if God actually talks to you "feralcatlady" then tell of something God said to you that you just didn't accidently hear coming from your next door neighbor and thought it was God

geez Spidercmb ..do I have to teach you everything about your own beliefs...Christianity is a "concept" that some may or may not choose to follow...it has nothing to do with true or false ..it's a social structure to control behavior ....

Well here ya go....this one just happen Sunday at Church.....And the interesting thing...is just now...I thought of this when I read your post, and said Lord find me the piece.....He led me right to it.


Here ya go.....

When I was at church today....and the Lord brought me to my knees....I asked him to show me how to deal with this situation.....He answered so strongly and said.....Let it go.....Give it to me......and know in your heart, that I will lead you never astray, that evil, I will open your eyes when it is needed, wisdom I will give you to know that it is present, and most important that the road I have set you on is still there and you must always persevere in My Mighty precious name.

Wow...do you really believe that? Then you must doubt it and suspect that Christianity is the only way to God. Hell is being trapped by your own poorly designed arguments.

truth has no price. this theory earned this person a noble prize and being utilized in the school systems of higher education around the world. Moreover, solving the questions asked preserved in time and space of yesteryears. Gee, it should cost 500.00 (T). same principle of giving, regardless of institution.

like I said you heard nothing more then if you accidently overheard it being said by those that live next door to the church

and that's my point..don't believe a damn thing as being anything more than what it is ....see you do understand Spidercmb

I got a little theory that can tie evolution and creation together. I am not a Christian anymore, bear with me. I'm trying to help.

Your god created everything in a week, yes?

At the end of the week, he took a siesta, yes?

Six days on, one day to rest.

Your god is the ultimate power of the universe, right? Nothing is greater or more powerful. Immortal and whatnot...

Then you gotta ask yourself one question.

How long is a 'god' day? The old man put in six of them before he needed to rest. How often does the ultimate power of everything need to rest?

I'm betting that a god day is a hell of a lot longer then ours. If he took his time, making changes slowly, morphing things into the form he wanted, wouldn't that be called evolution?

Just one note, the word "rest" is misleading. The Hebrew word "shabath" means to cease working. God didn't need rest, but God did stop creating.

Well if that's your interpretation then what are we supposed to do on the Sabbath?

Clearly not 'rest' according to you.

For every explanation you give, the carpet comes up in another corner of the room.

And so it goes with this whole book.

A ‘VERBATIM” approach just isn’t doable Spider.

Nope. It ain’t gonna make it. No matter how hard you try!

Sabbath is a weekly religious day of rest as ordained by one of the Ten Commandments: the third commandment by Roman Catholic and Lutheran numbering, and the fourth by Eastern Orthodox and other Protestant numbering.

The practice is inherited from Judaism, the parent religion of Christianity; the Hebrew word Hebrew: שַׁבָּת‎ ("šhabbat"[1], read in English as shabbat) means "the [day] of rest (or ceasing)" and entails a ceasing or resting from labor. The institution of the Old Testament Sabbath, a "perpetual covenant ... [for] the people of Israel" (Exodus 31:16-17), was in respect for the day during which God rested after having completed the Creation in six days (Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11).

Yes, that's what it means exactly! The Jews were told to "stop working" on the Sabbath. They weren't confined to bedrest, they were allowed to do many things, but work wasn't one of them.

Thank you, you beat me to it.

Amazing that it has ended up here from "The THEORY of Evolution". The thread hast run amok (as do they all, when religion is involved).

Well, the bottom line as I showed unequivocally is that a verbatim 6-earth-day-creation interpretation of the Bible = a deceptive God.

So those who proclaim that the Bible must be taken verbatim are proclaiming that God deceives.

And here’s a question for you Spider,…

Why is it that you are so willing to re-translate all other interpretations (such as ‘rest’ actually meaning to simply 'stop creating'), yet, you aren’t willing to re-translate ‘day’ to mean ‘eon’ as Lording has suggested?

Clearly you are writing your own Bible via the interpretations that YOU choose!

Why is it that you cannot see your own folly in this?

You claim to be taking the Bible ‘verbatim’ but then you define what ‘verbatim’ means by your own personal choices in what you decide to accept as a translation from the original tongue. As Lording pointed out, he feels that ‘yon’ translates to ‘eon’, and not to ‘day’.

So you’re creating your own dogma with absolutely no support for your own personal choices for translations.

Moreover, why is it so important for you that the world was actually created in 6 earth days? Why do you feel that this is such a mandatory interpretation? Can you not see how this interpretation leads to a God who deceives?

Seems to me that you would want to favor interpretations that actually agree with Creation itself.

Why choose an interpretation that suggests that God is deceptive when you can just as easily choose an interpretation that favors harmony?

It’s clearly your own personal choice, yet you apparently prefer to take the negative path.

Why is that?

Not exactly correct. The covenant states that the sabbath is expressly for worshiping god. All day, sunset to sunset, everything else was forbidden. So even slaves and animals got a day to rest.

You know the ancient greeks believed that whenever they had an inspiration it came from the gods, not themselves.

You are going to have to show me where that is stated, because it's not in my Bible. On the Sabbath, you are to substitute worship for work, but you aren't limited to just worshipping. Mothers may still care for their babys. Husbands and wives may still make love. The Sabbath is a day without work, not a day of total rest.

Symbeline: I love that.......because no one should believe it comes from themselves....well they could but I don't feel warranted to think that way....jmo

Not according to my Rabbi...by the way, women don't count..they still get to do all the domestic. The worship of god is the exclusive right of men.