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Topic: Prostitution
Estelle79 Joined Thu 09/11/14 Posts: 1452	Thu 04/23/15 04:19 AM
I don't think illegal is the word, I would say confined since it is legal in some parts of the US. I may not always be right, this is debatable, but I'm not insulting anyone or any institution. And I was not comparing, I was correlating, right or wrong, it's not insulting.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Thu 04/23/15 04:21 AM
I don't think illegal is the word, I would say confined since it is legal in some parts of the US. I may not always be right, this is debatable, but I'm not insulting anyone or any institution. And I was not comparing, I was correlating, right or wrong, it's not insulting. If you hadn't made such a false correlation, then this thread would be as long as it is.

isaac_dede Joined Sat 11/24/07 Posts: 10632	Thu 04/23/15 06:55 AM
How is there so much military conversation? It is not a secret that the government/ tax payers pay for them to have a college education anyway.. * going back to Debbie's birthday thread... stumbles out * You clearly have no idea how many have degrees BEFORE they enlist. I had an A.A degree before enlisting, now that im out I have 2 B.S degrees, many in my company also had degrees, at least A.A degrees so you're right, anyone who thjnks otherwise should probably focus on educating themselves

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 04/23/15 09:06 AM
where does one educate themselves, as the information that is out there only specifies how many have high school degrees when being RECRUITED,,, and then there is the broader picture that of course those with degrees can and do enlist, but not at the grunt level, they are automatically hired in leadership roles the 'grunts' are inevitably those with less educational experience,,,

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 04/23/15 09:26 AM
where does one educate themselves, as the information that is out there only specifies how many have high school degrees when being RECRUITED,,, and then there is the broader picture that of course those with degrees can and do enlist, but not at the grunt level, they are automatically hired in leadership roles the 'grunts' are inevitably those with less educational experience,,, i'm sure all of the officers went to some sort of college, but enlisted? most are 18, 19 high school kids

luv2roknroll Joined Sun 07/06/08 Posts: 30367	Thu 04/23/15 09:33 AM
If I could, I would be a prostitute in a hot NY second, but my mind is just not built that way. But seriously..have sex, and get paid. Sounds damn good to me!

Argo Joined Mon 11/11/13 Posts: 12416	Thu 04/23/15 10:02 AM
is the DEA, like considered military...since like ya know, they have guns and stuff ? they are under the commander-in-chief, aren't they ? i dunno Seriously? what i'm saying is......not all soldiers in the military are honorable hero's just because they're on your side in the battle.....war, and those who promote war, is the catalyst which will force men to do inhumane acts to their fellowman on both sides of their armies...ask Lt. Calley how those women and children from myLai are coming along.... i just shortened it up a little... So because you can find a few examples of those who aren't, it's ok to disparage the entire military? Sure seems like it to me. He brings up an isolated incident that happened 50 years ago and compares it to todays all volunteer, professional U.S. military. Sounds like he has a narative, besides prostitution, he wants to push. you two need to get together and decide which way to spin my comment....was it the ENTIRE military or an ISOLATED incident that i disparaged ???? if you actually read the words that i wrote..the only thing being disparaged is WAR and those who promote war (financiers of war)....the DEA comment is my way of pointing out the HYPOCRISY of our soldiers, duty bound to fight, in the so-called "WAR on DRUGS" setting up their own private Colombian whorehouse with drug money (which was either, taxpayer *buy money or confiscated money which should have been turned in) and getting caught with their pants down...in either case, clearly a derilection of duty. ALL armies have their share of heros, and their share of rats also... sidenote....i would make an educated guess that .... military personnel (not just the US military, but all of them) are the largest group (by number) to avail themselves of the services offered by prostitutes.............have a good day...buh-bye

JustScribbles Joined Thu 04/02/15 Posts: 1091	Thu 04/23/15 10:52 AM Edited by JustScribbles on Thu 04/23/15 10:53 AM
where does one educate themselves, as the information that is out there only specifies how many have high school degrees when being RECRUITED,,, and then there is the broader picture that of course those with degrees can and do enlist, but not at the grunt level, they are automatically hired in leadership roles the 'grunts' are inevitably those with less educational experience,,, Don't assume that everyone in the service who enters with a degree is interested in the officer route. Recruiters definitely press that way, but it's not a 'given.' In my Recruit Training Platoon, there were a number of degreed members, only 3 went to OCS. I served in Combat/Combat Arms fields and knew many grunts with degrees, some of those advanced. 'Grunt' does not equate to disadvantaged, 'cannon-fodder', or any of the other misconstrued terms non-military folks hang on them. Intellect, ability, confidence, a gung-ho attitude and an indomitable spirit are not qualities that are mutually exclusive to those in the profession of arms. I served proudly with many professionals, officer and enlisted, alike. Sorry, no hijack intended. Semper Fidelis.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Thu 04/23/15 11:45 AM
Getting back to the original topic ... The legalization of prostitution would not result in fewer people joining the military.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 04/23/15 11:45 AM
I have loved ones who served, there was no absolute in my posts,, there was just the observation that 'grunts' (entry level military, for those unaware) are more often recruited from those who have the least self identity and are therefore the easiest to mold in no way does that mean there arent exceptions who have invested time and money into a degree but choose to start at the bottom of the military anyway,,, its just not the type recruiters look for(for grunts) as much as the type that seek out recruiters,,

JustScribbles Joined Thu 04/02/15 Posts: 1091	Thu 04/23/15 11:58 AM
I have loved ones who served, there was no absolute in my posts,, there was just the observation that 'grunts' (entry level military, for those unaware) are more often recruited from those who have the least self identity and are therefore the easiest to mold in no way does that mean there arent exceptions who have invested time and money into a degree but choose to start at the bottom of the military anyway,,, its just not the type recruiters look for(for grunts) as much as the type that seek out recruiters,, Some of the confusion can be laid at the feet of differing definitions. The term 'grunts' is more closely associated (in the eyes of military folks, perhaps exclusively) with those whose Military Occupational Specialty is Infantry. Entry level military folks are more often referred to as 'boots.' (which is a derivation arising from 'boot camp' or initial military training.) Again, I have to quibble with the observation '...those who have the least self-identity...easiest to mold...' Ack! This stuff needs to be in a separate thread. Sorry, Estelle.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 04/23/15 12:05 PM
grunt: a low-ranking or unskilled soldier or other worker this is the way I have heard the term used, which is why I specified in parenthesis when I posted it its not meant to disparage anyone, not everyone can be educated or skilled, and we certainly expect those who are younger to be less so than those who are older and new recruits for the ENTRY LEVEL type service, are most likely going to be chosen from those who are amongst the young and inexperienced,,,

JustScribbles Joined Thu 04/02/15 Posts: 1091	Thu 04/23/15 12:32 PM
Last time, Estelle! I promise. I put up a Military thread in General Discussion. I'd like this discussion to continue, if at all possible. Thanks, y'all.

devildog123 Joined Mon 09/08/14 Posts: 3902	Thu 04/23/15 12:35 PM
I have loved ones who served, there was no absolute in my posts,, there was just the observation that 'grunts' (entry level military, for those unaware) are more often recruited from those who have the least self identity and are therefore the easiest to mold in no way does that mean there arent exceptions who have invested time and money into a degree but choose to start at the bottom of the military anyway,,, its just not the type recruiters look for(for grunts) as much as the type that seek out recruiters,, And then there are those who have much self identity, who are not recruited.. at all. such as the approx.300K young kids who joined the military directly after 9-11..including one of my kids. just like their forefathers before them.. when the need to fight was called for. Why.. well frankly because they can fight better then us older people... and there was a need to fight. Mine did 8 years in the Marines.. and thank God came home... and he is in College (Uncle Sam is paying for that) and he is also working. A few of his good friends were going to go to college as well... but they didn't make it home. In my opinion, these "kids" have more self identity then many grown ups

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 04/23/15 12:38 PM
I have loved ones who served, there was no absolute in my posts,, there was just the observation that 'grunts' (entry level military, for those unaware) are more often recruited from those who have the least self identity and are therefore the easiest to mold in no way does that mean there arent exceptions who have invested time and money into a degree but choose to start at the bottom of the military anyway,,, its just not the type recruiters look for(for grunts) as much as the type that seek out recruiters,, And then there are those who have much self identity, who are not recruited.. at all. such as the approx.300K young kids who joined the military directly after 9-11..including one of my kids. just like their forefathers before them.. when the need to fight was called for. Why.. well frankly because they can fight better then us older people... and there was a need to fight. Mine did 8 years in the Marines.. and thank God came home... and he is in College (Uncle Sam is paying for that) and he is also working. A few of his good friends were going to go to college as well... but they didn't make it home. In my opinion, these "kids" have more self identity then many grown ups in my opinion there are some kids with more identity than some grown ups,, but nature dictates they are exceptional and not the rule...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 04/23/15 12:40 PM
If I could, I would be a prostitute in a hot NY second, but my mind is just not built that way. But seriously..have sex, and get paid. Sounds damn good to me! during my less morally mature years, I considered the escort business myself,, never a prostitute though, the idea of total anonymity with the potential quacks and misogynists out there was a complete turn off to the idea...

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Thu 04/23/15 12:40 PM
So the topic of this thread is ...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 04/23/15 12:43 PM
prostitution,,,,did escort not qualify?..lol

devildog123 Joined Mon 09/08/14 Posts: 3902	Thu 04/23/15 02:41 PM
If I could, I would be a prostitute in a hot NY second, but my mind is just not built that way. But seriously..have sex, and get paid. Sounds damn good to me! during my less morally mature years, I considered the escort business myself,, never a prostitute though, the idea of total anonymity with the potential quacks and misogynists out there was a complete turn off to the idea... I never hired a escort.. but in my mind a escort is a prostitute. .who just happens to be good looking enough to be choosey. I may be wrong.. Am I?.. Doesn't that escort usually end up in the hotel room? BTW .. My take on prostitution is it is a service that has been around forever... as most ever other form of vice.. and everyone has a vice... no body is a saint... so be it.

Rock Joined Thu 10/09/08 Posts: 21258	Thu 04/23/15 02:56 PM
I don't think illegal is the word, I would say confined since it is legal in some parts of the US Prostitution in the u.s., is legal ONLY in the state of Nevada. And, only then, in certain counties. Prostitution, is not legal in Clark county, Washoe county...