Those two notions combine to produce our persona(s), ego, mask(s), worldly fingerprint, or whatever one chooses to call the coping mechanism(s) which cause one to act differently than they would have normally acted in an attempt to gain approval from others. If this false measure is continued for long enough, it becomes unconsciously ingrained into the person's thought process, and that person begins to believe that they really are the product which was once a mere front for acceptance. Given the observer-reality correlation, couldn't it also be said that other people are also locking in "who" you are? You become the front that you show to the world, not necessarily even because you have to believe it. Even at a more physiological level. If you're an angry person all the time, your cells have more receptors for the angry chemical that your brain sends throughout the body. Your cells even become dependent upon anger, since other receptors in the cells walls had to disappear to make space for that emotion. |
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Maikuru wrote:
. Who or what said that there had to be a creator or creators? Why do we constantly try to give a form of personality, an ego or human like quality to something in order to give ourselves a sense of security that this is all planned out and everything is really under someone else's control? What is wrong with accepting that there is choas in the universe? Does everything need a reason or plan? When do we realize that the plan maybe is that there is no plan? My parents came to me when i was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes because it was part of "God's" plan. My father even tryed to convince me that "God" was punishing me for something i had done or would later do. It didn't take me long to realize that was a load of bull. I personally don't need some form of reassurance to convince myself that things are under control. I find more peace in accepting who and what i am is not because of somebody's grand scheme but because it just is. I can handle that and that is all i need to deal with what i can not explain or understand completely. Let me put it another way. Stories seem to work best so i will go that route. There once was a zen master who was preparing to pass on. He looked through his pupils to see who was best suited to take his place as head of the temple. He narrowed his options down to two. One was a very bright and intelligent leader. The other was a devoted monk of many years and acted as the temple's cook. The master decided to test them with a simple koan to determine who would succeed him. He has them bring a table in and place a glass half filled with water on it. He then had them enter individually to test them. He had the intelligent leader come in first. He pointed at the glass and said what is this? The pupil took a few minutes to ponder the koan. He then turned to the master and said," It is that which is before us in this existence and we must acknowledge it and try to understand it." The master released him and had the cook come in. He then posed the same koan to him. The cook looked at the glass only a second. He then grasped it, drank the water and threw the glass out of the temple. As he turned to leave he told the master," That is it." and left. Now i leave you all with a koan of your own. Who did the master choose to succed him and why? . Are you trying to make us believe you are a zen master? |
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In Greek mythology there were many gods, though I have to agree with sweetnsassyntall on this one yet mythology was at one time a religion that was taking seriously at its time. It is perhaps they became a mythology for they have lost their empires at the time to discontinue their belief system. What are your thoughts on this? |
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Bible Study Anyone?
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In Abrahamic religions, alms are given as charity to benefit the poor. - That as always been my understanding, and my background. We used to have almshouses in England many years ago. |
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Does the Bible say
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hey bible, say something........still not talking huh, well I guess I can beat it out of ya! I'm still looking for a bible that talks! {does anyone understand the message behind this little statement I just made?} |
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Does the Bible say
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hey bible, say something........still not talking huh, well I guess I can beat it out of ya! I'm still looking for a bible that talks! {does anyone understand the message behind this little statment I just made?}
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I lost my Cousin Joseph in Tower 1 and on the day they found his body his wife Patricia committed suicide. I blame Bin Laden for both their deaths and I have been wanting his assisination ever since. That man is responsible for THOUSANDS maybe MILLIONS of deaths. He needs to be eliminated for the greater good of this world. I'm sorry but that is how I feel and I will stand behind it until my last breath |
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and why not murder people who work on the sabbath |
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What is the real reason for this thread/web site/internet/electrons/churchkeys and kites/inventive behavior/the question why,,?
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views about the prospect of what will happen after you retire from this life, stay where you are in your journey into the realm of knowledge about it. If you are not, try something else! good day to ya
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Where does a agnostic man go
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smiless wrote:I don't judge anyone, but the God that Christians worship believe if one doesn't believe in Christ Savior then one is not permitted to heaven.
She indicated if you scroll up that she often wonders (pertaining to my question I ask) what will happen to a agnostic person in which she indicates that her father is one. Now if she believes in the Bible then she should know that her father (agnostic) will not make it. Edited by smiless on Fri 12/05/08 10:53 AM . . Smiless, maybe this could help> christians are just people like anyone else, not all who profess christ are of that undersatnding of the bible. its a very involved issue, not to be taken lightly. I will leave you with this, Christ probably was speaking about his teaching's, not just his blood! |
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And whosoever believeth in him shall have everlasting life" I guess those who don't, won't No second chances! Wow then America has been a great country to those who came here as immigrants getting a second chance in life. It is almost as if God is saying: either you believe or perish you heathen! You had your chance to understand! I don't see how the analogy of the immigrants works here. It appears to me that that is what God is saying, btw. It is saying that our forefathers had more compassion then a god who only gives you one chance to decide to go to heaven or not, whereas our standing fathers have accepted people who have done mistakes in the past to start over in the new country. I always wanted to see God as someone who can forgive someone, especially to those who didn't know at the time. But....our forefathers are humans. God is not. I, too, believe the verse that Quiet quoted. yes so you are saying that our forefathers who are human are more passionate and understanding then God who will only give you one chance? If so then I can only say whatever fits your fancy! This is what I believe: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And whosoever believeth in him shall have everlasting life" That fits my fancy. then make sure to say goodbye to your father as he won't make it there. He is agnostic afterall. That one chance and that is it you know. Enjoy your fancy |
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Im not sure I understand that comment? Anyway, does anyone care to get back on topic here or what? As a courtesy to Abra at least. It is his thread. If you scroll back a ways I had taken two versus from both the OT and the NT where it indicated that Jesus condoned the commandment of "stoning to death unruly children." I was waiting for someone to debate that issue and its yet to happen. |
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boo, God is always trying to help all of us, me, you, and everyone else. All we have to do is let him, but we can not make anyone else let him, only ourselves! Don't know if that helps or not! but I say it with all sincerety!
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oooo pick me pick me pick me and the correct answer is hes not gonna be truly happy with either. |
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Im not sure I understand that comment? Anyway, does anyone care to get back on topic here or what? As a courtesy to Abra at least. It is his thread. |
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I feel like some kinda kod rtr, ma b no naught tungs?
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faith the size of a mustard seed...plant it and let it grow. water and feed the seed. zee? izy! izy four yu maybee, bud hawrd fur mee!! thiz gnu inglishh iz divvicult!! budd id styll duznt anzwer de queztion of howw de seedd haz fayth? |
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. And whosoever believeth in him shall have everlasting life" I guess those who don't, won't No second chances! Wow then America has been a great country to those who came here as immigrants getting a second chance in life. It is almost as if God is saying: either you believe or perish you heathen! You had your chance to understand! I think man may say that, but God does not. I believe everyone will have an equal opportunity to understand. How that will happen, I cannot tell you but I believe it to be true. Why I think that it has to be possible is because it clearly says God knows the heart. For myself personally, nothing man-made can compare to God's mercy. I do not expect you to believe that if you are not ready to do so, but I do trust that you will be given that opportunity at some point in time. |
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I think of that often Marty, I have also though for many years now about my own footprint on this earth, and have learned to live extremely frugal. It's a good education and it humbles you in times like this when you know that so many people have so much less than even those who 'choose' to have no more than is nessessary to live in relative comfort. I hope that made sense, my brain is lagging behind this morning. |
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