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I'm easy.
Friends are nice and good ones are few and far between be they men or women. But I believe you can have good friends online as well as in the twilight zone of real life |
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This question is for the men mainly. But ofcourse the "womens " are welcome to weigh in as well. Guys.... If a woman online is attracted to your spirit and energy in your profile , and she is interested in you as a friend BUT NOT in a romantic or sexual way, ... Would you prefer it if she shoves her friendship intentions where the sun don't shine and leave you the hell alone? OR... Would you want her to still email you? [/quote I think you are talking about if a a person with a mate is making friendships with people this one of the area's women do not understand, a man can not have girl friends and have a romantic relationship with another its a problem for his romantic interest and for himself..sometimes a guy will settle for friendship while hoping to get lucky later.......one at a time while dating has a lot less complications for both.....a lot of people seem to have the illusion that they can have more then one love interest at a time, well over my long life i have witnessed a lot people get bit in the ace over this....if she or he is ''the one'' its best to give all your romantic love to them....and if you are having problems do you best to see you part.... Hi Sparkaey. I think we might be talking about two separate issues. You are taking about people making friends of the opposite sex when they are in a relationship. I am talking about if both a man and a woman are single and if the guys would prefer her to NOT send them an email if she is only interested in friendship. The issue you raised is a separate and more complicated thread , but I understand your concerns about the issue you raised |
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Edited by
peggy122
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Thu 04/21/16 11:06 AM
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I don't assume anything when I'm messaged, I treat them as friendships. unless the messenger doesn't interact on the forums, then I've been known to ignore the messages altogether! sometimes I message people just to let them know they're appreciated on here. So I'm in the THANKS camp! Peggy! Not assuming is a very good approach when it comes to online interactions . Too much can be misinterpreted. It's nice that you appreciate friendships Johnn:) |
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I think friendship is something that is built over time , a lady wanting to be friends is more saying to be acquaintances for convenience Friendship not a defined role it is a blessing Not sure if I quite understood you mill bank. Are you saying that online friendships are more acquaintances than friendships and that real friendships take more time to develop? |
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Edited by
peggy122
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Thu 04/21/16 01:22 PM
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Sometimes people move for the people they love David. It is not always the case of the "impossible dream" .... So you're saying men SHOULD ignore when a woman says "just friends" and keep trying harder and harder to make it more, as long as the guy feels they "love" the girl. Maybe move across country as a grand gesture, making sure she knows it's purely for her, and keep trying, keep pushing that "impossible dream." So you're saying you want guys like "David" to do that to you. Cool. I never thought online could really work! I'm so excited for you! Woohooooo!!! Thank you for celebrating with me Tom!!!! But as it turns out , your discourse here is a colossal misinterpretation of what I said My statement about people migrating for the person they love was referring to the idea raised by David ,regarding "people living too far for him to date" David wasn't addressing the thread topic of friendship . He was making a general statement about online and long distance dating, which is what I responded to. I also didn't say that David or anybody else SHOULD move for love. I said that some people have done it, and implicit in that statement, is the idea that a woman could also choose to migrate to be with him as well. If a woman online is attracted to your spirit and energy in (a) profile ...
Then she's either not that smart, or she's addicted to romance novels possibly due to abject loneliness, desperation, and/or a lot of emotional problems stemming from fear. There are many men and women here Tom who have said that their decision to respond to an emailer, is based upon some feeling of connection or relatability to whatever is projected in the profile. Prior to meeting a person online, the energy or personality projected in their profile is all that we are given to make a judgement upon apart from their photo. Ofcourse this organic social process mainly applies to humans with emotions and instincts . Please feel free to exempt from this group if the label doesn't fit. (If) she is interested in you as a friend BUT NOT in a romantic or sexual way , then she believes she is entitled to the relationships she wants for her convenience and for her own selfish emotional reasons believing she has control over relationships, which means she's either not that smart, addicted to romance novels, and/or spoiled and princess like.
Do I have to have sexual or romantic feelings toward a man to offer genuine care and moral support to him? I have had decades of friendships with men offline, who I feel no attraction to whatsoever , but whom I have given of my care without asking a thing in return. Maybe the men who choose women friends with the ruthless qualities you described are the "less than smart" ones? |
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This question is for the men mainly. But ofcourse the "womens " are welcome to weigh in as well. Guys.... If a woman online is attracted to your spirit and energy in your profile , and she is interested in you as a friend BUT NOT in a romantic or sexual way, ... Would you prefer it if she shoves her friendship intentions where the sun don't shine and leave you the hell alone? OR... Would you want her to still email you? I would play the odds...and try to seduce her over time. Somehow I suspect a lot of guys would do that . Men love a challenge. But I wonder how the other women feel about their boundaries being challenged . Hmmmmmmm.... I think sometimes we kid ourselves into knowing what type of person we can fall in love with... It may be more random than that. Unexpected romance is delightful when it happens. This is true But it is also true that we also kid ourselves into feeling somethimes that the people we fall in love with , are the people that are suitable enough to build a life with. Just because you fall in love with someone , it doesn't mean that you are compatible enough in goals, values or lifestyle to make a longterm relationship work , if that is what the person is in search of. |
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I guess no thanks
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This question is for the men mainly. But ofcourse the "womens " are welcome to weigh in as well. Guys.... If a woman online is attracted to your spirit and energy in your profile , and she is interested in you as a friend BUT NOT in a romantic or sexual way, ... Would you prefer it if she shoves her friendship intentions where the sun don't shine and leave you the hell alone? OR... Would you want her to still email you? I would play the odds...and try to seduce her over time. Somehow I suspect a lot of guys would do that . Men love a challenge. But I wonder how the other women feel about their boundaries being challenged . Hmmmmmmm.... From what I've witnessed & heard , most choose convenience over a challenge. Sadly its the reason an average girl with half naked pics & a trashy personality will always feel popular over the beautiful, classy girl with self respect. I think it's messed up but it's an obvious truth well it all depends on a person's reasons for being here BHawkins. Some people did not join the site for a relationship. Some came here for flings , even when they try to hide it under the disguise of wanting a relationship or a friend. I would like to think that the ones who genuinely came here for a relationship seek out the type of woman you described. |
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Edited. This is a reminder to never discuss other members in a negative way. soufie Site Moderator Awww man!!! I can't believe that some juicy stuff on my thread got edited out before I got to read it. No fair Soufie! |
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* Friends are great in this dynamic world called earth. * Sharing thoughts and life styes is interesting fun. * Friends are important "To the world you may be just one person, but to one person you may be the world". * A friendship could become a physical relationship or grow into a great close friend. *Both are enriching* ** Sometimes being "nice" is a life well lived. So you are just open to whatever life brings Doug. I am recording your response as a "thanks" |
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I'm easy. Friends are nice and good ones are few and far between be they men or women. But I believe you can have good friends online as well as in the twilight zone of real life Agreed Joe .. Please pass this startling revelation on to ciretom |
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I guess no thanks thank you Arpitmeshram . Your vote will be counted |
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I'm pretty sure you already know how I'm going to answer Peggy, and the sad thing is that this scenario has played out many times in my life. When I was younger I would have equated the feeling I got when a girl told me she had no interest in being more then friends to getting kicked in the teeth, literally. Currently I have almost three times more female friends then male and I no longer expect any women I meet to want to be more then friends, if that.
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Awww man!!! I can't believe that some juicy stuff on my thread got edited out before I got to read it. No fair Soufie! Hey sometimes they edit it out before we get to read it :-( |
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A bit of a vague question, Peggy...
You say "Online". What do you mean with "Online"? Do you mean in general, like social media, fora etc. Or do you mean Mingle? Or a dating site (not Mingle, a dating site without a forum)? If it's in general, there's nothing odd about a woman wanting friendship only. On Mingle also not odd if both are active on the forums and like each other that way only. On a dating site, however... Why would a woman on a dating site contact a man for friendship only? One would assume she's there to find herself a partner, as are the male counterparts. |
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A real (even cyber) friendship happens naturally, so i have no problem with that. It's still a chemistry even if it's platonic. If the understanding and humour is there, why wouldn't we want to stay in touch ? As Joe said, good friends are few and far between. I'm lucky enough to have made a few friends from here and other sites, so i consider myself lucky even though i came here looking for a relationship...
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I'm pretty sure you already know how I'm going to answer Peggy, and the sad thing is that this scenario has played out many times in my life. When I was younger I would have equated the feeling I got when a girl told me she had no interest in being more then friends to getting kicked in the teeth, literally. Currently I have almost three times more female friends then male and I no longer expect any women I meet to want to be more then friends, if that. To be honest Dnhblue, I think you handle the friend zone status with a degree if grace even if it is out of resignation. I dont think many men handle the friend zone very well . Many are as resentful as one of the respondents in this thread possibly because they have been used by such women or possibly a case of the proverbisl sour grapes . |
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Awww man!!! I can't believe that some juicy stuff on my thread got edited out before I got to read it. No fair Soufie! Hey sometimes they edit it out before we get to read it :-( Aaaawwww... That sucks for all of us then. |
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Edited by
peggy122
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Fri 04/22/16 06:02 AM
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A bit of a vague question, Peggy... You say "Online". What do you mean with "Online"? Do you mean in general, like social media, fora etc. Or do you mean Mingle? Or a dating site (not Mingle, a dating site without a forum)? If it's in general, there's nothing odd about a woman wanting friendship only. On Mingle also not odd if both are active on the forums and like each other that way only. On a dating site, however... Why would a woman on a dating site contact a man for friendship only? One would assume she's there to find herself a partner, as are the male counterparts. I am referring to mingle crystal , where the majority of people sign up for dating but a few do come for friendship as well. And I am mostly referring to people outside of the forum but it can apply to people inside the forum as well who.have not had any interaction with each other in the forum. Also crystal... How do you feel about a man who accepts your invitation for a clearly defined platonic friendship , but who accepts your friendship with the intent of luring you into a relationship ? Interestingly enough, I suspect that many men who say yes to being in the friend zone often do have intentions of challenging those boundaries. To be fair to those men, i do think a few women are flattered by such advances while others find it downright disrespectful. |
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Edited by
SparklingCrystal 💖💎
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Fri 04/22/16 07:07 AM
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A bit of a vague question, Peggy... You say "Online". What do you mean with "Online"? Do you mean in general, like social media, fora etc. Or do you mean Mingle? Or a dating site (not Mingle, a dating site without a forum)? If it's in general, there's nothing odd about a woman wanting friendship only. On Mingle also not odd if both are active on the forums and like each other that way only. On a dating site, however... Why would a woman on a dating site contact a man for friendship only? One would assume she's there to find herself a partner, as are the male counterparts. I am referring to mingle crystal , where the majority of people sign up for dating but a few do come for friendship as well. And I am mostly referring to people outside of the forum but it can apply to people inside the forum as well who.have not had any interaction with each other in the forum. Also crystal... How do you feel about a man who accepts your invitation for a clearly defined platonic friendship , but who accepts your friendship with the intent of luring you into a relationship ? Interestingly enough, I suspect that many men who say yes to being in the friend zone often do have intentions of challenging those boundaries. To be fair to those men, i do think a few women are flattered by such advances while others find it downright disrespectful. Hmmm ... depends. Thing is, I don't really believe in friendship between man & woman without any sexual tension whatsoever. Ppl say it happens, but I am not convinced. I think it is a rare thing to not have any sexual tension. But that's me, maybe I'm too old-fashioned myself, or too sexually oriented. If there's no sexual vibe between me and a man, I'm usually not interested in him either. Not even for friendship. Anyway, if my intentions were purely friendship, friendly, and a man kept trying to get more out of me, I would get seriously irritated. And yes, it would be disrespectful if I'd made myself clear several times, and he'd just ignore that. I'd probably end the friendship, cos it would be awkward for both, and hurtful for him. How can he ever get a partner if he's smitten with me? Then he best is 'cut loose' so he can get over it. I do think many men find those boundaries challenging, that's a typical male thing, part of the "hunt and conquer" thing so to speak. Boundaries will trigger that. But I don't think they are after a relationship, they just want to claim their "prize", proof of their masculine prowess. To add to that: I don't think a mentally/emotionally healthy man would chase after a woman who wouldn't want him. But the friendship-zone may turn those old-fashioned black & white areas into 50 Shades of Grey... Which leads us back to your original question ... |
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