I am glad you let us know, Marie otherwise we wouldn't have any way of knowing. I got a crick in my neck from laying on the couch. It is a comfortable couch that is long enough for me; I just laid on it wrong and the bed is much more comfortable. I have been cleaning up after the dog. Sissy lets me know when to let her out from the piles on the carpet and when she is hungry from the trash she takes out of the trash can. I didn't get onto her this time; Just let her watch me cleaning up. I hope you can get some muscle rub to help with your back and neck.

Marie, I do hope you can feel better soon. I know you are stressed and I hope that it will pass soon and you can get some rest for yourself.

Roy, thanks for being here and talking to us so much. Thanks for sharing so much with us. It really does help.

Jax, love your sense of humor and hope that Brandon will feel better for the meds the Dr can give him to make him feel more confortable. You are a terrificc mom to stick by him like you do!

Everyone else, hello, and to the new people , welcome.

I have some things to get off my chest but I think now is not the time to rant so to speak. I just have been going through a manic stage and even skipped school today. I have foot in mouth disease lately. Thank you for the support and love ya all!

Karen

thanx marie.brandon has been diagnosed with the flu and is out till thursday.he has had this thing for over a week.sucks.motrin and liquids..

im locking down for a while.........later

bed check in 15 min

Work in 15 minutes. The night off was nice while it lasted.

Dang Rainbow - caller ID - then you could actually get your night off once in awhile. Nice to know you are needed but do I need to spell it out for you?? BURNOUT!! Sorry, didn't mean to yell, but you do need to take care of yourself. I understand the money is nice too, but I was working 3 and even 4 jobs at one time when I was first divorced, raising my daughter, worked 80 hours weeks, even more, needed the money to keep the roof over our heads and pay the bills, no child support, also felt like a compliment in a way when I was offered the work, felt like that meant they trusted me to do it, but wow, it took its toll after awhile too. Just take care of yourself. We do care about you.

Karen - sorry things are not great right now. Oh, oh, careful, here comes Jax, shhhhh, bed check. Lights out. Hope things are brighter tomorrow, well today I guess since it is after midnight now.

Jax - hope your son feels better soon, having to miss work with a sick child is hard. Take care of yourself, hope you stay healthy.

Hope everyone has a great day today. My neck is still killing me - so much for trying chiropractic - my joints are not happy with me at all. I keep hoping they will settle back to their dysfunctional, achy state they were in before and not hurt as bad as they are now. Getting massage has helped, and the heating pad, but geeez, this is ridiculous. Even bought a foam pad for my bed (finally came today - but has to fluff up before I put it on the bed) and new pillows, gotta try something to see if it helps, this waking up several times at night to change positions because I hurt really sucks. Sorry for the venting, but dang old bones are giving me crap these days. Take care and have a great day tomorrow.

Last night went well. The female couple are back and off suspension. I got to work with the other one last night. If you stand us side by side it is hard to tell whose belly is bigger. I usually was working with the smaller of the two. Don't you just hate it when people ask when its due and you aren't even pregnant? She was just as fun to work with as her friend. We cracked jokes all night and it is amazing that we got anything done. Nights like that are really nice to have. With a good helper it doesn't even seem like work at all. Got a new resident in and she didn't like the sound tht her oxygen machine was making and we tried to explain to her that we couldn't turn the machine off because if we did the oxygen wouldn't go into her tube. Some of the oxygen machines we have are noisy. She kept telling me to turn the noisy thing off. I got the nurse so she could try to explain it. So the nurse tried her best to explain it to her. Told her that it took a doctor's okay to turn it off. Eventually she must have gotten the resident to understand because she stopped asking us to turn it off. It was a really nice night all things considered.

Well, I guess i have hit bottom. Haven't been to school al week. I am going in to modle though. I promised and I keep my promises. If I have to be here, I guess I have to keep them. Seems so many are hitting rock bottom lately.....wish I wasn't oneof them but this is the reason I created this thread in the first place. My problems are chemical, so I have nothing to do but wait for them to pass or do the dirty deed. Even when they pass I always have one problem or another. Either manic or drpressed or in some kind of mixed episode. I really am tired and have no way to fix this. I was told by my dr that I would be like this for the rest of my life. Geezzzers, what a life to look forward to. Who the hell wants to be with someone who goes through the thigns I do? Makes for a dreay life and no good outcome. I am seriously tired of this. Constantly fighting something or another. I try to be strong but sometimes it just wears me out and its been happening way too often lately. I cant stay home all the time. It makes things worse. If they can get worse.

I wish I had some way to make it better for you, Karen. You certainly are having your share of misery and then some. About all that any of us can do is to show up for life sometimes. I am sure you are like me and trying to make the best of a bad situation. I was talking to one of the girls last night about their suspension. She was telling me that they have had the worse run of luck. First the transmission went out on their van; Then her friend's parents house got blew away in the tornado and the parents stayed with them. Next since they missed so much work they had all the new furniture payments and her friend bought the new car. Then they had trouble with the new car. I went to their their house one night which is like in Bum****, Eqypt in the boonies. I told them that I could never find it in the night time because their were just too many turns to get there. The administrative assistant told them if they missed any more that to not even worry about coming because they will be fired. They have both have had bad luck with men in their life. One of them asked me for some gas money and told me not to tell the other one. She is the one that usually gives me a hug each day when she comes in. Since she was gone a week I told her that she still owes me six hugs. Some days it doesn't even pay to get out of the bed in the waking time. I used to say mornings but I work third shift. I pray comfort for you.

Huge Post coming...

Lisa's Parents,

I'm writing this letter because I don't want to leave with anyone thinking I'm a bad guy or a horrible person. I want to apologize for alot of things I've told your daughter and all the trouble that I've caused, I know it was wrong of me but let me also give you my point of view of things. Last December of 2006 before Lisa went off to College I asked her if we could be boyfriend girlfriend because I was afraid that she might fall for another guy at college, she agreed to it under one curcumstance and that was that I promise to work on my depression. I had medication for it and I am at fault for hurting your daughter during our relationship, I failed to take my medication I thought that being in a relationship would make me happy and would help my depression diminish. I was wrong it didn't but I won't blame myself for all of this, I like your daughter alot but theres been alot of times I've been told one thing then been let down my friend Cody can vouch for it. I was nice about it when things came up and didn't make it a big deal but it happened quit often and it started to hurt me and it caused me to get down in the dumps some. Well about Valantines day I asked her if she loved me, and once again I got shot down I had high hopes but not once during the whole relationship did she love me. I asked her about a kiss one time and she told me she wasn't comfortable with it so I told her it was cool and didn't force the subject and just backed off and wasn't going to bring it up untill she felt like it. What hurt me on this subject is recently her friend Stephany (whom by the way has never really liked me) came on after I got out of the hospital and told me "Lisa kissed Trevor already and is only staying your friend so you don't go and try to kill yourself again" well my heart got broken again and I lashed out that day, I wanted it to be over it felt like 10,000 needles peirced my heart. She told me that no guy had ever kissed her before and I was looking forward to making our first kiss special, because I had never kissed a girl in my life ether. I asked Lisa about it and she told me that Trevor had kissed her and that she got mad at him, then she also told me that I could of kissed her anytime... after she told me she didn't like it and wasn't comfortable with it so I didn't ever kiss her for that reason I respected her. Anyways back in September in the middle of the month was when she dumped me, she told me we both need to go work on problems and that this was just a temporary break up. What hurt me the most was we got in a argument about Trevor on myspace, I seen them flirting back and forth for quit some time so I got scared and a little concerned so I asked her about it and was kinda heart broken about it, if she would of just told me it was a friend and nothing to worry about I wouldn't of stressed so bad. I know it was wrong of me to get upset for that reason but thats one of my problems is jealousy, I've got a huge heart and I'm very sensative and it doesn't take alot to hurt me bad. That night I guess she had some midterms she was studying for and I didn't know it or I wouldn't of even brought the subject up but anyways it lead to a fight and she dumped me, I was upset so I told her to go do what she wanted and go see other guys like she wanted to (I thought we was done, I was crying and hurting and I didn't really want her to but told her to cause she wanted to). She told me she felt guilty at dances and stuff and didn't dance, I told her she shouldn't of and that I wouldn't care if she went and had fun, thats all I wanted for her was for her to be happy and to have fun. Anyways about a week and a half later after the breakup I got curious and asked Trevor on myspace if he knew Lisa (The guy I seen her flirting with and was jealous over) and he responded saying "Yea I know her we are tenatively dating" and I fell apart. A while later I sat down with her in my car before we went into my house and I asked her "Do you want us to work out?" she said "Yes" then I asked her why she was dating Trevor and she said it was something she had to do that she had to fix for herself that it would scare me away if she did it with me, so I got confused and upset and couldn't figure out what Trevor could do that I couldn't so I got hurt. The same night I leaned my head against the steering wheel and started to cry because my heart hurt and I was crushed, I love your daughter very much to think of her getting in the car with another guy, hugging another guy, kissing another guy, anything just rips me apart and I start crying. I tryed to be stronge, I tryed to overcome my jealousy and I bothered your daughter with alot of questions and she would reassure me over and over that he was just a friend and that I had nothing to worry about. She told me that he was an athiest and that she wants a temple marriage so that she didn't think it would work out. No matter how hard I tryed to not think about it it still hurt me. When she dumped me and started seeing Trevor I became ill, I couldn't eat, couldn't play, just became horribly depressed. Eventually I started to try to back out of the relationship and everytime I tryed to Lisa would tell me "The doors always open, I'll always be here as your friend even if you don't want me as a friend" that would kill me and I don't have the heart to do that to her, I couldn't leave on my own no matter how hard I tried but staying knowing she was seeing him was making me ill and was really tearing me apart, I've cryed almost every day since she left me. You guys probably think I'm obsessed with her, its not really that its just that shes basicly my twin and everything I do reminds me of her. I loved history, shes majoring in it, I love japanese animations, she loves them, we like the same type of games, music, movies, and food. When she would come over I would always go buy root beer for her and would usually get pizza or something she liked and would clean my house and do my yardwork before she would come over just to try to respect a ladys presence. Now I'm going to be totaly honest here. When I first met your daughter I had the hardest time getting a date with her because of her previous relationship but I still hung on because shes one of the coolest people I've ever met. I hung out with her at the monroe library and at gamestop. There was times I would bring her lunch and just drop by to say hi, we would play email tag and talk when I went to work. Now about my Job, I have been working for the State of Utah watching systems for them as a computer operator for 5 years now, this job is like one of the worste nerve wracking jobs out there, this facility is manned 24/7 even on holidays and we have been under employed for a while now. Theres always only one person on shift so when your working your alone and when nothings going on your usualy free to do what you want as long as you still do your job. I stay at this job even though its bad on my nerves and is very lonely because I know that someday it will be a great job to have to support a family. It has killer insurance, benefits, and all those are the reasons I stay here and it has allowed me to buy my own home with my pay. I work Sundays for 12 hours 11:30-11:30 and thats why you havn't seen me in church, I work M-W from 3:30-11:30 and Thursdays from 3:30-7:30. When overtime kicks in there are times here at my job where I can work two weeks straight with no time off, my job can drive anyone insane if you don't have anything to keep you busy or anyone to talk to. Now to show you guys my problem and why I've been down in the dumps alot and why I pushed your daughter away from me, by heart I'm a good kid I love the church but when I was growing up I've had a rough childhood and a rough time in school. Kids would tease me and words would get said on the schoolbus and I didn't know what they meant so I looked them up and found out... well they wasn't anything good. One time in my keyboarding class in highschool I was ahead of the class and was just browsing the web, well a kid I knew came over and wanted to show me something and he showed me a real skimpy site with girls on it. From there out I fell and I fell hard, I got into the thing the church talks about alot and says its very bad, I fell into porn. The problem here is I learned alot of what I know from Steve Robertson, after he taught me the basics in computers I took off like a forest fire and now I've become to smart for my own good. Anyways I've been struggling with this problem since I was about 14 or 15 so about 10 years of my life, I told Lisa about this in the very beginning because I felt like a bad guy but I didn't give any details as in how long I have been fighting this issue. And later I had some girls in highschool pick on me and say stuff bad about my family and thats when I fell apart and broke the word of wisdom and picked up a bad swearing habit and told them off. My problems are: Low Self Esteem, Shyness, Pornography, Swearing, and Caffine. I had a dr.pepper habit for the longest time lately I've been trying to shy away from soda and the pornography I know both is bad but let me be honest with this and I don't want to sound better than anyone but I have two friends that went on missions, one came back and got married and brought his laptop to me to fix, I found pornography all over it when I was backing up his system to fix it. Another friend got into a relationship on his mission and when he got back got her over here in the states and married her. My therapist has also told me that Bishops and higher people in the church has had problems with the same things. But heres the difference with me and them, I knew and acknowledged the problem and have been trying my hardest to fight them but havn't really won yet, I didn't go on my mission because of these, I don't pertake of the sacerment for this reason, I don't pay my tithing or go to church till I can shake this stuff off and feel better about myself. I really do love the church, I wanted to go on my mission, I wanted to be married in the temple, I wanted to be sealed to someone special someday I was hoping your daughter was the one for me but I've goofed up way way bad and I don't blame her for what shes doing. I'm sure you guys heard about my suicide attempt(s) or my threats to. I'm really sure I've lost alot of respect with you guys and I wouldn't be suprised if you don't like me anymore, I won't blame anyone or hate anyone ever in my life. I'm like my Dad my barks alot bigger than my bite. The whole reason behind my first suicide was because of the decision I got put into, I love your daughter alot but also have my limits, my heart is sensitive and I can only take so much pain and not to be rude and I know she didn't mean to but she locked me in a circle I couldn't get out of, I was hurting so bad and crying at work one night and going insane that I overdosed on 30 extra strength Tylonal. Heres the choices I had: 1.Cut all communications with Lisa, she gets upset and becomes sad that I leave, then she trys to keep a one sided friendship open. 2. Stay and try to overcome my broken heart, depression, and jealousy. 3. Neither and do what my childhood friend did and kill yourself over a girl. I didn't like choices one and two and I couldn't do ether of them and trust me I really didn't like choice number 3 but after Lisa's mom told me I was hurting Lisa and that Lisa told me I made her suffer for 5-6 months in our relaitonship my heart got crushed and I loved Lisa so much that when she would tell me "My doors always open and I'll always be your friend" I couldn't leave, I couldn't do that to her but staying was killing me to so I was in a no win situation. I wanted out of my pain and I admit I did the stupidest thing by trying to commit suicide. From there on out things only got worse and worse and Lisa started to get real tired of me and I'm sure you guys did to, I had her gifts bought because of a bonus check I got a while back and had them planned from October up to Decemeber, I thought our relationship was over and that I wasn't wanted anymore cause she was seeing Trevor and wasn't doing anything to stop me from hurting, so I gave her it all and was going to pull off that night. I know its not that great of a friend of me to ask and wasn't my place but going from being boyfriend and girlfriend to friend status after 9 months hurt alot, I thought I could handle it but I was wrong I'm not stronge enough. I've talked to my bishop about my problems, I've talked to my parents, had my uncles give me a blessing to help me try to overcome this and have been doing alot of praying. I asked her to please stop seeing Trevor and to give me one more chance, I didn't say she couldn't talk to him, hang out with him, or anything like that but the word "Date" can lead to many things and after he called me immature, jealous, and told me I don't stand anymore chances with Lisa it hurt me and I didn't like him and the other thing I don't like and I'm not trying to be a problem but hes 30 and hes an athiest. I'm not sure how you guys feel about that and I know its not my area to judge but he don't believe in anything the church really does so he scares me. I trust Lisa I do but shes kinda blowing my socks off at the same time, I thought she wanted a temple marriage and stuff, what is she doing with him? Thats what I've been trying to figure out. He probably don't think porn, sleeping at ones place, or anything like that is bad. I know its all bad, but he doesn't and thats what scares me. Anyways I've told your daughter off twice now and I said alot of rude things, I wanted to ether be her boyfriend or be done with our friendship. I know she meant well to stay friends but where I am so in love with your daughter it hurts to just be a friend after being a boyfriend, I wanted to be let go so I wouldn't feel guilty about going but she wouldn't do it, she would always tell me "I'll always be here as your friend and my doors are always open" I couldn't go, my heart wouldn't let me and I got stuck in a loop that keep throwing me through alot of hurt. She told me I have problems, yea I know I have them and have been working to fix them. I wanted to say sorry to you guys and to her for everything I've done and said, I lashed out honestly because I had a broken heart and wanted her to go away since she wouldn't stop seeing Trevor, I did it to try to get her to hate me and de friend me, it was wrong but keeping me as a friend was also wrong espeacially if she knew she was hurting me. I've taken your daughter, her sister, and roomate steph to Denny runs a couple of times when I was broke, taken her to Orem for valantines day and got her some real nice flowers, taken her to Cedar City for dinner and a movie, bought her pizza and soda all the time on weekends and cleaned my house, tryed to respect her with all my heart, would jump in a heartbeat to do something for your daughter, broke my own laptop to repair hers, spent my whole weekend recovering her laptop's data and repairing it and stayed up till 4 in the morning sunday morning fixing it and had to be up at 10 for work and delivered it that day, bought her games, payed for a games subscription, payed for sirus radio for a while that she never used, offered her my second car when her car broke down, and offered her a promise ring once and got shot down. Money, Possessions, and everything seriously means nothing to me, I could care less about them all and would trade anything in the world and give my shirt off my back to someone just to be loved, thats all I care about is love and to find someone to make happy and to be happy with, I would trade everything I have to be with a girl like your daughter, I wish I was stronger and would of been a better man before I met her. Lisa is an awesome person, I love her to death and I seen everything she tryed to do for me and she tryed to reassure me but I was to heartbroken and upset she was seeing Trevor it was breaking my heart. I deserved it though, she said I made her suffer, I broke my promise to work on my depression, and I tryed to push her away because of my problems was causing me guilt and I would tell her to find a better guy. The things that hurt me the most in the relationship was she turned me down on the promise ring ( I thought it was a friendship ring but goofed up ), didn't want me to kiss her, let me down on alot of planned activitiys, and said things then other things happened and was a let down. I know she tryed but there was a lot of little things she could of did to make me feel wanted and to get me out of my depression, she never once seen me at my work, never bought me lunch or even anything simple (she bought me one thing and it was some mints that said heartache medicine or something for valantines day), never came over on her own and suprised me, missed my birthday, got my hopes up alot and got me excited then smashed them. I know she didn't mean to but it all adds up, she just didn't seem to try all that hard and I got depressed and hurt alot, I got my heart broke alot so not all of this was my fault. I like Lisa alot I do but dumping me was something I never seen coming, that hurt the most I didn't know we was having any problems at all, we lacked communication. I wish you guys the best of luck and you all have my best wishes, and I don't mean to get Jerad in trouble but he honestly did say that about his sister and I did call her that also, when my temper gets released and my I'm confuesd, upset, heartbroken and jealous its a bad combination and I said alot of rude and harsh things. I just wanted to come and tell you my side of the story, I'm sorry it was a novel, and at the very bottom of my heart I'm very very sorry for swearing at your daughter and hurting her like I have done, I promise you and swear to you I never wanted to but having a heart and being tender sucks, it fogs my decision making skills and where I liked her I didn't want to leave her especialy when she tryed to stay my friend and told me it would hurt her. At the end she told me that everything I did was for me and not for her, and that hurt me alot. I never ever had just me in mind, I loved Lisa very much and I still do and lately I havn't been a good friend at all and have been being a jerk, I've been stuck in a situation that has completely devistated me and to this day I'm still heartbroken, cry, and am hurt by my own actions and hurt that I lost such a great person like her to another guy but then again I deserve it. Goodluck to you all, it was very nice to meet you its been an honor your all great people and I'll miss you all. Once again I'm sorry for all the trouble I've caused and sorry for hurting your daughter, I wish I was a stronger and better guy, Trevor is a lucky man and you are lucky parents to have such a great daughter and family. Take care and best wishes, I hope you don't hate me or think bad about me.

-Lance


Thats something I wrote her parents. I went in and talked to a different therapist today... I don't think I'm fixable. They guy was right the thing I want to change the most I don't have the power to do, neither does he or anyone else.

82280 - everyone is fixable, with time. You are still hurting over your breakup and your depression is severe right now. You are not looking at the future or anything past your exgirlfriend. Give yourself time and a chance to heal. I am not sure what this therapist told you, but wonder what kind of therapist he was. You need to take time to heal, time to work on your feelings and issues, and take that time. If you need medications, you need to take them and regularly so they will work. They will help you think more clearly. If the relationship was not meant to be, nothing will make it work. It sounds like it was one-sided and she did not feel the same way. You have identified issues you are working on, concentrate on them now and make yourself better, deal with your depression and work on your other issues, take on one at a time. Everything takes time. There is a woman out there for you, you just need to work on your depression and other issues so you feel ready to meet her. Right now you are hurting too much. Have you talked to someone in your church? Find some support. It sounds like you are alone all the time, that sounds like part of the problem, loneliness makes depression worse. Find some friends to spend your time away from work with. Talk to your doctor and see if your meds are the appropriate ones, and take them on schedule so you will feel better. Take care of yourself. Things will get better with time.

You need friends, Lance. I think that is what was missing from the relationship - friendship. Anyone that can put that much of themself in a letter is definately sensitve and I would have to say honest. To write to her parents definately shows that you have feelings for her. I would say that maybe the type of relationship you wanted to have with her was different than the relationship she wanted to have with you. From reading the letter you seem like a sincere person. What helped me the most in the last three years of my wife's passing was the friendships that I have made. If I were I you I would make as many friends as you can. Don't rush into a relationship. If one comes let it come naturally. Marie has some excellent advice. I would have to agree with Marie with it being onesided on the letter itself. It seems that you may of thought subconsciously that her parents would understand your intentions more than she would have. Yeah, lonliness definately. I married my first wife just because we were compatible. I thought compatible was enough; That and sex. Sex, compatibilty and the fear of being alone isn't enough. I think that is why so women on the forums have mentioned friendship as being a good start in a relationship. Making yourself better makes sense because when you do find the right one you will be ready for her. I have this friend at work. Last week she was going with someone after breaking up with her boyfriend and now this week she is going to get married to the boyfriend she broke up with. Some people are fickle.

I know a lot about depression. from experience and mania and crazy... i can say whats with me!!!

hi brighteyes.how are the kids?

I get the greatest kick out of this lesbian couple I work with. When one of them is off work the other one calls in to tell the other one to give me the message of the one that didn't came in that they love me. I think it is a fatherly kind of love that they are referring to. It reminds me of that song by George Michaels called, "Father Figure". It is like they trust me in their world. It is like a warm feeling.

My one good thing today. My instructor showed me how to make hands in clay and hair too. It will come in handy to keeping working on my project.

I am glad you had one good thing, Karen. I am still trying to think of one. I am so exhausted. I shouldn't have any trouble passing out; I mean going to sleep. Okay, actually I have a few good things. The aide coming in believed me and was compassionate enough to help me get my job done so I could go home. The new aide did all the charting so we could leave. The waitress at the coffee shop that used to work at the home gave me a hug. I think waitresses are awesome. Imagine somebody waiting on me for a change. Have to be careful, though, my first wife was a waitress. Geez, don't want to go through, again, Yeah, that was how I got into trouble in the first place; I was hungry. Good thing there lots of waitresses. But, I digress. Oh, yeah it is time for me to pass out now. Hope everybody has a better day than the one I had last night. I wouldn't wish that on my worse enemy. Good bye cruel world, flush.

The rest did me good. I am not sure if the hardest thing I dealt with last night was trying to help so many and it just started to drain me or trying to be supportive of the new aide I was working with. I was really living the father figure type of persona. The new aide asked me if she could live at my house with her boyfriend. It kind of took me for a shock because my house is such a mess with trying to paint it. Her boyfriend doesn't have a job; He has trouble getting one because of DWIs but she says she loves him and wants to get married. I gave her information about the treatment center. I told her that even though she loved him that she needed to think what was best for her. She was already angry with him that day before coming in to work. I did make progress because she was writing the information to him in a letter while we were on break. I told her that him paying his fines and making restitutions was a good thing and to encourage him to keep doing so but before she thought of marriage to him that he should be able to support her or atleast be able to support himself. Although it would be nice not to have to live here alone having a couple living with me would really complicate my life. I guess I have gotten used to living alone. I hope he tries treatment for his sake even though I have never met him. She was going on three hours sleep and has been sick lately. I know when I don't get proper rest I have to pay for it. The body catches up with you when you deprive it of sleep. I just don't want her to make a mistake that she will regret later. I asked her if she had a place to stay and she said she was living with her folks but he didn't have a place to stay. I basically told her that was his problem not hers. Bad way to start a marriage if you ask me. I would say the guy she is thinking of getting married to needs to have his own place and making it on his own before he brings her into the picture. I guess I still have some old fashioned values left in me. It surprises me.

I think the biggest laugh I got out of this kid is while she was dating the 31 year old one and she found his ex wife in his bed while she went over to visit him. She and the ex wife just didn't get long. The ex wife just didn't like her. I think it was a jealously thing and once the ex wife seen she had competition developed an interest in her ex. Then the next day the kid is back with the boyfriend talking about mariage. I was going to say kid you lost me. She still likes the 100 Nikes. I was thinking about telling her to save her money and get her a house with a big closet and start collecting shoes but I wasn't sure how she would take it. I did get her to laugh though when I told her, "Well, atleast you got some real nice shoes out of the fiasco."