community leaders are.flowerforyou Whats the difference?flowerforyou


Well you hate Bush don't you? You can say nasty things about him and that's okay, but I can't say the same thing about men like Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, Farrakhan, and others that exploit a "victim society"?


flowerforyou Im not sure how you get that these black leaders have exploited their communities.flowerforyou Jesse Jackson has done more to help the black community than anyone


Have you not read any of my posts? You should really read some articles and books by men like Thomas Sowell and others. These fellow black men have been talking against these "grievance culture" types who have exploited the black community for years and years. All these leaders exploit the downtrodding to forever keep them downtrodding to increase their own financial success and political power in the community and elsewhere.

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Sat 05/24/08 09:52 AM
Lets get back on topic:

flowerforyou Does any of you neocons agree with Pastor Rod Parsley?flowerforyou

flowerforyou He says the U.S. was founded to destroy Islam.flowerforyou

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Sat 05/24/08 09:52 AM




Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


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Sat 05/24/08 09:54 AM


"By far the best presentation as a candidate, among all the candidates in both parties, is that of Barack Obama. But if he actually believes even half of the irresponsible nonsense he talks, he would be an utter disaster in the White House." - Thomas Sowell

"The fact that Obama talks differently than Jeremiah Wright does not mean that his track record is different. Barack Obama's voting record in the Senate is perfectly consistent with the far left ideology and the grievance culture, just as his wife's statement that she was never proud of her country before is consistent with that ideology.

Senator Barack Obama's political success thus far has been a blow for equality." - Thomas Sowell

"The ease with which he has accomplished this chameleon-like change, and entranced both white and black Democrats, is a tribute to the man's talent and a warning about his reliability. " - Thomas Sowell


More hatemongering rhetoric, designed to scare people.


Hatemongering? Want to call this man an Uncle Tom as well, because he is black you know. A former marine, who has his masters and doctorate from top colleges in the country, has written numerous books on economics, written hundreds of columns on economics and politics. And, has taught in top universities.

The critique of a fellow highly educated, self-made black man. Oh yes, a great example of a hatemonger.

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Sat 05/24/08 09:55 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 05/24/08 10:02 AM







Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
flowerforyou You didnt say that blacks are guillible, uneducated with terrorist ties.flowerforyou You just said that their community leaders are.flowerforyou Whats the difference?flowerforyou


Well you hate Bush don't you? You can say nasty things about him and that's okay, but I can't say the same thing about men like Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, Farrakhan, and others that exploit a "victim society"?


flowerforyou Im not sure how you get that these black leaders have exploited their communities.flowerforyou Jesse Jackson has done more to help the black community than anyone


Have you not read any of my posts? You should really read some articles and books by men like Thomas Sowell and others. These fellow black men have been talking against these "grievance culture" types who have exploited the black community for years and years. All these leaders exploit the downtrodding to forever keep them downtrodding to increase their own financial success and political power in the community and elsewhere.


There are blacks who hate their own kind, I have seen them. So you cannot take all of them as the great knowledge either.

Back on topic with Mirror, genocide is much worse then the black issues.

As an after thought, like I said before the black community has their issues and as white people we have to respect their struggle, we cannot understand it sometimes but it is a transformation they are going through to get to where they need to be and some of these outspoken black folks are attempting to get a point across to their people and we cannot see the real point sometime. No white American knows what it is like to be black in America. I have about as much as I can have being white and let me tell you the prejudice and hatred I have seen would make me mad as hell.

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Sat 05/24/08 09:55 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/24/08 09:57 AM







Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
flowerforyou You didnt say that blacks are guillible, uneducated with terrorist ties.flowerforyou You just said that their community leaders are.flowerforyou Whats the difference?flowerforyou


Well you hate Bush don't you? You can say nasty things about him and that's okay, but I can't say the same thing about men like Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, Farrakhan, and others that exploit a "victim society"?


flowerforyou Im not sure how you get that these black leaders have exploited their communities.flowerforyou Jesse Jackson has done more to help the black community than anyone


Have you not read any of my posts? You should really read some articles and books by men like Thomas Sowell and others. These fellow black men have been talking against these "grievance culture" types who have exploited the black community for years and years. All these leaders exploit the downtrodding to forever keep them downtrodding to increase their own financial success and political power in the community and elsewhere.
laugh Because they DO have legitiment grievenceslaugh

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Sat 05/24/08 09:56 AM




Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.

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Sat 05/24/08 09:58 AM








Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
flowerforyou You didnt say that blacks are guillible, uneducated with terrorist ties.flowerforyou You just said that their community leaders are.flowerforyou Whats the difference?flowerforyou


Well you hate Bush don't you? You can say nasty things about him and that's okay, but I can't say the same thing about men like Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, Farrakhan, and others that exploit a "victim society"?


flowerforyou Im not sure how you get that these black leaders have exploited their communities.flowerforyou Jesse Jackson has done more to help the black community than anyone


Have you not read any of my posts? You should really read some articles and books by men like Thomas Sowell and others. These fellow black men have been talking against these "grievance culture" types who have exploited the black community for years and years. All these leaders exploit the downtrodding to forever keep them downtrodding to increase their own financial success and political power in the community and elsewhere.
laugh Because they DO have legitiment grievenceslaugh


flowerforyou drinker drinker drinker

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Sat 05/24/08 09:58 AM

Lets get back on topic:

flowerforyou Does any of you neocons agree with Pastor Rod Parsley?flowerforyou

flowerforyou He says the U.S. was founded to destroy Islam.flowerforyou


First of all, I am not a Neocon for I do not fall in line with the ideology that has some similarities with socialism as it was a ideology created by Jews. And, Israel domestic policies are quite socialist in nature.

Second of all, I do not agree with this man nor am I Evangelical. In fact, I have spoken out numerous times against them and the commercialization of Christianity.

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Sat 05/24/08 09:59 AM





Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.
flowerforyou You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?flowerforyou

huh Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?huh

flowerforyou Its notflowerforyou

laugh Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrantslaugh

flowerforyou Its common senseflowerforyou

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Sat 05/24/08 10:07 AM






Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.
flowerforyou You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?flowerforyou

huh Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?huh

flowerforyou Its notflowerforyou

laugh Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrantslaugh

flowerforyou Its common senseflowerforyou


No, I did not say they were. My people were Germans. My people during the 30 Years War were farmers living inbetween a war. The Catholic French raped, pillaged, and slaughtered millions. Over half to 2/3rds of my people, millions of them were killed. It has been reported that about 8 MILLION Germans were killed during this war.

Oh yes, the Germans had it MUCH better than African Americans.

What the British did to the Irish is of little difference to what was done to the German people.

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Sat 05/24/08 10:09 AM






Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.
flowerforyou You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?flowerforyou

huh Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?huh

flowerforyou Its notflowerforyou

laugh Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrantslaugh

flowerforyou Its common senseflowerforyou


Even the information we have in the history books does not even touch the amount of suffering these people suffered. And the residual effects of this process of keeping them uneducated and work horses is still evident today, they have not recovered yet.

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Sat 05/24/08 10:10 AM







Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.
flowerforyou You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?flowerforyou

huh Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?huh

flowerforyou Its notflowerforyou

laugh Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrantslaugh

flowerforyou Its common senseflowerforyou


No, I did not say they were. My people were Germans. My people during the 30 Years War were farmers living inbetween a war. The Catholic French raped, pillaged, and slaughtered millions. Over half to 2/3rds of my people, millions of them were killed. It has been reported that about 8 MILLION Germans were killed during this war.

Oh yes, the Germans had it MUCH better than African Americans.

What the British did to the Irish is of little difference to what was done to the German people.
huh And your point is....................

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Sat 05/24/08 10:11 AM
How and who brought racisim into this? laugh laugh laugh

noway noway noway noway

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Sat 05/24/08 10:11 AM
Someone whispering genocide into McCains ear is far worse than the black issues of the preacher with Obama.

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Sat 05/24/08 10:12 AM
Oh, I see.....noway noway noway

The white girl..laugh laugh

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Sat 05/24/08 10:13 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/24/08 10:15 AM







Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.
flowerforyou You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?flowerforyou

huh Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?huh

flowerforyou Its notflowerforyou

laugh Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrantslaugh

flowerforyou Its common senseflowerforyou


Even the information we have in the history books does not even touch the amount of suffering these people suffered. And the residual effects of this process of keeping them uneducated and work horses is still evident today, they have not recovered yet.
noway You shouldve seen some of the stuff about slavery I had to learn in American history in college.noway I cannot believe humans treated each other this way.frown That entire portion of American history is a disgrace.noway This is why a lot of Americans have tried to downplay the atrocities and horrors committed upon the African slaves.frown Its almost too much to deal withfrown

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Im Irish. My ancestors were enslaved for years and treated like dirt.
2008-been a while.


flowerforyou Theres no comparison to the plight of the Irish immigrants and the enslavement and brutalization of black people.flowerforyou Your ancestor wernt bred and sold like animals and told they werent human.flowerforyou And it hasnt been a whileflowerforyou


That's a lie. They were bred and sold like animals, they were told they weren't human, and who cares if it has been awhile, not too much longer than African Americans. My people went through the same, as have MOST people in history.

The fact is people like Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Wright NEVER want people to move on because they will lose the power they get from creating victims who rely on them cradle to grave. That is Black Liberation Theology, added with the inclusion of heavy socialism.
laugh laugh Your reading a different history book than everyone elselaugh laugh Did you write it yourself?laugh


Ah humor, avoiding reality. Go read what the British did to the Irish people for hundreds of years and then come back and say that to me.
flowerforyou You said your ancestors were Irish Immigrants?flowerforyou

huh Do you think Immigrant and slave is the same thing?huh

flowerforyou Its notflowerforyou

laugh Black slaves had it far far worse than irish immigrantslaugh

flowerforyou Its common senseflowerforyou


No, I did not say they were. My people were Germans. My people during the 30 Years War were farmers living inbetween a war. The Catholic French raped, pillaged, and slaughtered millions. Over half to 2/3rds of my people, millions of them were killed. It has been reported that about 8 MILLION Germans were killed during this war.

Oh yes, the Germans had it MUCH better than African Americans.

What the British did to the Irish is of little difference to what was done to the German people.
huh And your point is....................


You said that black people, African Americans, have had it "far worse" than that of the Irish, Germans, and essentially all others. To state that is to ignore history, which I have a college degree in. Your statement is ridiculous in nature.

The fact of the matter is slavery is past, I had NO part in it, my area has most of the famous underground railroad pathways. Slavery is gone, past, and equality is here and has been for awhile now. Men like Sowell, Obama, and so many others show that this is true. However, men like Wright, Sharpton, and others do not want to move on and drop the victim race baiting because it is too profitable and brings with it so much power.

The Obamas show that they have no moved on for race, nor has their side. They toss the race card whenever possible, using it even against people who for the longest time were seen as popular by the black community and have supported it as well.