Stupid Libs wanted to make it about changing Florida's Stand Your Ground Law.

Like other wet stuff, it blew up in their faces.

It's not personal my friend, but law enforcement, no matter under what title they serve, has gone from protecting the people to terrorizing them under the "presumption" of law and misguided beliefs.

Our 2nd amendment and the Constitution in general is under attack, and when I hear people using Z and the Martin case to promote gun control on law abiding citizens, when he was found NOT GUILTY by a jury of his peers, but they won't accept THAT fact in their ignorance or personal desire, it inflames every moral and ethical bone in my body.

Either we are a nation of laws, or we're not. The Constitution IS the law, and under due process Z was found innocent of the charges brought against him. Those who still wish to make a case of that finding need to get a life..... even if they wish to think "one got away", it won't be the first or the last time for disappointment in their lives, and they need to get over themselves.

When I worked in D.C. I lived in Virginia so I could keep my guns, I grew up in Washington State, where I had my gun safety course by 9 years old, and I have owned guns pretty much since then. I despise what our gun control laws have become and I agree with you on the fact that the Constitution should be the FOUNDATION of our laws, but our laws have grown and grown, and our justice system has become something it was never intended to be.....however, this isn't a topic on either of these things, in my opinion, Gun control laws and the importance of the Constitution have nothing to do with some wanna-be superstar signing guns at a gun-show, the only reason people even tie him to guns in the first place is because of the media-circus that was his trial, what is he known for? is he known for his career? nope.
Is he known for his skills with a gun? is he an expert marksman who competed in tournaments whose skills you would respect and admire? nope
Is he known as a security professional who taught classes nationwide? nope

But what he is known for is killing a young teenage boy, whether he was justified in doing so is irrelevant.

Showing up to a gun to sign autographs when all you're known for is using a gun to take someones life, in my opinion does more for the people who want to enforce stricter gun laws than it does for those of us who want to keep our weapons and value the second amendment.

I would rather have Jesse Tischauser signing autographs at a gun show any day over Zimmerman, at least he could teach me something, a technique, a tip, I respect his skill. What does Zimmerman add to a gunshow? Nothing, nada, zip....oh wait that's right it stirs up controversy....no thanks not into it, because all it promotes is drama, gives bad press to the gun shows, and will be publicized in a negative way...it was in poor taste for him to be their doing that in the first place.

Oh I do love that one, cost the bigoted idiot $10,000. But being it has again been reposted wonder if they will reinstate for the $1.2 million originally asked. Well, no problem, I did forward this to that kind old couple in Florida.

But I am talking to some sign makers about getting copies of that sign for my gun supporting friends.

Obama signs autographs and makes speeches even after droning a 17 yr old boy and his friends who had broken no laws or even met the POTUS

So you don't believe in gun rights or is it just a misunderstanding of what a right is?



I guess this answers the first question, no belief in the constitution either.



So what does have to do with Georgie singing autographs at a gun show? And what part of Article 1 Section 10 is not understood?



The education system of these united States has destroyed the ability of most to think in critical terms. It has destroyed the most fundamental meanings of freedom and the rights bestowed by our creator. Man, as has happened so many times in the past, is destined to again have to pay for the sins of forgetting what freedom means.

Chronic unemployment also speeds the manifestation of brain function activity.

Just check out liberal posters.

again misunderstanding pretty much everything I said, while at the same time, yet again going off-topic

I could go on and clarify every thing you misunderstood, but I won't because this topic isn't about me, it isn't about any other member here either(unless Zimmerman wants to create an account and join the discussion), unlike some people I prefer to stay on one topic.

Are we discussing education in the U.S(no)

Are we discussing the constitution(no)

Are we discussing Gun Control(no)

So taking the above topics out of consideration, no value to this post, oh except yet another Ad Hominem argument, but also managed to slip in a slipper-slope fallacy as well impressive.

Master Z did what was necessary to obtain his CC.

He was an excellent shot after he was attacked.

Many stand your ground killings have happened since then. They just don't fit the Fed agenda.

I haven't misunderstood anything, seems perfectly clear. This whole thread is about Georgie, a gun show, gun rights so aptly defended by Georgie, unalienable rights so aptly defended by Georgie and the education for rights so aptly defended by Georgie.

No this isn't about you but your position on the matter at hand and your statement pretty much explains your position as related to Georgie and his rights, especially guns which many have attempted to take from him.

And I love how those that have no defense of their remarks always accuse another of some perceived personal attack, the signature of the entitlement crowd.

I agree. Putting people in danger with irresponsible actions is idiotic

But its applauded, by some, if its the right people being put in danger,,,,

If it's idiotic, then why do you continue to propagate the action? Never mind that was a self answering question.

The entitlement crowd, only thinks about themselves and their little self centered beliefs that they can violate the rights of others, they are entitled and never responsible.

But thank god for the Georgies of the world, some get sent to their just reward.

I don't go around hitting people, I don't condone it

but if someone hits me first, well, all bets are off

the idea of putting INDIVIDUALS in specific danger was applauded, so I just gave another example to reinforce that persons apparent point of view and find out if it was TRULY something they applaud

seeing as the behavior was applauded in one post and condemned in the next

I guess its just another hypocritical double standard

Ain't that a double standard?

If you shot, or stabbed someone who was hitting you, would you want a jury to find you innocent? Or, would you insist you was guilty of murder?

Dead Thug hit, first and repeatedly, Big Z.

Master Z did like you said. All bets were off.

no double standard

one is attack and one is defense

details matter:

IF I started a fight with someone who got the better of me and the ONLY defense I even attempted was a shot or a knife, I would expect guilty

IF someone started a fight with fists, I would fight back
If someone started a fight with a gun, I would fight back, If I could find a gun or knife, I would fight back with a weapon of my own


IF someone started a fight with a knife, I would fight back, If I could find a gun or knife, I would fight back with a weapon of my own


no one knows who hit first, each only ASSUMES What seems likely to them

likely to me, this boy trying to get AWAY from a man who was convinced not to let him 'get away'

upon realizing he couldn't lose him, verbally confronted him and was met with an attempt to detain that lead to a fight , that lead to the disclosure of a gun, that lead to a fight for their lives,, which the boy lost,,,

All pure BS no matter how many times it is said.

and the one left standing will never 'rest',,,,




his life of paranoia can be a constant reminder of how his victim felt,,,,

So you've gone from hating Georgie to being his best friend and knowing what he thinks.



And his so called "victim", aptly known as thug, felt as he had that sucka and was going to crack his skull as a bullet passed through his heart, instant death. Too bad about the instant part.

Live like a thug, die like a thug.

u are mistaken,, I never 'hated' George

I dont know him

I judge him as a bully and coward because of the fact that he could not beat a 150 pound teen although he tracked him down thinking he could,,

and because of his record of being cuffed and accused of aggressive behaviors...


live like a thug, die like a thug,, someone should warn george,, one day he will run up against a woman with a vigilante mindset or family member:


In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an alcohol education program. (AGGRESSIVE AND ALCOHOLIC< GOOD THING OLD GEORGE GOT A PASS ON A TOX TEST THAT NIGHT)

n the same year (2005), Zimmerman's ex-fiance, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order, alleging domestic violence. In retaliation, Zimmerman filed for a retraining order against Zuazo and both these claims were resolved with both restraining orders granted.

The next year, in 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. However, that case was dismissed because the officer who charged him failed to show up at the court.

In 2012, he is acquitted of killing an unarmed teen after being heard on an emergency call admitting to following him and irritated that he might 'get away'

In 2013, wife calls 911 to report he has hit her father and threatened them with a gun

IN the same year, the girlfriend also calls 911 over a domestic dispute

but IM sure all these women just 'attacked' him and he was defending himself,,,

Sure's hell won't be shabitch, Fairycan, or stumpton taking him down.

They all chickenshitz wiff big moufs.