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Topic: The THEORY of Evolution.
Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 01/21/08 11:05 AM Edited by Dragoness on Mon 01/21/08 11:44 AM
We have witnessed the selective process in our time. So your "theory" is off by a long shot. We indeed did evolve. And we will continue to evolve. Our lifetimes are but micromilliseconds in the time on this planet. If you are going to say that creationism, or incestuous beginning of man is more a reality, I will beg to differ with you.

ZacharyRyan Joined Tue 11/20/07 Posts: 3166	Mon 01/21/08 11:08 AM
Wow...

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Mon 01/21/08 11:19 AM
If you are going to say that creationism, or incestuous beginning of man is more a reality, I will beg to differ with you. Really. Rather than just claiming that evolution can't be true, try to show that an incestuous beginning of man could be genetically possible. I think you'll quickly discover that it's an implausible scenario.

voileazur Joined Sun 03/11/07 Posts: 2140	Mon 01/21/08 11:24 AM Edited by voileazur on Mon 01/21/08 11:28 AM
Creationists and other brands of 'believers' insist on holding this false debate about 'evolution' on the foundation of competing 'beliefs' or 'faith'!!! Other brands of 'believers', meaning those whom collapse 'reality' and a word for word interpretation of the bible, as one and the same. Through a very particular spriritual phenomenon known as revelation, some become convinced of a particular 'revealed' truth. That is what is referred to as a belief. Such a 'revealed' truth, or belief, deals with collapsing the word for word meaning of a book, as the word of 'god'. That is a revealed belief, and people are free to beleive such revelations. Regardless of the belief in the end, it remains what it is: A 'REVELATION BASED BELIEF'. Based on the intangible. Based on faith. Faith, revelations and emerging beliefs, do not belong to the 'material', physical, or factual domain. Faith, revelations, and beliefs cannot be proven, nor can they be demonstrated to be scientifically true. If they were, think of it for a moment, THEY NO LONGER WOULD BE BELIEFS, ... THEY WOULD BE HARD FACTS!!! On the opposite side of the spectrum, facts never require FAITH, nor do they require any form of REVELATIONS to be demonstrated!!! Moreover, anyone presenting as a fact, something which was based on some sort of revelation, would see this alledged 'fact' relegated to domain of belief, and religious practice. No need to feel offended!!! Facts cannot attack religious beliefs, and religious beliefs cannot attack facts. There are no common denominators to connect the two domains. No amount of insinstance on the part of false phophets claiming that their beliefs are 'facts', will change this possible god given reality, that 'evolution' will never be a matter of faith, and creationism will never be a matter of fact nor science. The confusion between fact and belief, religion and science, was possibly legitimate and excusable throughout the 'dark ages'; lack of education, lack of information, etc. In 2007, confusion is no longer possible. To insist on perverting faith into fact, and and fact into faith is downright dishonest, and litterally laced with 'BAD FAITH'.

legman99 Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 181	Mon 01/21/08 11:30 AM
if in order to DO this, you need to experience it right? Wrong. And that’s your misguided thinking right there. Not much sense in reading beyond your statement quoted above because this statement shows unequivocally that you have absolutely no clue how evolution works. Therefore anything you have to say about evolution will certainly be misguided. All you did here is show that you have absolutely no clue about how evolution works. I agree 100%. I've read lots of books arguing both sides and have to say that 'intelligent design' is bunk. But, if the creationist belief helps someone get through another day, that's cool.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 01/21/08 11:43 AM
I agree with voile on this one. Creationism is a religious belief and evolution should be considered a scientific fact.

legman99 Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 181	Mon 01/21/08 11:50 AM
I agree as well

Bearsman Joined Fri 10/05/07 Posts: 318	Mon 01/21/08 02:32 PM
The creationist need to feel the power of the Dark Side. Anarkist

voileazur Joined Sun 03/11/07 Posts: 2140	Mon 01/21/08 02:34 PM
The creationist need to feel the power of the Dark Side. Anarkist Bearsman, I'm lost!!! The 'creationists' are the 'Dark Side'!!!

Bearsman Joined Fri 10/05/07 Posts: 318	Mon 01/21/08 02:36 PM
Oops!! My bad!! My hats off to you. Anarchy

toastedoranges Joined Thu 01/03/08 Posts: 11042	Mon 01/21/08 02:46 PM
The creationist need to feel the power of the Dark Side. Anarkist darkside = truth and not just blind faith?

voileazur Joined Sun 03/11/07 Posts: 2140	Mon 01/21/08 02:52 PM
darkside = truth and not just blind faith? Ah well, seen from that angle, I guess the 'creationaist' have no clue the 'Dark Side' even exists!!! :)

Bearsman Joined Fri 10/05/07 Posts: 318	Mon 01/21/08 03:03 PM
Hey ToastedO When I was talkin bout the dark side, I meant, you know............

Untamed Joined Sat 01/05/08 Posts: 126	Mon 01/21/08 05:14 PM
if in order to DO this, you need to experience it right? Wrong. And that’s your misguided thinking right there. Not much sense in reading beyond your statement quoted above because this statement shows unequivocally that you have absolutely no clue how evolution works. Therefore anything you have to say about evolution will certainly be misguided. All you did here is show that you have absolutely no clue about how evolution works. Thank you for outlining the exact amount of faith required to believe in this theory. So if evolution doesnt require something to prompt it to mutate; HOW DOES IT EVOLVE to accommodate those specific aspects??? Blood clotting just POPPED out of nowhere did it? Just like the universe? Seriously. If you had any[ clue about how evolution works you would see immediately that believing in such a theory is as LUDICROUS as believing in the long disproven theory of spontaneous generation.

ZacharyRyan Joined Tue 11/20/07 Posts: 3166	Mon 01/21/08 05:16 PM
Why do people without even basic knowledge of scientific theory insist on having these conversations? Do they take something away from it when they're done?

Untamed Joined Sat 01/05/08 Posts: 126	Mon 01/21/08 05:18 PM
yzrabbit1, You expect me to take any of your posts seriously when you start a thread claiming Jesus was not God by posting a *out of context verse; which you claimed was state by Jesus meanwhile was actually* Daniel?** Why should I take anything you say as credible?

Bearsman Joined Fri 10/05/07 Posts: 318	Mon 01/21/08 05:23 PM
Where is the kingdom of heaven? Signed God's son.

Untamed Joined Sat 01/05/08 Posts: 126	Mon 01/21/08 05:23 PM
Where do these religious freaks come from? Honestly, if you have to make up utter lies to make a case for your religious view that doesn’t say much for your religion. Clearly the religion has absolutely no merit of its own if they only way you can support it is to make up completely bogus statements about the real world just to support dogma that was clearly written by ignorant superstitious men. This is nothing short of pathetic. It just goes to show how desperate a dying religion can be. LOL Abra, Your insecurities are leaking.. If you really were content with your belief would you really feel to make such statements? If you really felt content, your reaction would be the same as a giant reacting to a dwarf attacking your shins with a tig. But here you are getting ultra defensive! Why do you feel so threatened Abra? Is this reallu such a BIG, THREATENING challenge?

Big_Jim Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 373	Mon 01/21/08 05:23 PM
Hey ToastedO When I was talkin bout the dark side, I meant, you know............ Please elaborate, I am very curious on your point of view of this "dark side." No malevolence intended, trust me.

Big_Jim Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 373	Mon 01/21/08 05:25 PM
Where is the kingdom of heaven? Signed God's son.