Well way back when before there were supermarkets on every corner, people had to get nourishment for energy from what the earth provided, that being fruit, veggies, nuts and the meat provided by the animals. They couldn't go buy a protein shake.

The Indian culture actually had much respect for all living things, including the animals that they hunted. They thanked them for their sacrifice after the kill, and saw it as a natural balance between man and beast. Wasn't about flavor.

Fast forward 'til now. Sure, we don't have to depend on meat for nourishment anymore, but I'm not giving it up. I'll thank that cow when I'm flipping the steak on the grill. A tofu burger is just not the same!

Can't blame him there! It's not exactly a trip to Disneyland to be 'contained' like that, and unfortunately that fear prevents lots of people from seeking help when they need it.

I'm glad he took that first giant step, admitting he was struggling with life. Can't blame him for that either. Life is fricken hard!

Don't think you can judge this by whether the person has a penis or vagina. Totally dependent on whether they have a heart and a conscience.

Dig it!

Good luck in your search.

No! Don't cry. You are not alone! I am here now! Let the party begin!

I jest. On the 'let the party begin' part. Still trying to pour coffee down my throat.

Good morning Massiel.

Perhaps expensive? Go compare prices and tell me eating healthy is not MUCH more expensive. To eat healthy, you best be able to double if not triple your current less healthy food budget! In a perfect world good healthy food should cost less and junkfood should cost an arm and a leg. You want an organic apple? $1.00 You want an apple danish? $5.00 But it doesn't work that way does it?



But we do need to know what are pituitary and thyroid are doing to adjust our intake accordingly. If they're not working properly, the requirements will change, and one won't know until the scale has tipped up, at which point you've become overweight, not by choice, but because you were unaware that something in your body had malfunctioned. Does that make sense? It's not necessarily a person's choice to gain weight!



No it's not, but it is impossible to know what your body requires under existing conditions because you just said requirements change with time and circumstances. Your doctor gives you steroids for instance, and this is obviously a major circumstance change. You take your meds and continue eating as you had been, doing the same things that you had been, but suddenly you're gaining weight like you'd just tripled food intake. Do you think people just somehow know intuitively that they have to reduce intake to compensate for the effects of the steroids? They don't realize it until after the weight gain occurs, so again it's not a choice they make to become overweight. And we both know gaining weight is a whole lot easier than losing it!

My feelings personally aren't hurt. I'm actually pretty healthy at 5'7" and 155 lbs, give or take. But I've taken meds and blown up like a balloon before and had to work damn hard to lose the weight. I think feelings get hurt when you simplify the issue into saying that ALL people CHOOSE to be overweight. I don't dispute the science behind your logic, just your presentation of it in saying it's a choice for everyone. Just strikes me as particularly insensitive to people who struggle with weight issues.

You! You started the (w)hole thing! I shoulda known!

Well now that I'm here and over my initial shock, I shall answer the question. I'm not saying anything about nether regions though! I will say that I don't care about how much hair is on the chest, head, or face but the back is another story. Just feel like I'm dating Chubakah or something if their back is covered.

1. Nobody said it was NOT POSSIBLE to obtain healthy food. Some of us stated it was difficult to find since quality of food has deteriorated with the introduction of HMOs, toxic pesticides, growth hormones, etc. It's also much more expensive to buy healthy organic foods and way less accessable. Negate that!

2., 3., and 4. "under existing conditions"...hmmm, let me see here. So people should just automatically know when their body is not in homeostasis and how to adjust caloric intake for that, right? For those not as brilliant as the OP, homeostasis refers to balance in our bodies. We have an optimal level for functioning and our bodies naturally try to compensate when something throws that balance off. The problem is that many things can throw the balance off...disease, medications, foods, injury, stress, illegal drugs, the list is endless. It would be IMPOSSIBLE to monitor exact caloric requirements for homeostasis under EVER-CHANGING existing conditions.

The insensitivity, IMO, glares from your one statement that I placed in bold previously, and I quote: "the condition of overweight represents a choice – a choice to overeat consistently". You can state your 'facts', add the "under existing conditions" now as your saving grace disclaimer if that makes ya feel better about yourself, but I ain't buying it. You know much about the human body but nothing about human beings. You're not dating just a mechanical body, you're dating a person with feelings no matter what size jeans they wear! But no, you are right sir and we are all wrong. Puh-leaze!

Oh no! Don't apologize. That was priceless!

Well I see that! But how does one respond after "bum bleaching virgin"? Like seriously, what could I possibly add to the conversation after that?!? Too flippin' funny! Y'all are crazy!!

Praying for you both right now.

Walked in...







...slowly walking out!

This!

No revolving door of men in my life while I raised my son as a single mom for 18 yrs. He's grown now and has so much respect for women.

I'll never forget the day we were talking and he was telling me about his buddy that had slept with this chick at a party the night before, saying how nasty it was and all, that if the chick slept with his buddy right off, who else had she slept with? "I don't want just some girl that'll screw anyone. I want a nice girl, a pretty girl, one that respects herself enough and thinks I'm special enough to make me wait. I'm not having sex with just anyone Mom. They're going to have to be super awesome to hook up with me!" he says just so matter of factly. Don't think I've ever been so proud of him, or myself! I musta done something right!

On the other hand, his buddy grew up downstairs from us, same age as my son (16 at the time), and his mom had more guys going through there then the turnstiles at Fenway Park on opening day. Children see all. It didn't surprise me that he was out getting anything he could get his hands on. Kid had serious self esteem issues. Sad really.

Parents should ALWAYS do what's in the best interest of their children. Exposing them to disappointment after disappointment isn't in their best interest, IMHO.

Agreed!

Brings to mind many quotes:

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
"There but for the grace of God go I"
"Judge not lest ye be judged"
"Until you've walked a mile in their shoes"

What's perfect for one is not perfect for another. So who is to say what perfect is...there is no definition for perfection when referring to human beings. We come in all different shapes, sizes, colors, styles, and thank God for that! How boring would life be if we were all perfect? Dating would sure be simpler though!

Ah Tawt. Please see Soufie's explanation just a few posts back. The site IS NOT doing what you think it is. And don't blame Ms Edy for my bad. She ACCIDENTALLY posted a typo with your name that I overreacted to with lots of smarmy smileys. I'm sorry for bringing it to light, and for laughing so hard. I sorely needed to laugh though, and sometimes these posts do that for me. I humbly apologize to you personally.

This site is cool, the people are cool, the forums are fun, and heck, ya might meet the right one here so bonus that. Don't jump to conclusions...read Soufie's response please.

This will seem counterintuitive but you need to find out how serious this is by asking him if he has a plan. His answer will tell you much about what you should/could do. If he has a detailed, concrete plan, "I'm going to blow my head off.", next questions... "Do you have the gun? Are you thinking of using it now?" If yes, contact emergency services immediately and send help. Keep him talking to you until they arrive. Don't think you're going to give him ideas by asking questions. There's a huge difference between having suicidal urges and actually planning it out and getting what you need to accomlish the task and calling someone just before you do it. If this is the case, he needs more help than you can offer and professionals should be contacted immediately.

However, if he's just feeling sometimes like he wants to die, this isn't as serious of an issue. Yes, he still needs help but it's not imminent and he's looking for support and advice from a friend. You can tell him that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You should get him to seek help from a psychologist or psychiatrist ASAP, explain that he's not alone and help is available to find out what's wrong, that the only real weakness is not admitting when you need help. Remind him how much you value his friendship and of the people in his life that love him and would be devastated if he took his life. Most importantly, be there to listen to him about why he's feeling so bad and encourage him to get help, tell him to contact you immediately if he ever finds himself sitting there with gun in hand.

You're a good friend if he trusts you enough to share these feelings with you. Suicide is a hard topic to discuss...scares the bejesus out of people...and rightly so. Good luck to both of you.

Excellent explanation Soufie.

This site is awesome! You mods are great. Keep up the good work!

Neither did he probably! I shoulda been a proof reader...I pick up on grammar and spelling mistakes in everything I read and usually I don't say a damn thing. I don't know why I decided to open my big mouth, but that ship has sailed already. I laughed, still can't stop actually, but at least I know I'm alive. Which should bring us back to the topic at hand...

All I could picture when I first read this topic was the scene from that Bruce Willis movie...."I see dead people!"

Well I was off on my reasoning in that your fingers were moving too fast but not in my declaration that it was unintentional. My son has dyslexia so I can sympathize and completely understand the mistake. I really shouldn't have laughed so hard but seriously, like what are the chances?!? Don't know ya too well but seen ya on here lots and read your posts. You are one of the nicest gals on here. Sorry for throwing ya under the bus, so to speak.