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before being offended,, realize this is just a statement about PRESENTATION,, of course dave chapelle would be able to open his mouth and clear up the confusion,,but the confusion would still initially be there likewise, someone dressed like they were standing on the corner, can likeiwse open their mouth to clear up the confusion,,,but the confusion is still there initially and then, dave chapelle could decide to open his mouth and use police language, police behavior,,etc,,,making the 'assumption' that he is a cop seem reasonable |
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women who are sexually 'free', can be insulted as 'sluts' or embraced as 'popular'
similarly, men who are sexually 'free', might be embraced as 'studs' or insulted as 'womanizers' |
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be responsible,, dont start what you cant finish that goes for anything in life and be careful how you present yourself,, that goes for most things in life too,,,, just like most office employers arent going to take an applicant as a serious prospect for employment if they come in in cut off shorts and a tank top with a baseball cap and most women arent going to consider a guy they just saw approach ten other women before approaching them with a cheesy line most men are not gonna consider a woman interested in much of anything 'serious' or committed, if they have seen them being 'free' with a bunch of fellas before them before coming onto them in enticing/revealing clothing and behaviors presentation and responsibility..every bit as important as 'blame'  Tell that crap to Erin Brockovich....a true story don't ya know....
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before being offended,, realize this is just a statement about PRESENTATION,, of course dave chapelle would be able to open his mouth and clear up the confusion,,but the confusion would still initially be there likewise, someone dressed like they were standing on the corner, can likeiwse open their mouth to clear up the confusion,,,but the confusion is still there initially and then, dave chapelle could decide to open his mouth and use police language, police behavior,,etc,,,making the 'assumption' that he is a cop seem reasonable OH MY! MORE INCREDIBLE WISDOM! Thank you Msharmony! And from Dave Chappel no less! For the other women here on their crusade against men... Like I said, IT IS ALL IN THE PRESENTATION! I could care less if a woman wants to be promiscuous. Us men are told to keep it to ourselves, well, same for you women out there! Now for double standard. This goes out to those women who get offended at the idea a man can call a promiscuous woman a slut, You can date as many men as you like, but god forbid I should see another woman? I have had two women use that line on me. One was dating other men and effing them behind my back and when I found out, I dismissed her too! She got pissed off at me for just LOOKING at other women but oh how she loved to size us men up. Walk like a Duck, Quack like a duck, look like a duck... You are a DUCK! I am not against a woman getting hers. I am against women who hold us men to a hypocritical double standard! You don't like it? Well, there are women here who seem to agree with some of us man pig things you hate so much becasue some of us men are MISOGYNISTIC DEVIANTS! OH NO, we have nothing to contribute to help a woman protect herself. We just have to maintain a stranglehold on our peckers at all times or god forbid we should anger some Overly Victorian woman who has been spending far too much time watching Sex in the City and fortifying the ideals that men are in total control of you women and that is so unfair. Your freedom has gone to your head! [imh]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PCLjuEnRA0/TqhALDYAlVI/AAAAAAAAFNw/2kgJey_sthw/s1600/John-Cleese-Monty-Python-Holy-Grail-French-taunt.jpg Shall I taunt the man haters some more or have you had enough? |
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Just felt like repeating this...ho hum......ho hum.......
The ONLY reason social attitudes toward sexual assault remain regressive is because men are still demonizing promiscuous women...Women still live with the knowledge that arbitrary judgements will be made about them when it comes to how many sexual partners they have had, how many divorces they have endured, how big their breasts are, how tight their azz is, how shapely their legs are, and how short they wear their skirts....If a man has a lot of sexual partners, he's a stud...If a woman has a lot of sexual partners, she's a slut...It's a huge double standard and it is BS!... The ONLY way to improve social attitudes toward rape and yes, rape victims, is to END sexual hypocrisy!!...The number of men a woman chooses to have sex with is her business and hers alone and is NOT related to morality...MORE IMPORTANTLY, it in no way compromises her RIGHT TO SAY NO to a boyfriend, a husband, or a one night stand AT ANY POINT DURING SEXUAL INTERACTION!... The ONLY thing that causes rape is a perpetrators decision to rape!...So grow up boys, grow up and deal with it....NO MEANS NO.... |
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correct leigh
no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail Yeppers...and I think this fact really pizzes off a few of the boys...What say you Sweet?... |
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LoL Well for example at a place I used to work there was a girl that was on the phone while I was getting ready for work at my locker. While talking on the phone she told the person she was speaking with that she had been raped. Totally get the feeling she was talking to that person yet sort of directing it at me as though she wanted me to over hear it. Like she was trying to get my attention in an immature way. Crap like this ... I have seen since high school... How could you not know what I was talking about. So, you just assumed she was lying? Also, you didn't say how many "many women" means. Do not get me wrong singme ... If I was prolly being told the truth I prolly would have believed her... Not anti-woman when it comes to an actual accusation... still feel sorry for the guy some times.. penalties are kind of stiff. Got it. They were prolly lying because you didn't believe them. If they were innocent, then yes, I would feel sorry for them having to go through dealing with false accusations. But, just saying the women were prolly lying because you didn't believe them doesn't tell me anything. |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail Yeppers...and I think this fact really pizzes off a few of the boys...What say you Sweet?... Some guys think they are entitled to sex, so yes, I do think it pisses some of them off. |
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be responsible,, dont start what you cant finish that goes for anything in life and be careful how you present yourself,, that goes for most things in life too,,,, just like most office employers arent going to take an applicant as a serious prospect for employment if they come in in cut off shorts and a tank top with a baseball cap and most women arent going to consider a guy they just saw approach ten other women before approaching them with a cheesy line most men are not gonna consider a woman interested in much of anything 'serious' or committed, if they have seen them being 'free' with a bunch of fellas before them before coming onto them in enticing/revealing clothing and behaviors presentation and responsibility..every bit as important as 'blame' Tell that crap to Erin Brockovich....a true story don't ya know....
Erin Brokovich cleared up confusion when she opened up her mouth,,,thats my point however she dressed, that initial impression, was quickly diluted by her intelligence and mannerism,,,, |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 01/01/13 07:01 PM
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail yet someone saying NO doesnt mean they were forced anymore than someone saying oh yeah means they were satisfied people sometimes have a script of how things SHOULD go, and they stick to it,, some think a slight protest should occur (the no, no, that doesnt really mean no, no) and some think a verbal validation for their partner is needed (the oh yeah, that really means good grief can this be over now) its best not to mess with such u nstable people , |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail people sometimes have a script of how things SHOULD go, and they stick to it,, some think a slight protest should occur (the no, no, that doesnt really mean no, no) and some think a verbal validation for their partner is needed (the oh yeah, that really means good grief can this be over now) its best not to mess with such u nstable people , You are not privy to everyone's sexual encounters...Unless you are referencing your personal "script", this is nothing more than supposition on your part... |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail people sometimes have a script of how things SHOULD go, and they stick to it,, some think a slight protest should occur (the no, no, that doesnt really mean no, no) and some think a verbal validation for their partner is needed (the oh yeah, that really means good grief can this be over now) its best not to mess with such u nstable people , You are not privy to everyone's sexual encounters...Unless you are referencing your personal "script", this is nothing more than supposition on your part... I dont have to be privy to EVERYONE to know about 'some', or 'sometimes' I am referencing what I know from speaking to and listening to others,,,, |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail people sometimes have a script of how things SHOULD go, and they stick to it,, some think a slight protest should occur (the no, no, that doesnt really mean no, no) and some think a verbal validation for their partner is needed (the oh yeah, that really means good grief can this be over now) its best not to mess with such u nstable people , You are not privy to everyone's sexual encounters...Unless you are referencing your personal "script", this is nothing more than supposition on your part... I dont have to be privy to EVERYONE to know about 'some', or 'sometimes' I am referencing what I know from speaking to and listening to others,,,, You listen to others while they're having sex/getting ready to have sex? |
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Edited by
Toodygirl5
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Tue 01/01/13 08:37 PM
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Yes, we totally disagree, but you said, "There are not many reasons. Ask all the questions before hand like mature adults should."...You're saying if you ask "ALL" the questions before agreeing to have sex, you reduce or eliminate the need to say no or to abort the sex act..So again, what are the questions mature adults should ask before agreeing to have sex with someone?... What I said was don't put yourself in that position. Again we disagree on this topic. Maybe some agree, I am not One of them. If you can't list "all" the questions YOU CLAIM mature adults should ask before consenting to sex in order to prevent saying no after it is initiated, just say so.. 
Like I said, I have my OWN personal questions I would ask if it came to it. However, I avoid that, I like to know ahead what man I am going to have sex with. I would think every woman would not have the same questions! |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail people sometimes have a script of how things SHOULD go, and they stick to it,, some think a slight protest should occur (the no, no, that doesnt really mean no, no) and some think a verbal validation for their partner is needed (the oh yeah, that really means good grief can this be over now) its best not to mess with such u nstable people , You are not privy to everyone's sexual encounters...Unless you are referencing your personal "script", this is nothing more than supposition on your part... I dont have to be privy to EVERYONE to know about 'some', or 'sometimes' I am referencing what I know from speaking to and listening to others,,,, You listen to others while they're having sex/getting ready to have sex? nope, I listen to others talk about their SEXUAL expectations, experiences, habits,,,, |
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I think, it doesn't matter whether NO means NO or YES. You should be able to look into the eyes of your partner and see their heart. Not go by the words and thoughts blindly.
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Edited by
AndyBgood
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Tue 01/01/13 09:52 PM
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It is funny to me how getting what you deserve and saying no are disambiguate, yet when stupid people get what they deserve for being stupid, that is taken as condoning an errant behavior.
And not all rapes are planned! Again that is a grand assumption. None of you are law enforcement who have to deal with both sides of a crime! Rape victims come in two flavors, perpetual victims and those who get past it and move on. 
Likewise it is one thing for Stella to get her freak on. It is another when a woman is trying to break world records and getting all pissed off when she is called for what she is. And what would some of YOU ladies be calling a woman trying to fucq YOUR man behind your back? <--------Maniacal laughter in the background... So one more time. Looks like duck, quacks like duck. Swims like duck. Smells like duck. And even tastes like duck. Got to be duck! With that said. Rape is a word tossed around as much as any salad. More than Pizza dough! So now what? You get to say no. That is nice. But if you play the tease and get burned for it, what then? So now we are back to SQUARE 1, huh? 
You know you cannot dance to the music the devil plays and refuse to pay him when the show is over! |
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correct leigh no means no and if a man forces sex on a woman who is a pro or dressed like a slut (what ever that means) it is still rape and still prosecutable If Miss Biggest Slut Ever says no - it means NO and if you do YES u can go to jail people sometimes have a script of how things SHOULD go, and they stick to it,, some think a slight protest should occur (the no, no, that doesnt really mean no, no) and some think a verbal validation for their partner is needed (the oh yeah, that really means good grief can this be over now) its best not to mess with such u nstable people , You are not privy to everyone's sexual encounters...Unless you are referencing your personal "script", this is nothing more than supposition on your part... I dont have to be privy to EVERYONE to know about 'some', or 'sometimes' I am referencing what I know from speaking to and listening to others,,,, Unfortunately, that kind of guess work doesn't translate into truth... |
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Yes, we totally disagree, but you said, "There are not many reasons. Ask all the questions before hand like mature adults should."...You're saying if you ask "ALL" the questions before agreeing to have sex, you reduce or eliminate the need to say no or to abort the sex act..So again, what are the questions mature adults should ask before agreeing to have sex with someone?... What I said was don't put yourself in that position. Again we disagree on this topic. Maybe some agree, I am not One of them. If you can't list "all" the questions YOU CLAIM mature adults should ask before consenting to sex in order to prevent saying no after it is initiated, just say so..
Like I said, I have my OWN personal questions I would ask if it came to it. However, I avoid that, I like to know ahead what man I am going to have sex with. I would think every woman would not have the same questions! Well, according to some men here, that comfort zone your are referring to does not exist once a man is aroused and turns into a raging animal...If I'm not mistaken, there are a couple of ladies who actually agree with this scenario too..... There is no need for you to get huffy Toody...you made a very bold statement when your said, "ask ALL the questions first, that's what mature adults do"...Now you're saying the list is personal and unique to each individual....That is what we have been telling you!!...Every situation is different and you never know what is going to happen, what could happen....That's why NO MEANS NO .... |
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