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I didn't say should only happen, but that for me it works best that way.
Mainly because my giving the look to someone I don't know well may result in him not having a clue as to what's wrong with me or there's something in my eye. If I flash that I'm wearing something lacy underneath, he may just think I'm an old woman having a hot flash. Like what's already been said, when you're older, being overtly sexual takes a different finesse. |
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That's why I call it a dance. Both partners have to dance the steps, not just one leading and the other powerless to resist, being dragged along.
I don't think a person can honestly say "I didn't want to, you made me, you seduced me and robbed me of my senses." Because that's not seduction. But it's sure a good way to absolve yourself of any responsibility for your part in it. If both aren't totally aware of each other and taking cues from each other, it's not seduction. |
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So, I am dating this guy... Oh all right, I had one date. I guess that doesn't mean that I'm dating him. And it took a year for us to actually meet. He lives about an hour and a half away from me. He's a bit older than I am. Since I'm as old as dirt, that makes him older than dirt. The times have changed since we were young. There used to be more courting involved and not so much "wham, bam, thank you ma'am." Now Miley Cyrus might think that folks over forty aren't interested in sex but I can assure her that folks over seventy are still interested. Some of us over sixty folks do remember romance. I think this guy might need a course called Seduction 101. What topics would be included in a course like that? Leigh, you just said that you don't see how some people can see seduction as a bad thing and then wholeheartedly agreed with a post where it was stated that it should only happen within an already established relationship. So?..... Well, obviously that implies that there's something wrong about it otherwise. We've got SweetestGirl saying something about how women shouldn't try to seduce men and I assume that she's talking about before a relationship has been established. What about what I'm talking about where you've got someone telling you that it's just sex and not a relationship? When is the relationship established? People aren't going to agree about that on here but if I say that as far as I'm concerned it starts from when you become lovers and there's likely to be some seduction involved there, the relationship isn't even getting off the ground without it. A lot of people clearly think that there's something wrong with seduction because it's about getting your way with someone and it's not necessary if they're already consenting. That's what I think about when people talk about seduction. It can be fun but maybe I don't want some woman saying in the morning that I seduced her and complaining that I took advantage of her or trying to say that it wasn't really what she wanted to do and that it doesn't mean that she wants to get involved. I've got no personal problem with it myself but I take responsibility for my actions and I'm not the one saying that men will think less of a woman if she does it. Brought the OP along for reference...She is biotching about lack of romance, lumping it together with the art of seduction, and asking a question about how to improve (instill) that art in someone she feels is clueless....Some went lighthearted with their responses, some did not...When I talk about seduction (and romance), I am talking about my personal feelings...I like to be seduced and I like to seduce...I am referring to seduction between two consenting adults who are in complete control of their faculties  ..I'm not talking about forced sex, sex with minors, sex with people under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, or sex with the mentally challenged ...I'm talking about two adults who want to indulge in some hot, erotic acts of seduction because they know or hope it will lead to having intercourse...or banging...or screwing...or balling...or humping....or what ever else anyone wants to call it...This is not high school and I'm pretty sure the virgins are covering their ears and humming loudly....In my world, sex is a fabulous thing and foreplay, romance, and seduction all serve to make a fabulous thing even better...Vote yes for The Art of Seduction.....
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I think Lake nailed it.
I don't think seduction is a bad thing either. It doesn't always mean that one person took advantage of the other. It's more about gentle persuasion. I think you nailed it, Lake, when you were talking about sensuality and touch. I think that's exactly what is needed here. I wonder if younger people who are sexually active really explore the power of touch. My late roommate told me that although he had been married twice he had never just held a woman until he was with his last girl friend. I guess he was always in a hurry to get down to business. After he got bladder cancer and had trouble getting an erection he had to learn to do things differently. |
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just a few thoughts on the subject of being seduced
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Isn't the purpose of romancing,
SEDUCTION ? |
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Isn't the purpose of romancing, SEDUCTION ? 
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Edited by
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Thu 05/29/14 12:55 PM
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OH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
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Edited by
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Thu 05/29/14 01:08 PM
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"Buy him a collar & leash...old dawgs CAN learn new tricks...  "
"Always wanted to know how I would do as a dominatrix." Crack me the Hell up Esme and Q 
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just give him the look from across the room You mean, like THIS? It could be the breathy voice spoken right in his ear about what you want to do. Been there many times. Had a few restraining orders for it. What? I was feeling lonely and horny. Did you really expect me to ignore it? ;) it's foreplay and it's HAWT... And you can order it, right here on QVC, for $1000. |
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...I'm talking about two adults who want to indulge in some hot, erotic acts of seduction because they know or hope it will lead to having intercourse...or banging...or screwing...or balling...or humping....or what ever else anyone wants to call it... I like to call it "The Making Of The Boom Boom"... Sorry, couldn't resist...
But as far as seduction being considered a bad thing by some...I think a lot of that comes from soap operas (the "powerless girl" lamenting "He seduced me!")...or the younger guy who says that Mrs. Robinson seduced him. Puh-leeeeeeeaze! Take responsibility for your own actions, ok!?! |
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So, I am dating this guy... Oh all right, I had one date. I guess that doesn't mean that I'm dating him. And it took a year for us to actually meet. He lives about an hour and a half away from me. He's a bit older than I am. Since I'm as old as dirt, that makes him older than dirt. The times have changed since we were young. There used to be more courting involved and not so much "wham, bam, thank you ma'am." Now Miley Cyrus might think that folks over forty aren't interested in sex but I can assure her that folks over seventy are still interested. Some of us over sixty folks do remember romance. I think this guy might need a course called Seduction 101. What topics would be included in a course like that? Leigh, you just said that you don't see how some people can see seduction as a bad thing and then wholeheartedly agreed with a post where it was stated that it should only happen within an already established relationship. So?..... Well, obviously that implies that there's something wrong about it otherwise. We've got SweetestGirl saying something about how women shouldn't try to seduce men and I assume that she's talking about before a relationship has been established. What about what I'm talking about where you've got someone telling you that it's just sex and not a relationship? When is the relationship established? People aren't going to agree about that on here but if I say that as far as I'm concerned it starts from when you become lovers and there's likely to be some seduction involved there, the relationship isn't even getting off the ground without it. A lot of people clearly think that there's something wrong with seduction because it's about getting your way with someone and it's not necessary if they're already consenting. That's what I think about when people talk about seduction. It can be fun but maybe I don't want some woman saying in the morning that I seduced her and complaining that I took advantage of her or trying to say that it wasn't really what she wanted to do and that it doesn't mean that she wants to get involved. I've got no personal problem with it myself but I take responsibility for my actions and I'm not the one saying that men will think less of a woman if she does it. Brought the OP along for reference...She is biotching about lack of romance, lumping it together with the art of seduction, and asking a question about how to improve (instill) that art in someone she feels is clueless....Some went lighthearted with their responses, some did not...When I talk about seduction (and romance), I am talking about my personal feelings...I like to be seduced and I like to seduce...I am referring to seduction between two consenting adults who are in complete control of their faculties ..I'm not talking about forced sex, sex with minors, sex with people under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, or sex with the mentally challenged ...I'm talking about two adults who want to indulge in some hot, erotic acts of seduction because they know or hope it will lead to having intercourse...or banging...or screwing...or balling...or humping....or what ever else anyone wants to call it...This is not high school and I'm pretty sure the virgins are covering their ears and humming loudly....In my world, sex is a fabulous thing and foreplay, romance, and seduction all serve to make a fabulous thing even better...Vote yes for The Art of Seduction.....
Oh, come on. Saying that it was just because you were drunk is as bad as saying that you were seduced. You trying to tell me that I can't offer a lady a drink now or what? I'm just supposed to date teatotalers, am I? I can see where we differ on this. For me sex is this mad crazy thing and it's about getting freaky and not thinking about it in some clinical manner. The seduction is persuasion and somewhat coercive. A person may or may or may not feel pressured by it. They may or may not act impulsively but sexual arousal is an impulse and it isn't just about foreplay to keep things interesting but about trying to get someone to have sex with you. It's about giving them signals that that's what you want and different people go at different paces. You can find yourself in a situation where you're thinking, "This is mad" and you aren't that sure about it but you have someone seducing you by making you feel like a million dollars and that they really want you. But she seems a bit nutty you say. She's going through the menopause. She has issues. She's seeing a shrink. She's in an emotional state and isn't entirely in control of her faculties. She used me. Well, maybe I wasn't in control of my faculties either when I had sex with that woman. I failed to resist temptation and I didn't really see any harm in it. Her being a nymphomaniac made it more enjoyable, if anything. The sex I mean. I'm actually one of those guys that does like touching and not having them just lying there like a dead horse. You make a judgement about whether someone is mentally competent by seeing if they are functioning at the particular time. I don't necessarily consider it to count against her if a woman is a bit nutty. It certainly doesn't bother me if she likes to party a bit. Something like one in three people have had mental health problems in their lives and that's just the ones that want to admit it. Sometimes sex is an irresponsible sort of thing. I have no clue how a relationship's going to work out or if a woman is going to get all weird on me when we become romantically involved. I can make an educated guess about it I suppose but at the end of the day I'll have sex with her if I want to and worry about that later. Anyone can go nuts on you. I know a guy that had a wonderful wife and family and he got depressed and became an alcoholic for no apparent reason and walked out on them. |
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So, I am dating this guy... Oh all right, I had one date. I guess that doesn't mean that I'm dating him. And it took a year for us to actually meet. He lives about an hour and a half away from me. He's a bit older than I am. Since I'm as old as dirt, that makes him older than dirt. The times have changed since we were young. There used to be more courting involved and not so much "wham, bam, thank you ma'am." Now Miley Cyrus might think that folks over forty aren't interested in sex but I can assure her that folks over seventy are still interested. Some of us over sixty folks do remember romance. I think this guy might need a course called Seduction 101. What topics would be included in a course like that? Leigh, you just said that you don't see how some people can see seduction as a bad thing and then wholeheartedly agreed with a post where it was stated that it should only happen within an already established relationship. So?..... Well, obviously that implies that there's something wrong about it otherwise. We've got SweetestGirl saying something about how women shouldn't try to seduce men and I assume that she's talking about before a relationship has been established. What about what I'm talking about where you've got someone telling you that it's just sex and not a relationship? When is the relationship established? People aren't going to agree about that on here but if I say that as far as I'm concerned it starts from when you become lovers and there's likely to be some seduction involved there, the relationship isn't even getting off the ground without it. A lot of people clearly think that there's something wrong with seduction because it's about getting your way with someone and it's not necessary if they're already consenting. That's what I think about when people talk about seduction. It can be fun but maybe I don't want some woman saying in the morning that I seduced her and complaining that I took advantage of her or trying to say that it wasn't really what she wanted to do and that it doesn't mean that she wants to get involved. I've got no personal problem with it myself but I take responsibility for my actions and I'm not the one saying that men will think less of a woman if she does it. Brought the OP along for reference...She is biotching about lack of romance, lumping it together with the art of seduction, and asking a question about how to improve (instill) that art in someone she feels is clueless....Some went lighthearted with their responses, some did not...When I talk about seduction (and romance), I am talking about my personal feelings...I like to be seduced and I like to seduce...I am referring to seduction between two consenting adults who are in complete control of their faculties ..I'm not talking about forced sex, sex with minors, sex with people under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, or sex with the mentally challenged ...I'm talking about two adults who want to indulge in some hot, erotic acts of seduction because they know or hope it will lead to having intercourse...or banging...or screwing...or balling...or humping....or what ever else anyone wants to call it...This is not high school and I'm pretty sure the virgins are covering their ears and humming loudly....In my world, sex is a fabulous thing and foreplay, romance, and seduction all serve to make a fabulous thing even better...Vote yes for The Art of Seduction.....
Oh, come on. Saying that it was just because you were drunk is as bad as saying that you were seduced. You trying to tell me that I can't offer a lady a drink now or what? I'm just supposed to date teatotalers, am I? I can see where we differ on this. For me sex is this mad crazy thing and it's about getting freaky and not thinking about it in some clinical manner. The seduction is persuasion and somewhat coercive. A person may or may or may not feel pressured by it. They may or may not act impulsively but sexual arousal is an impulse and it isn't just about foreplay to keep things interesting but about trying to get someone to have sex with you. It's about giving them signals that that's what you want and different people go at different paces. You can find yourself in a situation where you're thinking, "This is mad" and you aren't that sure about it but you have someone seducing you by making you feel like a million dollars and that they really want you. But she seems a bit nutty you say. She's going through the menopause. She has issues. She's seeing a shrink. She's in an emotional state and isn't entirely in control of her faculties. She used me. Well, maybe I wasn't in control of my faculties either when I had sex with that woman. I failed to resist temptation and I didn't really see any harm in it. Her being a nymphomaniac made it more enjoyable, if anything. The sex I mean. I'm actually one of those guys that does like touching and not having them just lying there like a dead horse. You make a judgement about whether someone is mentally competent by seeing if they are functioning at the particular time. I don't necessarily consider it to count against her if a woman is a bit nutty. It certainly doesn't bother me if she likes to party a bit. Something like one in three people have had mental health problems in their lives and that's just the ones that want to admit it. Sometimes sex is an irresponsible sort of thing. I have no clue how a relationship's going to work out or if a woman is going to get all weird on me when we become romantically involved. I can make an educated guess about it I suppose but at the end of the day I'll have sex with her if I want to and worry about that later. Anyone can go nuts on you. I know a guy that had a wonderful wife and family and he got depressed and became an alcoholic for no apparent reason and walked out on them. What you don't seem to understand is I'm not trying to tell you anything Tawt...Run your life any old way you like...Do whatever works for you babe ....I'm talking about MY life and MY take on seduction....And "trying" is relative...Some have to try harder than others, know what I mean?
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Now Miley Cyrus might think that folks over forty aren't interested in sex Oh, you DIDN'T just go there.  . Let's not bring Miley Cyprus into this. She's the last thing I want to be thinking about, while some guy is licking me out, thanks.
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So, I am dating this guy... Oh all right, I had one date. I guess that doesn't mean that I'm dating him. And it took a year for us to actually meet. He lives about an hour and a half away from me. He's a bit older than I am. Since I'm as old as dirt, that makes him older than dirt. The times have changed since we were young. There used to be more courting involved and not so much "wham, bam, thank you ma'am." Now Miley Cyrus might think that folks over forty aren't interested in sex but I can assure her that folks over seventy are still interested. Some of us over sixty folks do remember romance. I think this guy might need a course called Seduction 101. What topics would be included in a course like that? Leigh, you just said that you don't see how some people can see seduction as a bad thing and then wholeheartedly agreed with a post where it was stated that it should only happen within an already established relationship. So?..... Well, obviously that implies that there's something wrong about it otherwise. We've got SweetestGirl saying something about how women shouldn't try to seduce men and I assume that she's talking about before a relationship has been established. What about what I'm talking about where you've got someone telling you that it's just sex and not a relationship? When is the relationship established? People aren't going to agree about that on here but if I say that as far as I'm concerned it starts from when you become lovers and there's likely to be some seduction involved there, the relationship isn't even getting off the ground without it. A lot of people clearly think that there's something wrong with seduction because it's about getting your way with someone and it's not necessary if they're already consenting. That's what I think about when people talk about seduction. It can be fun but maybe I don't want some woman saying in the morning that I seduced her and complaining that I took advantage of her or trying to say that it wasn't really what she wanted to do and that it doesn't mean that she wants to get involved. I've got no personal problem with it myself but I take responsibility for my actions and I'm not the one saying that men will think less of a woman if she does it. Brought the OP along for reference...She is biotching about lack of romance, lumping it together with the art of seduction, and asking a question about how to improve (instill) that art in someone she feels is clueless....Some went lighthearted with their responses, some did not...When I talk about seduction (and romance), I am talking about my personal feelings...I like to be seduced and I like to seduce...I am referring to seduction between two consenting adults who are in complete control of their faculties ..I'm not talking about forced sex, sex with minors, sex with people under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol, or sex with the mentally challenged ...I'm talking about two adults who want to indulge in some hot, erotic acts of seduction because they know or hope it will lead to having intercourse...or banging...or screwing...or balling...or humping....or what ever else anyone wants to call it...This is not high school and I'm pretty sure the virgins are covering their ears and humming loudly....In my world, sex is a fabulous thing and foreplay, romance, and seduction all serve to make a fabulous thing even better...Vote yes for The Art of Seduction.....
Oh, come on. Saying that it was just because you were drunk is as bad as saying that you were seduced. You trying to tell me that I can't offer a lady a drink now or what? I'm just supposed to date teatotalers, am I? I can see where we differ on this. For me sex is this mad crazy thing and it's about getting freaky and not thinking about it in some clinical manner. The seduction is persuasion and somewhat coercive. A person may or may or may not feel pressured by it. They may or may not act impulsively but sexual arousal is an impulse and it isn't just about foreplay to keep things interesting but about trying to get someone to have sex with you. It's about giving them signals that that's what you want and different people go at different paces. You can find yourself in a situation where you're thinking, "This is mad" and you aren't that sure about it but you have someone seducing you by making you feel like a million dollars and that they really want you. But she seems a bit nutty you say. She's going through the menopause. She has issues. She's seeing a shrink. She's in an emotional state and isn't entirely in control of her faculties. She used me. Well, maybe I wasn't in control of my faculties either when I had sex with that woman. I failed to resist temptation and I didn't really see any harm in it. Her being a nymphomaniac made it more enjoyable, if anything. The sex I mean. I'm actually one of those guys that does like touching and not having them just lying there like a dead horse. You make a judgement about whether someone is mentally competent by seeing if they are functioning at the particular time. I don't necessarily consider it to count against her if a woman is a bit nutty. It certainly doesn't bother me if she likes to party a bit. Something like one in three people have had mental health problems in their lives and that's just the ones that want to admit it. Sometimes sex is an irresponsible sort of thing. I have no clue how a relationship's going to work out or if a woman is going to get all weird on me when we become romantically involved. I can make an educated guess about it I suppose but at the end of the day I'll have sex with her if I want to and worry about that later. Anyone can go nuts on you. I know a guy that had a wonderful wife and family and he got depressed and became an alcoholic for no apparent reason and walked out on them. What you don't seem to understand is I'm not trying to tell you anything Tawt...Run your life any old way you like...Do whatever works for you babe ....I'm talking about MY life and MY take on seduction....And "trying" is relative...Some have to try harder than others, know what I mean?
Well yeah. I had one making me wait for two weeks once. The way that I saw it, we both knew that it was going to happen and she was holding out on me. The way that she saw it, she wanted to shag me and didn't want to wait any longer. Practically dragged me through to the bedroom, she did. All I had asked her was if she was going to get her boobs out as well. I'm subtle like that. |
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.. I would put my 2 cents in..
.. but at my age.. I just can't afford it.     
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