Proof of something requires tested evidence. There is no evidence of any kind to suggest that there might be such a being, as we call 'God'. There are many people who believe in these myths and fairytales, but they all have a different answer when you ask them, "What is this 'God' that you speak of?". After all these years, there is no simple clear definition. The various Christian denominations disagree on on the details, others like the JWs and Mormons claim to believe in God but disagree fundamentally on what She is and who we are supposed to 'worship' her. Others like Hindus and Muslims even have a different name for this amazing deity.

Belief in these fictions is an example of how easy it is for the human mind to be confused and to reach the wrong conclusion. Fortune tellers will tell you your future in such an ambiguous way that whatever happens will seem to have been 'proved'. Such nonsense does not stand up to any attempt at rigorous scientific study.

Some people have said here that we are all God. In that case, as God, I treat everyone as I would like them to treat me with no expectation of reward or punishment after my death. The very last thing I would want is for anyone to 'worship' me. The very different forms of such worship suggest that there cannot be a God in reality. If there were, she would laugh at the detail of these types of worship and how each group claims that they are 'doing it right' and all the others are wrong.

My viewpoint is 'humanist' - be kind to others but when I die, that's it, same as for other animals. It is arrogant to think that we are any better than animals and that somehow the essence of us continues to live. That is the stuff or fairy tales and people should grow up and accept that what we have is all there is.

Memory is the biggest component to having a genius IQ. To achieve enough Memories to format certainties is solely based upon each individual. But his 160 IQ had enough storage that remained and could be easily located at will.



I am saying Einstein might had been a Biblical Character had he been born in that time period. Since he was not, we know him as we know him.



Scientology has nothing to do with either Faith or Science. It's a mental scam for suckers needing to be controlled.



There are always possibilities of something being more. Even the truest Atheist confirms as such.

For being so miserable towards those you disagree with, you stir up enough of your own waste to fuel fires. But to think you are going to convince someone there is no God, especially you, having a Grandfather who lived and preached about there is a God.

The more you post confirming your disbeliefs, the more how obvious it is you are trying to separate yourself from your Grandfather. Your own inner demons lead to posts ^ like the one of Yours I have quoted.

You misunderstand me. I am simply telling the truth. There is no God. Simples. It's all a controlling exercise, mainly by Catholics.

My family do not all share my beliefs. Discussion of what they believe is irrelevant and off topic. I am not 'trying' to do anything, just stating the only facts we know, which are that we are here, not as a result of some ridiculous notion of some 'divine father' but as the result of what my parents did to create me, which is the same for all of us. Having got here we became inquisitive and discovered things like the wheel and fire. This was exciting so we continued to be inquisitive. What we can do now would seem like magic (no doubt interpreted in a religious way!) by the people who lives a few hundred years ago. The things we currently regard as magical or mystical are simply those things we do not yet understand. As time goes by, we will learn more about our planet and ourselves. There is no room in this for any of the 'God' nonsense. I have no need for the 'comfort of religion' that is for people who are not yet fully adult.

You are talking 2,000 year old facts, that is how long science has been an idea an institution. That is the last 2,000 years of 4.6 Billion years, numerous stages the face of the Earth has changed and become polar opposites a million years later.

Scientists do not have the first clue as to what is going on. They have ideas, they have separated and categorized those ideas, they have defined some of those ideas, and they have so many unknown probabilities they cannot even categorize or create Genetic Names for it all. They are stabbing a fork into the light socket hoping to not make contact but get a lead that finally gives them some real definitives.

Not sure why all of what the Universe consists of, even Science claims we are all relative to it all, that throughout the harmonious flow of it all, you fail to see God that 51% of Science claims exists according to Pew Research, the Poll solely conducted by Scientists themselves..

actually it requires a super processor to process the memory and according to you Einstein had none....as long as you have Einstein hook to an "External Cause" feeding him all the right ideas...he can not be labelled a genius...it's the "External Cause" that's the genius and Einstein becomes but a robot Drone ...so are you ready to finally cut the "External Cause apron strings" from Einstein so he can get Genius status


perhaps he would have been Judas


can you name any Faith based belief that wouldn't fit that criteria?

You have a very box like view and there is no practical sense taking place at all. The fact is, whether Einstein thought about his teachings growing up or by denouncing literally just put those thoughts away and choose to ignore them until they fade from your memory...Einstein was a Genius!!



or Paul who had the best Jewish education of that time from Rome, Greece, Turkey, and his own Yiddish Law!!



Yes, Faith is the key word to it all. Most beliefs are not about Faith, but about belonging. Belonging is good in the right structure. Faith on the other hand, places you in a position to witness the impossible from a front row view with the complete understanding that what just took place, was literally the impossible.

so far you're the only one claiming that Einstein ideas didn't come from him but from God ...if God is giving him all the answers to all the tests then Einstein is not a genius but a cheater or a ringer ...and you offer zero evidence beyond fantasy that God has done this...


Paul was persecuting followers so he clearly wasn't a Genius and a biblical education doesn't anyone a genius ..but anyway since in the biblical days Einstein would have been incapable of offering up any of his "scientific (blowing up the world) notations" he wouldn't been consider a genius but just a normal average joe


Faith is the ability to turn one's delusions into one's reality ... funches 3;16

and you have yet to name a Faith based belief that is not (in your words) "a mental scam for suckers needing to be controlled."

This is a formulative question... does God exist does that make him powerfuler than you that he's on a higher elemental cloud? One empties their mind and is left thoughtless just peace tranquility no more pain the more you dwell on something you begin to know why God cries... If God was to exist would any of any kind of life happen to live with just the basic ingredients... The very organs that give us the will to live also give us the will to die... and if we just existed flopping around like fish with no water what gave us that water... but what gave God the right to exist in our world when he's so many miles away... Hope? No, destiny... walking with God is to know the way of power each evolution keeps us pushing forward that we forget and forgive those who made mistakes in their existence and simply keep evolving walking with God as equals not slaves Jesus promised us this resolution to pain and in healing our tears he is taking away his own pain...

I never made any such claim. You from the beginning of this discussion made your assumptions. So, you believe most of what I have been saying is related to your initial thought. No wonder you don't get me and what I am saying, you have no idea what I've said and for which reasons. Who cares how he ended up being a Genius, the fact of the matter with most Genius' they tend to exceed in their Gifted Areas and the rest of them is as if no one even exists. Psychological Disorder like forms of Autism, Skitzo, Aspergers, multiple disorders, etc, etc. Those are forms of mental illness. Every genius has something about them that is not how it should be.



No but, he might had been in the Book of Isaiah which details the same stars we look at every night we look into our little area of Space. Even Galaxies are mentioned and there are many areas where it takes a special kind of knowledge to see how their Mathematics, Engineering, work order progress. Einstein would have excelled here.



If it touches you in the physical realm you live in, but cannot be found in the physical realm you live in, it allows you to be more objective that should not happen like that. And if it happens on several occasions because you have learned to understand it, the extreme impossible becoming a reality right in the moment of true need. It means you have seen a glimpse of the unnatural, but in a way that wants to benefit you as a person.

Miracles that happen once leave a reminder always, miracles that happen more than logic would claim if it believed in such, become expected and you even claim a miracle when you know you are facing a crisis bigger than you are able to solve. I have no reason to mislead you at all, but you would be amazed at the miracles I have been a sole part of, a group part of, and a reality awareness moments that actually peek your logic and make you choose.

That kind of living experience is part of why the Pew Research Poll, conducted by Scientists, claimed people who have a Faith and they trust in God were "Mentally Sound" VS non-believers who can never find peace which leads to more suicides and other forms of physical death.

Even Richard Dawkins said more Atheist kill themselves because they are not a part of belief Faith system.

Some people can't see a joke!

"Richard Dawkins himself has joked about atheists possibly being 'despairing neurotics driven to suicide by relentless cosmic angst' because they lack the emotional and psychological consolations of religion. However, emerging evidence suggests that convinced atheists may derive consolation from a certainty of belief in their own solidly-held worldview, leading to similar mental health to the highly-religious."

It's so easy to find a quote to support your particular viewpoint. The Pew Research Center supports my viewpoint here:

"Interestingly, Pew Research Center surveys indicate a growth in the 'nones' as a proportion of the population. A 2014 survey indicated that 23 percent of Americans identified as a 'none,' significantly higher than the 16 percent observed in 2007. Within these 'nones' are a growing number of atheists.

Indeed, the Pew Research Centre reports that 'the share of Americans who identify as atheists has roughly doubled in the past several years', now making up 3.1 percent of the population, compared to 1.6 percent in 2007. Interestingly, young white educated men make up a disproportionate number of atheists."

Which could> of course suggest that less susceptible people are more likely to be aetheists, while in contrast the more gulllible are more likely to follow one of the many religious alternatives available. As far as I can see, most religious people (but certainly not all of them) follow the religion of their parents. A simple explanation: Parents teach their children right from wrong and religious parents include religious ideas in the mix. Didn't happen too much in my situation because my Mother was a Catholic and Father was Anglican (Church of England). There was no strict teachings of right and wrong because they belonged to two different versions of Christianity.

When I left school I started to think about these things and gradually realised that I was more of an aetheist (convinced there is no deity of any kind) than agnostic (don't know if there is or there isn't). Only a few years ago I came across the humanist movement, people who believe in ethics, kindness and treating others as they would like to be treated - but with no expectation of reward or punishment after death. I think that's the important point: treat others kindly but understand that at the moment of your death you totally cease to exist. As human beings there will be memories and possibly sound recordings, video clips and stuff like e-mails left behind but certainly nothing 'spiritual' that's just part of the God Delusion

yes, just as ingrained in your thoughts, from the point it takes someone to literally believe, is to the same degree opposite it is to disbelieve. But to reach either point, there is a peace of mind and comfort. This is where "Sound Mental Health" gives us the assurredy within our thoughts and making our thoughts be what we are.


Just as peaceful that you are in your state of Denial, I am that peaceful in my state of Belief.

sorry but you did, you stated that Spinoza stated that man's ideas do not come from himself but from an "external cause" ...and I asked you flat out what was the "external cause" feeding Einstein his ideas and who was this deepthroat?" ...and you said think in terms of God


why do you insist on linking mental disorders to genius ...how many people have you met throughout your life that didn't have any mental disorders ..of course other than myself


yep..back in those unscientific biblical days Einstein would probably be leading the charge that the Earth is Flat resting upon pillars


a Miracle would be a happenstance that cancels out the laws of physics ...do you know of any?


when the faithful goes to a doctor they become an Atheist ... funches 3;16

And I also meant that I believed einstein followed spinoza's Theory of God as being connected to everything, not what spinoza was thinking philosophically. I am sure einstein had his own questions as to some of the things spinoza was thinking, but on terms of everything being connected in a harmonious flow, I believe einstein accepted that portion of spinoza's view.



people who understand some of the issues they deal with, they tend to think in terms of learning a new trait. they learn a trait that hides something obvious. that ability to correct and adapt is also part of the learning ew trait by removing old habit.



nowhere is that view found within scripture.

first you claim you didn't say it now you claim you did say it but meant the spinoza God when at first you claim that Einstein would revert back to the Jewish God, your posts appears to be a host of contradictions drench in encrypted parables that had to be decipher and points to a concept known as "The Borg Collective"

{NERD ALERT}
the Borg a race of assimilated species including humans manufactured into cyborgs on the sci-fi series "Star trek the next Generation" in which all the minds of its members are linked together as a "Collective" and all lacking individuality but supplied with thoughts and ideas from an External Cause or Consciousness (that you refer to as being God) but in this case is known as "The Borg Queen' [NERD ALERT OVER}

if you disagree with my assessment ...then explain your concept and I will point out how it relates to The Borg Collective ....

but if you don't... then you will be assimilated, resistance is futile, WE ARE BORG


learning a new trade or trait is not genius...it's adaptation


what can't be found in scripture are biblical einstein like people working on nuclear fusion notations... but what can be found in scripture is that the earth has four corners and when shaken so does it's pillars shake ...suggesting that God was feeding people the wrong information that the earth was Flat resting upon pillars


factor in the wind or the lack of it into the equation and all you've done was described the laws of physics.... not a miracle ...there are no miracles

i meant how you perceived my meaning, i was trying to present the opposite. somehow, we got off an tangent that doesn't mean squat.



nah, i just see how you are taking my words, that only requires a different approach, nothing more.



i never claimed it was genius. i deal with a couple of people who clinically are Narcissist/Psychopath. both believe i am fooled by their abilities to hide their flaws. but it's when they try to break you down, even just by peeling the smallest area in order to get into your thought process, they give themselves away. both of them have very robotic reactions in their body language. it's not a fluid motion like you can see in someone running, swimming, or gymnastics. here are 2 people, legally insane, trying to hide the one flaw that keeps them from society, living in the middle of society, controlling their own lives from family to final say on what can be bought on purchases, destroying the life of the person they are with because they are emotionally void, breeding their fouled genetics into their offspring, and polluting society with their continuous vile of personal insanity.

both are Engineers and responsible for much of what can be done in some pc types, both brilliant in Mathematics, both pretending to be like the other natural flowing humans, and their poison can come without warning. these people are literal walking time bombs in the process of destroying lives who had a chance at normalcy.

there is absolutely nothing genius about that or especially them!!



the 4 corners are directions and flow of the wind patterns. if you watch the direction of the wind, it will tell you how the Laws are working in that scene.

in Job God describes engineering, using a tape to measure, Mathematics. but none of what you are suggesting. and i see i need to inform you again, the English translated Bibles have many incorrections. It's why I go to the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek versions. Those misinterpreted English explanations are not found in the versions 3,500 and 1,700 years older than the English Translation.



the wind is a constant, so I am not taking the wind into consideration of my claim. miracles are real and happen more often than none. only the close minded will not be able to detect differences and one from another because they don't believe they can see.

actually you were contradicting yourself again and quantum leaping from Jehovah to Spinoza, which doesn't matter since according to you and Spinoza all men including Einstein are part of "The Borg Collective"


is that the same magical tape measure God use to measure Noah's Ark because how else would it be mathematical possible for two of all the animals in the world to be able to fit on such a small thing... i think someone caught a glimpse of bigfoot on the ark


imagine if the term God was also mistranslated and was actually meant to mean Satan ...this is why to even suggest that one word in the bible was mistranslated would mean the entire Bible is incorrect


the wind must be taken into consideration since it is part of the laws of physics..the laws of physics is not like the passages in the bible that people get to pick and choose which ones to follow or not follow

An interesting concept. If (in your opinion) someone's mind is 'closed' does that mean they cannot see what you can see? Sounds like the circular flat earth arguments to me! I could as easily say that if you can't see that religion is a mixture of myths and scams for parting fools from their money, then it is YOUR mind that is closed! After all I was brought up to believe in the Christian religion but only when I started to think for myself and question the teachings rather than just accept what I was told, did I come to the conclusions I now accept as truth.

I do actually believe in miracles - defined as things that happen that we can't explain. Many, many years ago, thunder and lightning were thought to be miracles but like so many other effects they are no longer considered to be miracles, but part of well understood science. Even now, parts of thunderstorms are not fully understood, those parts relating to aircraft and what is happening in the storm above the storm clouds. No longer called miracles, these effects are currently being studied because they affect the design of aircraft keeping them safe in storms.

A miracle is therefore something we can't currently explain. It isn't something that breaks the laws of science, it is something that those laws can't properly explain - yet. Newtonian Physics is fine for apples falling from trees, but when you are studying Galaxies and atoms, things behave rather differently from Newtonian predictions. These 'miracles' have now been explained by Einstein who said that Newton was right only up to a point. In the world of Quantum physics, new laws are needed to explain things that were previously impossible to understand.

Thus it is, today we know some things and as time goes by we will learn more. I have no problem with that, just wish I could live for several hundred years more and marvel at the new science yet to be understood in the future.

"GOD" exists whether all you non believers disagree with me


just like the "Devil" exists as well.....


I know the entire world is going to wake up soon..but right now most of you are like Sheeples all following each other believing their is no GOD


Some people will say Proof to me GOD exists... well I can say to that Proof to me that he doesn't exist?

BTW you cannot proof me this cause you would know where to find him. No one has see Jesus no one knows what he looks like... But the Bible says some of the people have seen him... But we are talking about 2019 No one here has met Jesus No one here has met GOD But he does Exist whether you sheeple dont believe this ...

Soon you will see a judgement day coming and then your eyes will be opened... when that day comes no one knows ... but it will come and all you sinners that havent repented will die ... If I were you I'd seek out the truth before its too late...

I dont mean by going to church... church cannot save you only GOD can! The Church today is watered down gospels they have fallen and they dont see this.. cause their all sleeping giants.... If you want to have a true relationship with GOD ... get out of Church.. and ask him into you lives.. that is the best advice I can give you.

Thank you for your interesting advice. It is actually impossible to prove that something does not exist, although Richard Dawkins has written a book in which he claims to prove that god doesn't exist.

Equally, it is impossible to prove that she does exist. What is her phone number? Her e-mail address? Nope, no such thing. Excuses like she doesn't have those things are all we get if we ask. I believe you exist, I can see your picture. I expect you probably have a phone number, as do I. And an e-mail address. As do I.

God is just a belief system and I have no problem with gullible people accepting God into their lives, but that concept has no actual meaning. As far as I can see if I chose to accept God into my life I would be expected to be a 'good' person, treat others as I would like them to treat me. This I do already, without the ridiculous notion of 'worship'.

You say don't go to church. That is contrary to all the Christian religions which all build churches for their faithful to fall on their knees once a week. You say that is not necessary, the religions say it is a requirement. It is a 'mortal sin' (the most serious kind) for a Catholic not to go to church every Sunday.

You'd think if there was a god, she would make it clear what we have to do about her existence! But she doesn't, we're left to figure it out for ourselves. My take on it is that the whole god thing is just myth, superstition, fairy stories and in some cases financial rip-off my good salesmen who drive around in big expensive cars while they preach that you need to give more money. And the weird thing is that people donate willingly, confident that their next life will be in some way 'better' than this one. Since there is no 'next life' these people would be far better donating their money to cancer research and other medical activities to help those alive now, and yet to be born.

If I'm wrong and if the threat of a judegement day actually happens, I will be guilty of not falling on my knees every week, but not guilty of murder, rape or any other such nasty activities. As far as I can tell, that would be good enough and she will allow me through the 'pearly gates'