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here's a definition of luxury from princton the quality possessed by something that is excessively expensive That definition states NOTHING. Excessive is a relative term. Expensive is a relative term. We know the meaning of poverty. My definition is better than princeton's. I'm sticking with it. If you don't mind..what is the source of your definition? I think this request is fair since you so casually disregarded mine that even included the source. The source is irrelevant. Do you believe everything you read and everything everyone tells you. THINK for yourself. So what you are saying is that everyone can make up their own definitions??????? I thought you were semi-educated, my bad. The educated, and the ones who make it to post-grad school are the ones who THINK for themselves and yes, they DO write their own books. I merely suggested that you THINK, but perhaps not attempt your own book just yet. It takes a while to get used to having ideas. |
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Prostitution wrapped in the cloak of "stability" and family. This topic was not about the subject of prostitution, though it'd be interesting to know how many times gustava's given it away for free, as she is pro pre-nup as well. I think that would be called low self-esteem and having no family values to not value a stable home and family. |
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here's a definition of luxury from princton the quality possessed by something that is excessively expensive That definition states NOTHING. Excessive is a relative term. Expensive is a relative term. We know the meaning of poverty. My definition is better than princeton's. I'm sticking with it. If you don't mind..what is the source of your definition? I think this request is fair since you so casually disregarded mine that even included the source. The source is irrelevant. Do you believe everything you read and everything everyone tells you. THINK for yourself. |
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here's a definition of luxury from princton the quality possessed by something that is excessively expensive That definition states NOTHING. Excessive is a relative term. Expensive is a relative term. We know the meaning of poverty. My definition is better than princeton's. I'm sticking with it. Luxury is the absence of poverty. |
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Further, I find it interesting that more girls do not want a man that can offer these physical requirements and that there aren't more men PROUD enough to stand up and say that is what they'd LIKE TO DO FOR THEIR FAMILY.
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In my original post, I stated certain attributes I'd require to consider marrying and having a family with a man. This has nothing to do with whether I have my own career and money. If I plan to have children, I plan to spend time with them caring for them, not my clients or at work.
I have not addressed values I plan to teach in our home. That is a separate subject. Sounds like the kind of men here are the ones that resent the idea of providing for a family. I addressed the issue of my husband hitting a period of financial difficulty by stating that a SMART, SUCCESSFUL MAN finds solutions and won't remain in a hole forever. I am able to work and am a money earner myself, though I do not see that being my main focus when I have three or so little ones to look after. I also stated that an excessive lifestyle is NOT necessary. I refer to basics, and again, for the reading and definition impaired, LUXURY IS THE ABSENCE OF POVERTY. |
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I think it's sad that most who posted here think it's a bad idea to want to marry a man that is committed to family and home and to be a good PROVIDER. That is what men should do for their families. I also have a hard time believing that the women here aren't just bitter they haven't found this for themselves, the ones who desire children and family. It is completely unnatural and a dysfunctional way of thinking to want anything else.
A smart successful man, as anyone, can come across hard times, but a smart, successful man will also create and find solutions. And as far as being traded in at for 40 for a younger model from the girl bragging she's smart enough to sign a pre-nup.. I'm talking about commitment here. A man who is committed to his family wants to take care of them. I believe a woman should take good care of herself to look good at all ages. |
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I've stated my requirements for a man I'd consider marriage. I don't understand the negativity about wanting a nice family life with a man that can provide these things. How is it a bad thing that a man be able to house his family and take them to the shore? Maybe there's a misunderstanding of the meaning of luxury. It is the absence of poverty. A man that can afford your desires such as chartering jets..is just a little different than "absence of poverty." Chartering a jet for one weekend costs more than the average American makes in a year. You need to come down to reality, because you clearly have no sense of the value of currency. I think the comment was something about chartering a yacht, but that really doesn't matter. I value family and home |
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I've stated my requirements for a man I'd consider marriage. I don't understand the negativity about wanting a nice family life with a man that can provide these things. How is it a bad thing that a man be able to house his family and take them to the shore? Maybe there's a misunderstanding of the meaning of luxury. It is the absence of poverty. because you dont want a man to love. you want a man to provide you with your lifestyle. you want a man to GIVE you a house, to GIVE you luxury, to GIVE you kids, and then let him go off and sleep around with other people. If you truly wanted to make a family. you wouldnt be asking for the things you were. and ESPECIALY not the way you were asking for them. You have NO right to bring children into this world based off a "marriage" based soley around how much f*cking money the guy makes. You need a LOVEING NURTURING family, that will be together through the good times and the bad. Teach the children the value of a dollar, not the value of daddy's dollar. I never got into the values I will teach in my home. That wasn't the subject of the post, but the people here sure are eager to reveal a whole lot more I'm stating, yes, the physical requirements. |
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Prenups and presumptions that Gustava is a gold digger?? You are clueless, honey. The world is not all sweet and well mannered. You said yourself that YOUR man can HIT other women. You are not making sense. Not in the slightest. What you are doing is back-pedalling your shallowness and fear of your own worth, capability and dignity. You are covering your a$$ for having mis-stated what boldness is when you crack the ice with such ridiculous assumptions that make you look magnanimous in your own eyes.... quite to your own chagrin. Who's really being presumptuous??? I know that you are. But, go ahead and backpedal your way out of this trap. You need to re-evaluate your own content and character before you make judgements upon the experienced and ethical. Not to mention the dubious nature of your brand of morality. I'd spank you if I thought you wouldn't like it. HARD!!!! Nope, I stand by what I posted. |
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Ok ok ok ok...so. Rich guy (or well off anyway.) enough to pretty much live the lifestyle. Family, kids and gets to sleep around. Sounds like the kind of guy you are looking for...would say. "what do i need you for? I'm already rich, living the lifestyle and sleep around...why would i want a wife and kids to spend my money" so, what do you offer to they uh..."lucky" fellow...who is most likely going to be rich, and 80. Interesting. Are you saying that there are no men that value family and children that aren't struggling financially? Wow...you dont see the point do you. The TYPE of guy your looking for..(ok, pay attention this time and try to comprehend what im saying) The TYPE of guy you are looking for, would tell you to go to hell if you didnt sign a pre-nup. But hey, i hope you find him anyway, and make sure to save plenty of money for counsiling for your kids, cause they will be so screwed up. How do you know this? Is this how you feel? Are all men like you? |
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I've stated my requirements for a man I'd consider marriage. I don't understand the negativity about wanting a nice family life with a man that can provide these things.
How is it a bad thing that a man be able to house his family and take them to the shore? Maybe there's a misunderstanding of the meaning of luxury. It is the absence of poverty. |
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Ok ok ok ok...so. Rich guy (or well off anyway.) enough to pretty much live the lifestyle. Family, kids and gets to sleep around. Sounds like the kind of guy you are looking for...would say. "what do i need you for? I'm already rich, living the lifestyle and sleep around...why would i want a wife and kids to spend my money" so, what do you offer to they uh..."lucky" fellow...who is most likely going to be rich, and 80. Interesting. Are you saying that there are no men that value family and children that aren't struggling financially? |
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would you be willing to keep finances completely separate and sign a prenuptial agreement in case the marriage failed? Prenups are insulting. I'd never sign one. Of course you wouldn't... Are you smart enough to sign one I'd sign one because I actually have INTEGRITY. Integrity is walking away with dignity, since you insist on bringing divorce into the picture There is no integrity in the idea of a prenup. It is the anti-thesis. You are wrong little girl, by signing a pre-nup, I am stating that I am not a gold-digger. Then you are also going into it under the presumption that you ARE |
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it is not my style. but some open marriages do appear to work fine. moreover you might very well find a man who cares for you and whom you also care for who has no interest in additional variety so to speak. egads in some parts of the world they still do arranged marriages!! some of them are even successful If the formula works.. |
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would you be willing to keep finances completely separate and sign a prenuptial agreement in case the marriage failed? Prenups are insulting. I'd never sign one. Of course you wouldn't... Are you smart enough to sign one I'd sign one because I actually have INTEGRITY. Integrity is walking away with dignity, since you insist on bringing divorce into the picture There is no integrity in the idea of a prenup. It is the anti-thesis. |
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Are you writing all this down yet? The ladies here are talking to you. Us guys are dissin' you hard!!!!! Listen to the ladies and get your head straight. What is wrong with wanting a man that can provide financial security for his family? Why are you guys 'dissin' me? Because it does not work like that!!!!! We are not your Daddy, little girl. We are MEN!!!!!! With morals and values and not boys with toys!!!!!! Get a grip!!!! You seem angry about something in this post. I don't understand why. Isn't it moral to provide for your family? I don't consider a house and having a car to drive your kids to soccer and ballet to be having toys. It's not daddy, it's hubby Look just above this post of yours that I am quoting. You have asked for a man that is already given permission by you to treat you like a toy. For crying out loud!!!!! If you are that erotic and wildly passionate and bent on being used and tenderized with disengenuous emotion, then go ahead. But you shouldn't do that. Women are not toys, and you put out that you want to be a toy. Show some dignity. You might just find and make yourself a better lover. Two tango better when in love. It sounds to me that you are uncomfortable discussing the issue of money. I think you also make the presumption that me and the the man I date and marry don't thoroughly enjoy one another. I wouldn't see it that way. |
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I just want to know if this girl even has a clue how much it costs to charter a jet. Since you want to know, yes, I do. I also know how much my last boyfriend spent on an anchor for his yacht and the price tag on his car collection, but those things don't really matter to me. I value home and family. |
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would you be willing to keep finances completely separate and sign a prenuptial agreement in case the marriage failed? Prenups are insulting. I'd never sign one. Of course you wouldn't... Are you smart enough to sign one |
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Are you writing all this down yet? The ladies here are talking to you. Us guys are dissin' you hard!!!!! Listen to the ladies and get your head straight. What is wrong with wanting a man that can provide financial security for his family? Why are you guys 'dissin' me? Because it does not work like that!!!!! We are not your Daddy, little girl. We are MEN!!!!!! With morals and values and not boys with toys!!!!!! Get a grip!!!! You seem angry about something in this post. I don't understand why. Isn't it moral to provide for your family? I don't consider a house and having a car to drive your kids to soccer and ballet to be having toys. It's not daddy, it's hubby |
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