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Topic: A Desperate Agenda
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Tue 09/25/18 07:21 PM
Thats not how it works. Unless there is a conflict like a relative, friend, or employee of the defense. each side has only a limited number they can excuse. The Defense can have jurors that they didnt like just like the prosecution can, but thats not the point of the thread.

definition of race is not a race card, any more than definition of gender is a gender card. I only stated the make up of the jurors.



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Tue 09/25/18 08:35 PM

Thats not how it works. Unless there is a conflict like a relative, friend, or employee of the defense. each side has only a limited number they can excuse. The Defense can have jurors that they didnt like just like the prosecution can, but thats not the point of the thread.

definition of race is not a race card, any more than definition of gender is a gender card. I only stated the make up of the jurors.





Since it was mentioned in this thread,

Minnesota Democratic chairman says Ellison probe wrapping up

"ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Minnesota’s Democratic Party chairman said Monday that he expects an investigation of allegations of physical abuse against Rep. Keith Ellison to be completed and released soon, well ahead of the November election".

http://apnews.com/7715d483b515431592d1107ece9025e0


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Tue 09/25/18 08:39 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Tue 09/25/18 11:44 PM
Kavanaugh became 'aggressive,' 'belligerent' when drinking, says Yale freshman roommate

"Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh became aggressive and belligerent when he drank during his first year at Yale University, according to his freshman roommate".

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kavanaugh-became-aggressive-belligerent-when-drinking-says-yale-freshman-roommate


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Wed 09/26/18 12:19 AM
I think everyone has already made up their minds. Let people vote and move on.

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Wed 09/26/18 03:07 AM

Kavanaugh became 'aggressive,' 'belligerent' when drinking, says Yale freshman roommate

"Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh became aggressive and belligerent when he drank during his first year at Yale University, according to his freshman roommate".

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kavanaugh-became-aggressive-belligerent-when-drinking-says-yale-freshman-roommate




And this news Just in!!!!

*it had just been learned that college kids are partying and drinking!

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Wed 09/26/18 03:54 AM
no doubt, college kids do 'party' and drink.

just like hollywood circles 'party' and take drugs

what normal people of most ages do not DO is 'party' by pinning down females and covering their mouths though.

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Wed 09/26/18 05:17 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Wed 09/26/18 05:34 PM
Ford spoke of sexual assault allegation years ago: Affidavits

"The legal team representing Christine Blasey Ford in her allegations of sexual assault against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sent four sworn and signed affidavits to the Senate Judiciary Committee Wednesday from Ford’s husband and friends, all of which state that Ford told them about the alleged assault before Kavanaugh was named as President Donald Trump's pick for the life-long appointment".

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ford-spoke-sexual-assault-allegation-years-ago-affidavits/story?id=58094885

Brett Kavanaugh Says “I Said and Did Things in High School That Make Me Cringe Now” as Even More Disturbing Allegations Emerge

In part,


"In a disturbing new allegation, Swetnick also claims that Kavanaugh and Judge were among the boys who spiked the punch at parties with drugs or grain alcohol in an attempt to “cause girls to lose their inhibitions and their ability to say ‘no.’ . . . I also witnessed efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh, and others to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be ‘gang raped’ in a side room or bedroom by a ‘train’ of boys,” Swetnick says in the sworn declaration. “I have a firm recollection of seeing boys lined up outside rooms at many of these parties waiting for their ‘turn’ with a girl inside the room. These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh.” (This corroborates the allegation recently made in The New Yorker by Elizabeth Rasor, Judge’s former girlfriend of about three years, that Judge “had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman.”)


From here,

http://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/brett-kavanaugh-says-said-did-173727104.html

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Wed 09/26/18 06:39 PM
I hope that as soon as this cluster ***k of a "hearing" more like a reality version of " the Gong Show", that some low life liberals have brought upon our justice system. I hope they go straight for a nomination conformation vote. I bet he gets confirmed. Then we should have that FBI investigation to investigate the w****s bringing these false investigations and the scumbag lawmakers that have convicted him before any actual evidence has been presented. They should serve time for perverting our justice system. The voters are taking note of the deplorable , despicable lies that are coming from the democrats on a daily basis.

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/26/18 06:50 PM
Does being drunk make one a whore? Seems like Kavanaugh would fit the bill?

Has there been any statement that Blasey Ford was drunk at the time of the alleged incident?

and why is it so easy to call teens whores, but grown women who make the choice to attend playboy parties and go to bedrooms with married men credible victims?

I don't consider any female involved in drinking a whore anymore than I do a man. and I dont consider any female involved in sex a whore anymore than I do a man. Obviously, I dont consider any female mixing drinking and sex a whore anymore than I do a man.

I know there are alot of people making accusations about alot of other people. Maybe all that matters is they consider themself a victim, maybe it matters just as much if the intent was to victimize the.

I any case, I think all should be given the opportunity to explain their claims of what happened to them and let those paid or given the responsibility to judge decide if they believe it on its merit, like with Cosby.


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Wed 09/26/18 07:14 PM
Ford's supposed witnesses don't recall Kavanaugh doing anything Ford claims. Now Ford's therapist won't release anything discussed, because it violates doctor/patient`confidentiality. And now her polygraph is being called flimsy.

Swetnick. What sort of joke is this? She said she was too drunk to really recall what happened. Twenty people claim Kavanaugh wasn't even there. An old boyfriend of Swetnick's claims that she isn't credible at all. As it turns out, Swetnick had a claim against a boss at New York Life for sexual harassment. Guess who was her attorney? Linda Katz. Ford's current attorney.

Ok,Innocent before proven guilty. It would appear that some dems want to throw out that basic human right. They do that, we might as well do away with the police, and our judicial system. Gotta gun? You better have one, cause you're going to need it.

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Wed 09/26/18 07:26 PM

Does being drunk make one a whore? Seems like Kavanaugh would fit the bill?

Has there been any statement that Blasey Ford was drunk at the time of the alleged incident?

and why is it so easy to call teens whores, but grown women who make the choice to attend playboy parties and go to bedrooms with married men credible victims?

I don't consider any female involved in drinking a whore anymore than I do a man. and I dont consider any female involved in sex a whore anymore than I do a man. Obviously, I dont consider any female mixing drinking and sex a whore anymore than I do a man.

I know there are alot of people making accusations about alot of other people. Maybe all that matters is they consider themself a victim, maybe it matters just as much if the intent was to victimize the.

I any case, I think all should be given the opportunity to explain their claims of what happened to them and let those paid or given the responsibility to judge decide if they believe it on its merit, like with Cosby.


they are whores for selling their integrity , if they ever had any to begin with, but to destroy someone's credibility for the sake of a little more power is horrendous. I'd like to know how much the Democratic Party is paying these females. This is only an attempt to keep him off the Supreme Court . That's half their battle. This is why everyone needs to go to the polls in November and vote to keep republicans in the majority so the democrats can't take us back to the stale and stagnant economy that Obama was so proud of. A vote for republican is a vote for Trumps policies. A vote for democrats will be like a weekly prostate exam. No thank you!

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/26/18 07:32 PM
What witness would Ford have? As I recall, it was just her and K and his friend.

Of course her polygraph is in question, but it was done by an ex FBI agent, so if any polygraph is gonna be legit, as far as ANY of them can be, I would pretty much trust it ESPECIALLY if there are notes from a confidential psych doctor visit YEARS earlier stating the same accusation.


I dont know about Swetnick. I know the statute for sexual assault is up so the term of 'guilty' is not in question. BUT the question of CHARACTER is always in question with a SCOTUS Candidate, and this could open the door to do another review of the candidate's attitudes towards women and women's rights.

msharmony's photo
Wed 09/26/18 07:32 PM
What witness would Ford have? As I recall, it was just her and K and his friend.

Of course her polygraph is in question, but it was done by an ex FBI agent, so if any polygraph is gonna be legit, as far as ANY of them can be, I would pretty much trust it ESPECIALLY if there are notes from a confidential psych doctor visit YEARS earlier stating the same accusation.


I dont know about Swetnick. I know the statute for sexual assault is up so the term of 'guilty' is not in question. BUT the question of CHARACTER is always in question with a SCOTUS Candidate, and this could open the door to do another review of the candidate's attitudes towards women and women's rights.

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Wed 09/26/18 07:35 PM
There is no evidence Blakey has 'sold' anything. In fact, she told a psychiatrist whom SHE had to pay and she wrote a personal and direct letter(for no payment) to someone. No story sold to anyone, which kind of makes it even more credible.

I also hope people vote, I dont care about the parties, just that those in office care about Americans from all walks of life and not just towing the line for the privileged elite.


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Wed 09/26/18 07:53 PM
I just went to look up Blazey's letter. She claimed it happened in the early 80's.

The drinking age in Maryland in 1982 was age 18. They changed it to age 21, but with a stipulation. If you turned 18 before June 1, 1982 you could drink. After that date it was 21. In 1982 Kavanaugh was 17. Since Kavanaugh's mother was a judge, I'd expect her to be semi-sorta strict. Ether way, he had to be 21 to drink. So, I'd bet his mother would have lowered the boom on him had he come home with alcohol on his breath.

This is getting more and more hokey as time passes.

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Wed 09/26/18 07:59 PM
Oops, July 1. He was still illegal to drink. He was born 2/12/65, and still 17 when the law in Maryland changed.

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Wed 09/26/18 09:31 PM
Brett Kavanaugh Questioned By Senate About Fourth Sexual Misconduct Allegation

"Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh answered questions about another potential accuser during a call with Senate staff on Tuesday".

http://www.yahoo.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-questioned-senate-fourth-011858145.html




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Thu 09/27/18 01:22 AM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Thu 09/27/18 01:23 AM
Two men say they, not Brett Kavanaugh, had alleged sexual encounter with Christine Ford

"The Senate Judiciary Committee has interviewed two men who have reportedly taken responsibility for the alleged sexual assault against Christine Blasey Ford in 1982 that she has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of. According to a statement released by the committee’s chairman, Sen. Chuck Grassley, on Wednesday night, investigators received a written statement on Wednesday from the first man, who was “interviewed twice previously” and “believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter in question with Dr. Ford.” Also on Wednesday, a day before both Ford and Kavanaugh are due to testify on the matter, committee investigators “spoke via phone with another man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in 1982 that is the basis of her allegation.” The committee reportedly had its second interview with the first unidentified man on Tuesday. ..."

http://www.yahoo.com/news/m/9e2c835c-cb1c-3024-ac97-2cbe33cde617/judiciary-committee.html

Here's the polygraph test Christine Blasey Ford took on her allegations against Kavanaugh

"WASHINGTON - An examination taken by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford was released Wednesday, showing she passed a polygraph test over the sexual assault allegations she's lodged against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/26/christine-blasey-fords-polygraph-test-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-allegations/1434270002/


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Thu 09/27/18 07:19 AM
It is interesting the term 'believe', as opposed to know. It would be interesting as well if either had ever said anything about it to anyone else, before this hit the news, as Miss Blakey had.


interesting.

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