Not always no means no ..

Can you be more specific please?

Oh wow......there are a lot of times the word "no" does not mean stop or "no".

Let me add that all parties involved would already know that though.

Hi Captain ....Exactly!!!....So if you find yourself in a, er um, compromising position and the word no comes up (excuse the pun) best to take it at face value and stop whatever it is you're doing.....

Arousal? Comfort zones? Perhaps I am too old school. I am not sure I can say this in a PC way. The example, I was at Mardi Gras, with a buddy (who consistently has gotten me in trouble, as a hornier bastard you may never find), need to get to the airport that evening to go home. He shows up with two women; I insist he sets an alarm. Later, in middle of coitus, the alarm goes off- we both just hop up (or off) say sorry ladies we have a plane to catch and leave. In the middle- there is no point of "no return".

Very funny Rich, especially the part where you claim it is the friends fault!

That is the job of the Wingman! Besides they brought Cafe du Monde and beignets, small price to pay for a good breakfast!

Wingman my arse!!

Its not that I don't have opinions on this subject, but its probably best if I leave it alone.

That's much different than what we've been discussing, though.

You know I did raise a question of pertinent to all these "LIBERATED" women out there.

What would you call another woman who you know is screwing everything on two (and possibly four) legs trying to get a piece of "your" man?


Since we are on the topic of what women DON'T do, and this has been raised by the NO crowd, how about those women who seek sexual gratification from the help of our four footed friends? I mean people will give a man crap about wandering the barnyard. So how about those women?

Seriously! So many of you want to paint all women as saints and all men as sinners.

Women who are sexually promiscuous are not sluts...

That is indeed not true. I love a woman who is just as horny as me and unafraid to initiate and finish sex! if she is honest with me about not being the only one, if I chose to pursue her I HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL HER ANYTHING!

Here I show open minded I really am.


What is good for the Goose is good for the Gander. He wants to be a man whore that is his prerogative much like any woman who wants to screw anyone she pleases! If my woman (as in a woman I am directly involved with at the moment) is getting mad at me becasue I cannot keep up and I don't want to share, there are two honorable paths in this, get to work to take care of business a little better or set her free! If she crosses to put up with me then that is her choice. She is free to make it! God knows the number of times I had a woman leave me promising to see me later never to see or hear from her again. But in that freedom your actions and conduct still speak of who and what you are.

Madonna, the singer, you are aware that Dennis Rodman said of her, "Take a number." Walk like a duck, quack like a duck.

Yes I am an opinionated prick but at least I am not a hypocrite. This topic has come a LONG way from the OP. It has turned from a question asking for an opinion to a mad witch hunt for some of us Neanderthals! Don't ask a question you know you will not like the answer. People have turned this from a debate to a flat out hot bed of callous accusation and recusation. I am sure there are members here in this group that are emailing each other to spread he word of "Potential RAPISTS" on this site. This is atypical of the High School Clique` Set and it is true a lot of people never outgrow old bad habits and people seem to hit a point in their lives they stop growing as people. This has become a form of bullying that actually I feel is far weaker than a real physical bully. I despise bullies. And here there is a group of them.

Don't think I am going to change my mind. So what, No means No. Yell NO as loud as you can when a bear you were feeding against the advice of the park rangers and all those signs you could read that say DO NOT FEED THE BEARS is trying to eat you!

ONE MORE TIME!!!



IF YOU PUT YOURSELF IN A PLACE OF DANGER AND GET HURT, YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVE!

Who the heck taught some of you morals let alone taught you anything of meaning or consequence? No wonder there are so many victims on this world, I see a lot of people here who if they had to face REAL evil would fold like a house of cards in a hurricane!

It is pretty convenient to paint someone in a color of your choosing when you cannot even clearly read the words that are written let alone spoken.

Saying "YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE WHEN YOU PUT YOURSELF IN DANGER," vs. No means No is not a condoning of rape or any other behavior.

All this has degenerated into is empowering women to exercise bad behavior, rudeness, and using the justice system as a weapon against men since women appear to be too weak to do their own dirty work.

Maybe equality really is too much for some women. I sure don't feel equal here. All I see are some reasonable people and a lot of bleating sheeple. It is not a matter of agreeing with me at all. It is a matter of how you can GRASP INTELLECTUAL CONCEPTS EXPRESSED IN WRITING HERE THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE!

To those of you who still want to believe you don't deserve what you get. Now we all know it is dangerous to mess with fire ants, how about this, take a hand shovel and go dig a nest of them up and see what you get. I say if you mess with them you will get stung and bitten and find out why they are called fire ants. I say Don't do it. So go ahead and BE the dumbass who tries to dig up a fire ant nest with a little hand shovel. DO IT IN SHORTS AND A TEE SHIRT! maybe wear those cute sandals you like so much! Cry when you get your hands and feet stung up when those fire ants get really mad. And see how many of us say, "You were told not to dig up fire ants like that. YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED!"

Well, for one a good way to prevent rape is "DON'T COME OFF LIKE A SLUT." In know of a few women that DO INDEED COME OFF LIKE SLUTS! Why do you think I will NEVER EVER DATE THEM AND WOULD NEVER ASK THEM OUT?

Again I admit I am an opinionated azzhole but like I said before, I am not a hypocrite and I know for a fact I am not a misogynist. There are TOO many women that will back me on that one in the face of the few who may feel that way!

So now what... Argue with the devil over sin some more?


I'm good with that!

I just made another funny!

You're getting off topic, Andy. This isn't a thread about cheating or bestiality. And what is your obsession with bringing animals into a discussion about humans? You do it in almost every post.

Also, you're accusing people of bullying you by assuming they are emailing about you? You're grasping at straws.



Just because you think someone is slutty does not mean she deserves to be raped. You're digging yourself a deeper hole with each post, Andy.

it matters in the law

realistically, in the act, it matters much less

you are correct, in my opinion, that sex becomes physical enough that the physical cues become the focus for many people, and not the syllables and sounds tht might be being made ,,,,,,


it should be about the physical cues,, and they SHOULD be matching the words coming from ones mouth,,,


but, too often, for too many, its not that simple,,,

Who's Huffy!!! I still say ask all questions before hand, but that is Me. And, again a woman shouldn't put herself in that postion until she is Ready for it, plan it !!!
My answer it the Same, for Me. IMO

I have had to stop in the middle of the act, just because she asked me to. It was difficult, to say the least, but I was so into her I stopped to show her how much I cared. So no or stop means just that.

Now you are saying PLAN SEX?!!...Ever heard of spontaneity?...

I presume, her body language matched her words,,,,,

sounds like you 'cared' enough to probably be observing both,,,

No, she couldn't stop, but she managed to ask me. It didn't save our relationship though, she broke it off and wouldn't marry me because "she wasn't good enough" phooey. I know my heart didn't care to hear that.

Yes,...I heard of it and the Women Yells NO..Stop when she doesnt want to complete the spontaneity.
We Disagree , no need to try and change others minds, we all have our own opinions on Matters here.