the genders especially see things with different values. you women see boxing as a stupid practice of violence; we men see it as a journey of entertainment, power, glory, and discipline, all of which are valuable to us. we men see soap operas as a useless waste of time; you women see them as a powerful emotional experience that teaches you life lessons or something like that.
and the most relevant explanation of all... you women have it easy when it comes to sex, dating, and relationships. all you basically have to do is choose. we men must struggle and compete with each other, not by subtle means like makeup and getting dressed, but by squeezing our brains to and beyond its limits...what gave birth to the pickup arts was this struggle,
And by the way, "i" before "e." It's spelt "Chief."


First off, don't generalize all women, I do like boxing, I dated a pro boxer for almost a year not too long ago, this is part of the problem, you generalize that all women are the same. We are not, even my best female friend who is like a sister to me, has different taste in men, will tolerate different things.

And if you think dating is easy for women, oh sweetheart, you have no idea, maybe it is when you are 18, but once you hit my age it's a whole nother ball game. We have different issues besides which is the prettiest one we want. You cannot and will not understand this at the age you are at.

And my spelling mistake, Oh I am so sorry, just one more way to put me down and belittle me, as you have done for days now because I do not take your view. It's a typo honey, look at what time it was. That's the difference in age, I only have issue with your stance and only bring up your age because it is rellvent to the debate. Your personal attacks show, like the one last night show that you don't have much to stand on and have to use any mean possible to make me faulter. I am secure enough to dismiss them.

I beg to differ.. Case in point. I'm sure I could find others that support this differing stance if I looked hard enough





Not attempt, not try.. but actually obtain.

Self explanatory. Regardless of the drivel that follows. Simply because the goal is to bed a girl.


The 'real connection' sounds optional for you here... For me? Especially in today's social climate... It is mandatory for me. But I've always been that way...even before AIDS was a threat.




Yet now.. the goal is the game.

Nope.. nothing altered.

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These statements tend to conflict with each other. Grammatically though..you have disclaimed them by using words like most and experienced..





How is this possible..If women do not have a grasp on who they are.. how do they know what they want?

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My personal favorite:



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This one is pretty good too.




I could go on...

oh boy, I'd first like to state the painfully obvious, I sure didnt explain this subject well at all.


I never meant to say "I aint your *****" in a offensive manner. Its supposed to be taken light heartedly.


I'd also like to state why I posted this thread. It is not because I am bitter. I'm just tired of seeing all these posts on here of the "Nice Guy saying He is being Screwed."

What I am trying to say is. If what your doing is not working try a different approach. I'm not saying be someone you're not, I'm saying you need to get some backbone in you and try from a different angle. Only then will, you be able to recognize the faults in your previous approach.

I'd also like to state that, even though I've never been in a "Real" Relationship, Yes, I've had my heart broken and after that I held this high wall of armor to prevent that sort of thing from happening again. But that should not negate the fact of what I'm saying. Some of You say I Lack Experience, please define experience. Because from the angle I'm looking at I have experienced a lot with the short time I've spent on this earth.

Also I know I sounded like an asshole in my first post, i again apologize. It wasn't supposed to be taken that seriously with the example I gave. It was supposed to be taken in a sarcastic tone and as I explained on a previous page, sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet.

I can't believe I just read all that crap

You'll never get that hour back you know!

Does for me.

Im feeling like a princess right now.......please pass my tiara????

<<<~~~~~~~~~~ passing Gypsy her tiara

I dare ya

Me too. Sarcasm is an art, and not everyone is an artist.

Thank you Nicki......

I was waiting for some guru to tell me to go get it my self and that he wasnt my b*tch!!!

Hey Gypsy, I'll get it for you, cuz that's what civilized people do... but I'm still not your b**ch!

but I want a b*tch........man slave.......ooooooooooooh I get shivvers just thinking about it!!!

I am putting it on my X-Mas list as we speak

Not man slave so much for me, but a cabanna boy... yummy!

Cabana boy!!!!!!

We should probably have Edukated and Chief do the job.

Does that position come with benefits?

Those two will be too busy either reading a book, or writing about picking up women to actually recognise they are amongst women.

Oh it comes with benefits. Ya, your probably right, they would just read about how to get a woman, and still never REALLY get one.