its a huge assumption that has yet to be proven true

fraud at the polls is EXTREMELY Rare

its a counterproductive law, infringing upon peoples right to vote by causing an unnecessary poll expense (ids expire and must be paid for renewal, get lost and must be paid to replace,,etc,,)

which , til now, has been rightfully against the law

What a laugh, a committee of students form multiple universities determine their is no voter fraud, priceless.

I would guess that next there would be a claim that Odumbo isn't prejudice.

Non-citizens caught voting in 2012 presidential election in key swing state

Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraud

Secretary of State Husted Releases Post-2012 General Election Voter Fraud Report

And I really like this one...

VOTING FRAUD 21TH CENTURY SOCIALISM 1. Destroy the Economy DONE! 2. Destroy the Rights to Privacy DONE! 3. Socialize Medicine DONE! 4. Destroy the Rights to PROPERTY IMPLEMENTING NOW! AND 5. CONTROL VOTING TO REMAIN IN POWER USING ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES!

But that's ok, why would an Odumboite want a concise answer, can't twist anything there can they?

I need to show ID and pay a fee to exercise my 2nd Amendment right to purchase a firearm.

So based on your premise that once is enough then I guess we should not be required every time we buy a firearm..

id is required to register already

similar to 'benefits' where it is required to apply

it isn't required everytime one receives the benefit
nor should it be required everytime one uses their right to vote once they have registered


That would be easy to repair, drop the benefits and require all voters to be land owners just as the founders instilled.

I find it rather condescending towards minorities that democrats think it's TOO DIFFICULT for them to get a FREE picture ID and it's TOO BURDENSOME for them to bring it when they exercise their right to vote.

I give minorities much more credit and feel they are just as capable as white people to acquire and present a picture ID. To think and suggest they aren't as capable really is kind of a racist notion.

When I registered to vote I didn't have to prove I was an American citizen, I only had to show my drivers license. I had a divers license long before becoming a naturalized citizen. I found this disturbing since a non-citizen LEGAL immigrant isn't allowed to vote. Personally I think you should have to PROVE you are a citizen when you first register to vote.

The later would work perfectly as man is inherently not trustworthy.

Wrong again, that little card does require an id, the pin number. Of course you can give your pin number to anyone you desire, your right but then also your responsibility.

But not so with the ole voter card. It can be given to no one, would be fraud otherwise. Gee, isn't that what is happening.



Wrong again, unemployment is a right that was purchased in advance. Sometimes called an insurance, another of those insurances forced at the point of a gun.

But it still uses that little EBT card which requires a pin number, your id. Not only an id but a method of tracking the user, that's such a comforting thought.



Wrong again, voting is a privilege. In order to vote you must be "qualified". Qualified means to be diminished in some way. Diminished means you had to give up something in order to qualify therefore it could be said that the voter is not totally trustworthy. But that is what liberals like, someone that can be manipulated.

Pure hogwash, especially the last sentence!!!

So inconvenient to keep up an id, but not inconvenient when standing in the benefits line. The motto of the "freeloader". The battle cry of the "entitled". The demeanor of the socialist.

Well I for one believe that if you want to vote, have a stake in the game, become a property owner. Otherwise you are just looking to freeload from another.

But what is really nice, here in the republic, we refused to be diminished. We care not whom is elected but we do hold them accountable, not at the ballot box but in the courts.

So you elect them, we correct them. Works for me.

Just repeating the same bull, didn't fly many posts back and doesn't hold water here no matter how many times it is repeated. That only works on Odumoites.

Actually, it should not be required even on the first time.


"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So unless you can prove that I'm not a "people" then you have violated my right.

You did under penalty of perjury when you checked that little box on the voter registration card.

And why would they doubt you, you just declared you were a "citizen" and "qualified" elector that wanted to choose someone else to represent you because of your diminished capacity.

And now you have shown them that "government" approved id, the driver's license which showed you were involved in commerce approved by the state.

Gee what can happen to people that don't understand the whole story and refuse to reserve their rights.

Bingo!

Smartazzjohn, you have revealed the deep-seated racism of the Democratic Party.

"Those minorities are incapable of doing what whites are capable of. So, we had better keep minorities on the Democratic Party plantation so that we can take care of them."

for each firearm for which you need the permit, yes



we don't need to reregister each time we vote

so the analogy doesn't fit,,,

That would be easy to repair, drop the benefits and require all voters to be land owners just as the founders instilled.


yes, that would work well for the slaveownesr, who own the laborers that cant afford to own anything themselves,,

its not about whether its 'too difficult'

its about being disenfranchised due to economics

and whether the economically disenfranchised should have to be disenfranchised from an election by using NEW election standards that will keep them from the vote they have registered for the right to have,,,

if there is a foreward applied voter id that switches out the mailed cards with a voter card that is FREE upon registration with photo included,, that is a different matter

but to suddenly tell people who registered that their registration wont be honored unless they have also purchased or maintained a photo id, is a HUGE Matter of disenfranchising those from more economically deprived situations,,,

yes, that would work well for the slaveownesr, who own the laborers that cant afford to own anything themselves,,




Isn't free choice grand!!!

But it would work only if that disenfranchised segment were in total disenfranchasied.

And your argument still does not hold water. They somehow had id when registered and now it is impossible to maintain but that should be overlooked. Doubt it.

How much does it cost to obtain a photo ID that is good for 4 years? Is it so much that poor people can't afford one?

How is it that poor white people can afford to obtain photo IDs but poor people of color can't?

The "economic" argument is based on an assumption that a photo ID is too expensive for poor people to obtain. Yet, somehow, poor people manage to have photo ID whenever they do business with the government in order to obtain financial assistance.

Again, you are saying that there is something that white people can do that people of color can't do.

in most states, an "illegal" cannot get a DL... thats why the libs want them to have a free pass to vote

we need one here every time we Vote,and we vote rather often!
It is sent to our place of residence along with the Ballots,and has to be signed and presented before deposition of the Ballots in the Box!
It is not a Photo-ID,but the Voting-Officer has the authority to request additional ID if he thinks that something isn't kosher!
Not likely,since it is mailed directly to you!
Voting without having to show ID,merely on your Good Looks or Honest Face is the height of Baloney!