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what do you think? SHOULD THE USA START THE DRAFT AGAIN??
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Haven't enough of our men died without that?
PMS |
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I'm not an American so it really doesn't affect me. But don't you think
that you get a better quality of soldier from someone who volonteers with the knowledge of what is expected from him rather than forcing someone into a situation simply because he's hit the age 18. |
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i agree.. it is crazy there is people signing up all the time.. and
seems like EVERYONE i talk to is ither over there or fixing to leave to go over seas... they have plenty and if not fuckin leave... why take someone that doesn't want to go??? when there are plenty that do? |
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Actually, I have been reading that you get a better Quality Of soldier
when coscript! Because you draw from a more diverse and educated group, instead of a volunteer force. The volunteer group is made up of people that are there for mostly economical circustances! |
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Wouldn't mind reading some of that Fanta, but we do have a volonteer
force which is diverse and educated. You can't get in without your Secondary 5 (School Diploma). You don't even get to be a ground-pounder without it. The Canadian Armed Forces are still a fine military machine. |
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As is ours! But the facts are the facts!
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Still would like to read some of what you found.
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There is plenty of info! I googled it, there was a site about
congressional discussion that I thought was the most unbiased! I was writing a paper on the subject! I was for the draft, but while doing researh on it. I changed my mind 180 degrees! |
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I served in the army/volunteer for 4 years! Infantry!!!!
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I'll look for that congressional discussion you mention. Sounds like it
could be interesting. |
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I was thinking of posting my essay for you to read.
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Sure. Always enjoy reading something of interest. Canadian Armed Forces
Reserve 51st Serv. Batt., RCASC, 121st Trans. Co. and later Canadian Armed Forces Reserve 48th Highland Reg. (Black Watch) |
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November 26, 2006
A Veterans’ Point of View As a veteran of the Armed Forces, I watched the reaction to the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan and I saw a reaction similar to what I might expect at a sporting event. Instead of being shocked at the loss of life. Soldiers, civilian, and property people were watching it on the television at home, at work, and at the local pub laughing cheering and even playing armchair quarterback. Did they not understand that these were real people in real places? With families, hopes, and dreams just like them and that those American soldiers had mothers who were worried. Many of my family members have served in the Armed Forces through out the history of America, including myself. Both in war and in peacetime and there has always been a great deal of patriotism and pride in our participation and service to the country. Lately, however, I have taken notice of the younger generation in my family, and I believe that they are a good representation of the younger generation in the country. The attitude of them and the majority of their friends seem to be that they are naturally entitled to the benefits and luxuries of our society without ever doing anything to contribute. It is not just in the youth that I see this attitude, but it surrounds me everywhere I go. When I listen to broadcast on the radio or News, and even when I watch my favorite television series. Once while listening to the news I heard President Bush comment, that he was well aware that our soldiers were making a great sacrifice, but that they were all volunteers. I understand that the men and women who are risking their lives and dying are doing so voluntarily but I worry that our government and some of the citizens in this country are abusing them just because they do so. These men and women are the most patriotic of Americans and I fear they are being sacrificed to willingly and readily. Maybe we were attacked first, and maybe the war is a just cause, but if so, is not the duty of every American to sacrifice equally. Is it not everyone’s cause? If the Presidents or the congressional representatives and Senators’ sons were among their ranks marching off to war, would they be so eager to send them into harms way? If the people at the local pub knew that their children might be the next to go, would they still cheer it on as if it was the World Series or the Super bowl? If the chairperson of the board in major Industries sons and daughters were serving along side yours, would they be so willing or ready to outsource your jobs? If the young men and women of this country had to perform at least two years of national service, would they be more appreciative of the benefits of being an American? Would they have more patriotism and maturity, and vote more readily if they were required to perform two years of national service of some kind? I believe that the moral of our service members would be dramatic because they would not as, they now are, be required to perform repeated tours away from their homes, and loved ones. That alone would improve moral and make them feel more appreciated. We would also have more resources available for natural disasters like hurricane Katrina, and the many wildfires mudslides, and tornados that we have each year. We would be more able to patrol our borders, and inspect shipments at our ports, and we would create more pride in the sacrifices that our brave men and women to our country’s freedom, because we would all be making them. As a veteran I often, ask my self these questions and many more, and ponder these possibilities, and this is why I believe we should reinstate the draft. |
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I think I did that right!
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I'd say that you did that right. You get a point across without any
problem whatsoever. I agree with what you say about the attitudes of people today about the conflicts in the Iraq / Afghanistan. The media 'war' started with Vietnam though and look at what the media did there. Demoralized civilian and military alike while reporting from hotel rooms and bars. The difference now being that (with Canadian reporters / Forces at least) the media actually travel with the troops and thus give a better perspective of what happening and how the troops feel. |
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Another thing I heard from the era of Vietnam was that not one American
politician lost a son to that war. Whereas a Canadian did. |
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My Problem is that I was supposed to have a debate, and now I don't
believe it! I guess I will just concede! |
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You're not the one to concede I am. You put your arguement there, I read
it and agree. Therefore you win. I bow to you. |
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Yeah, but I've changed my stand! 180 degrees! I let you read my reply to
myself in Part 2, Yet to be typed! |
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