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SerenityBreeze
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Thu 05/18/23 11:53 AM
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We already do live forever. Once Consciousness comes into being it continues in various vehicles (bodies)
Now if you mean live forever in this body and this life...no not really, not that it's not a great body and a fascination life, but because there's a vast universe of infinite possibilities out there, many planets and species to explore this universe through their species lens and vehicle in. It's the changes and perspectives and evolution of consciousness that make Eternity awesome, not staying in one body and burying everyone you've ever known and watching a species make the same old mistakes every generation - that's actually maddening. lol Human is pretty cool, and it's a heck of a journey, but there's just so much more I want to experience too. Rinse and repeat until all that can be learned through a particular lens then change lens's (bodies). Now that's the way to explore the Universe! All perspectives one at a time. I don't fear death at all, it's just a transition, energy just changes states, it doesn't cease. |
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Id totally be down
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I think in the other life clean of greed and evils but here no way
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This is a tough one.
On one hand, you can witness evolution and the advancement of technology. On the other, constantly falling in love and watching them die after years together. |
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The only thing that scares me more than death is the thought of eternal life. That idea totally terrifies me. Everything eventually dies, not even the stars are eternal. Our own sun will eventually burn out, so any eternal humans will have to find another planet orbiting another star, until that star either burns out, or explodes in a supernova. And then, we will have to find another place to go, moving from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy over billions of years, until there's nowhere left. According to the second law of thermodynamics, which is the foundation of modern physics, disorder (entropy) increases with time. That means the universe is expanding, getting colder, and it will eventually be a cold dead void, with no stars providing heat and light. The expanding universe is not a theory, it has been confirmed beyond any doubt by astronomical observations of the red shift and measurement of the cosmic microwave background. And, if we do manage to hang around for the final act, then what the hell are we going to do with nowhere left to go? We are eventually going to die anyway, so why prolong the inevitable. The cycle of life and death is what powers evolution, if we interfere with that, then the human race will stop evolving and stagnate. My personal belief is that the human mind and body are incapable of going on indefinitely, even if it turns out to be possible. And, supernatural ideas about us having an immortal soul are just speculation in my opinion. I'm not signing up for anybody's idea about a life after death that doesn't include a physical living body, and no physical living body can outlive the universe. As far as I'm concerned, what we do with the time we have on earth, is much more important than how much time we have. Death is not to be feared, death is what makes life precious.
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We already do live forever.
For starters i recommend checking out the following trailer about near death experiences, which is also already scientific field of research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_YcxMk28diM |
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Honestly, I am not able to grasp “forever”. It’s much easier for me to say I’d like to live ...longer. Let’s say aging slows down and we are able to live to say 200, I’d go for that. While the world holds much to explore, it’s really my kids and grandbabies that bring me the most joy and to share the world a little longer with them would be utopia for me. I like this answer . It’s so complete and plausible. |
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We already do live forever. Once Consciousness comes into being it continues in various vehicles (bodies) Now if you mean live forever in this body and this life...no not really, not that it's not a great body and a fascination life, but because there's a vast universe of infinite possibilities out there, many planets and species to explore this universe through their species lens and vehicle in. It's the changes and perspectives and evolution of consciousness that make Eternity awesome, not staying in one body and burying everyone you've ever known and watching a species make the same old mistakes every generation - that's actually maddening. lol Human is pretty cool, and it's a heck of a journey, but there's just so much more I want to experience too. Rinse and repeat until all that can be learned through a particular lens then change lens's (bodies). Now that's the way to explore the Universe! All perspectives one at a time. I don't fear death at all, it's just a transition, energy just changes states, it doesn't cease. I like this answer too.It raises the question of eternity and what is it ? |
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The only thing that scares me more than death is the thought of eternal life. That idea totally terrifies me. Everything eventually dies, not even the stars are eternal. Our own sun will eventually burn out, so any eternal humans will have to find another planet orbiting another star, until that star either burns out, or explodes in a supernova. And then, we will have to find another place to go, moving from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy over billions of years, until there's nowhere left. According to the second law of thermodynamics, which is the foundation of modern physics, disorder (entropy) increases with time. That means the universe is expanding, getting colder, and it will eventually be a cold dead void, with no stars providing heat and light. The expanding universe is not a theory, it has been confirmed beyond any doubt by astronomical observations of the red shift and measurement of the cosmic microwave background. And, if we do manage to hang around for the final act, then what the hell are we going to do with nowhere left to go? We are eventually going to die anyway, so why prolong the inevitable. The cycle of life and death is what powers evolution, if we interfere with that, then the human race will stop evolving and stagnate. My personal belief is that the human mind and body are incapable of going on indefinitely, even if it turns out to be possible. And, supernatural ideas about us having an immortal soul are just speculation in my opinion. I'm not signing up for anybody's idea about a life after death that doesn't include a physical living body, and no physical living body can outlive the universe. As far as I'm concerned, what we do with the time we have on earth, is much more important than how much time we have. Death is not to be feared, death is what makes life precious. Beautifully put, well thought out, precise and complete. |
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The only thing that scares me more than death is the thought of eternal life. That idea totally terrifies me. Everything eventually dies, not even the stars are eternal. Our own sun will eventually burn out, so any eternal humans will have to find another planet orbiting another star, until that star either burns out, or explodes in a supernova. And then, we will have to find another place to go, moving from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy over billions of years, until there's nowhere left. According to the second law of thermodynamics, which is the foundation of modern physics, disorder (entropy) increases with time. That means the universe is expanding, getting colder, and it will eventually be a cold dead void, with no stars providing heat and light. The expanding universe is not a theory, it has been confirmed beyond any doubt by astronomical observations of the red shift and measurement of the cosmic microwave background. And, if we do manage to hang around for the final act, then what the hell are we going to do with nowhere left to go? We are eventually going to die anyway, so why prolong the inevitable. The cycle of life and death is what powers evolution, if we interfere with that, then the human race will stop evolving and stagnate. My personal belief is that the human mind and body are incapable of going on indefinitely, even if it turns out to be possible. And, supernatural ideas about us having an immortal soul are just speculation in my opinion. I'm not signing up for anybody's idea about a life after death that doesn't include a physical living body, and no physical living body can outlive the universe. As far as I'm concerned, what we do with the time we have on earth, is much more important than how much time we have. Death is not to be feared, death is what makes life precious. Everything connected to eternity is eternal. So eternal beings do not have wait for the final act, nor for the universe or planets to dwindle or die or burn out with nowhere to go. Eternal humans cannot live in a natural world. They will live in an eternal world, where life and the Cosmo will be eternal,with no ending. A life without rot, decay, destruction, chaos, sorrow and death. It can be difficult to grasp such a concept with our finite minds but with an Infinite Eternal Creator all things are possible. |
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Honestly, I am not able to grasp “forever”. It’s much easier for me to say I’d like to live ...longer. Let’s say aging slows down and we are able to live to say 200, I’d go for that. While the world holds much to explore, it’s really my kids and grandbabies that bring me the most joy and to share the world a little longer with them would be utopia for me. From a Christian perspective, there will be a time in the future refer to as the Millennium where humans beings will have longevity, living for a couple hundred years. Life under 100 years will be consider a curse. Eternity follows when the nations are judge and the world is cleansed. |
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The future will be will be .... right now I am thinking of watching a movie tonight with my girlfriend ..Can anyone recommend a nice girlfriend?????
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I would love to live like that
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I figure I'll die in my 70's.
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early 70's for me
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early 70's for me Uh, the closer you get to your 70's the larger the chance you will change your mind. |
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I'd very much like to live on into the future if only to see what becomes of us.
With a near infinite lifespan novelty would keep you occupied for a very long time but eventually most everything would become repetitions on a theme and at that point living might not be as desirable as it once seemed or one might decide that the last novelty is to experience death. As to how old or at what age I would prefer to be - old enough to know better but still young enough not to care. With longevity hopefully comes wisdom, so the primary concern would be what physical age presents the most options for novelty - which I believe to be around 25-30 years old. You've escaped the raging hormones of youth, you still have all the stamina in the world, and wouldn't yet have started to notice that metabolic decline that characterizes aging. Plus, on the ego side, 25-30 is probably the age you would be most attractive to friends and partners - both young and old. The final consideration is of course whether you would be a unicorn or whether or not there existed others like you who also are near-immortals. Losing friends and especially those whom you love deeply would be an incessant and terrible burden - one which you MIGHT finally become inured to - but probably not when it comes to losing someone you love deeply. If there are others then it seems likely that group would become self-contained just to avoid the envy or hatred of normally mortal folks, which seems to me a rather limiting and shallow existence and results in far less novelty, which is my primary motivation for wanting to be near-immortal to begin with. You would be caught in a trap of living outside the group and experiencing the losses that would be so heartbreaking and lead to depression, or staying within the group and never experiencing a wide range of emotions that only the "headed for dying" can fully understand. It is truly a complex philosophical idea that could engage one for an eternity & still never produce a definitive answer. |
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Very comprehensive and well considered answer.
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... With longevity hopefully comes wisdom ... Unfortunately, age does not bring wisdom. It may do so, but it's unlikely. Basically, if you're a fool at 15, you'll still be a fool at 85 or 95 or whatever. |
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