Topic: FACT SHEET: 45 YEARS OF OCCUPATION
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Wed 06/13/12 05:01 PM
On this 45th anniversary of the start of the Six Days War, here is a reminder of what they said.

In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.”

On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma’ariv as follows: “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.”

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Wed 06/13/12 05:02 PM
In the same Israeli newspaper on the same day, General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann, was quoted as saying: “There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting.”

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Wed 06/13/12 05:02 PM
In the spring of 1972, General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel’s General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: “The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.”

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Wed 06/13/12 05:03 PM
In a radio debate Peled also said: “Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel.” He added that “Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.

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Wed 06/13/12 05:04 PM
In the same programme General Chaim Herzog (former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state) said: “There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon - as the memoirs of President Johnson proved - believed in this danger.”

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Wed 06/13/12 05:05 PM
On 3 June 1972 Peled was even more explicit in an article of his own for Le Monde. He wrote: “All those stories about the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an argument expounded once the war was over, have never been considered in our calculations. While we proceeded towards the full mobilisation of our forces, no person in his right mind could believe that all this force was necessary to our ‘defence’ against the Egyptian threat. This force was to crush once and for all the Egyptians at the military level and their Soviet masters at the political level. To pretend that the Egyptian forces concentrated on our borders were capable of threatening Israel’s existence does not only insult the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this kind of situation, but is primarily an insult to the Israeli army.”

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Wed 06/13/12 05:05 PM
It is not surprising that debate in Israel was shut down before it led to some serious soul-searching about the nature of the state and whether it should continue to live by the lie as well as the sword; but it is more than remarkable, I think, that the mainstream Western media continues to prefer the convenience of the Zionist myth to the reality of what happened in 1967 and why.

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Wed 06/13/12 05:06 PM
When reporters and commentators have need today to make reference to the Six Days War, almost all of them still tell it like the Zionists said it was in 1967 rather than how it really was. Obviously there are still limits to how far the mainstream media is prepared to go in challenging the Zionist account of history, but it could also be that lazy journalism is a factor in the equation.

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Wed 06/13/12 05:07 PM
For those journalists, lazy or not, who might still have doubts about who started the Six Days War, here’s a quote from what Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

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Wed 06/13/12 05:17 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Wed 06/13/12 05:18 PM

In short, the offensive Israel launched at 0750 hours (local time) on Monday 5 June was not a pre-emptive strike or an act of self-defence. It was a war of aggression.


Seems like self defense to me.

When armies of 4 neighboring countries amass on your borders and
the head of the Alliance against you closes your shipping lanes and
calls for your destruction....

That is threatening enough. Israel told them to keep the shipping
lanes open and stand down their armies and they refused so Israel
had to act to keep their country working and safe.


You have missed the build up to the 1967 war where Israel was
explicitly threatened by troops from 4 armies amassing on their
borders. But it is all well documented:

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Background and summary of events leading to war
Main article: Origins of the Six-Day War

After the 1956 Suez Crisis, Egypt agreed to the stationing of a United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) in the Sinai to ensure all parties would comply with the 1949 Armistice Agreements.[11][12][13] In the following years there were numerous minor border clashes between Israel and its Arab neighbors, particularly Syria. In early November, 1966, Syria signed a mutual defense agreement with Egypt.[14]

Soon thereafter, in response to Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) guerilla activity,[15][16] including a mine attack that killed three Israeli soldiers,[17] the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) attacked the city of as-Samu in the Jordanian-occupied West Bank, killing 16 and wounding 54.[18] Jordanian units that engaged the Israelis were quickly beaten back.[19] Israel's attack was condemned by the Security Council, which emphasized to Israel that actions of military reprisal cannot be tolerated. King Hussein of Jordan criticized Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser for failing to come to Jordan's aid, and "hiding behind UNEF skirts".[20][21] The Samu raid shattered the fragile trust between Israel and Jordan,[22] leading the Jordanian leadership to believe Israel's strategic goal was to occupy the West Bank. This fear that in the event of a regional war, Israel would invade the West Bank, led to King Husayn's decision to sign a joint defense pact with Egypt.[23]

In May 1967, Israeli officials began to publicly threaten military action against Syria if Syria did not stop Palestinian terrorists from crossing the border into Israel.[24] Nasser received reports from the Soviet Union that an Israeli attack on Syria was imminent. While Soviet reports of Israeli troops massing on the Syrian border were inaccurate, the assessment that Israel was about to launch an attack was well founded. [25] [26] Nasser began massing his troops in the Sinai Peninsula on Israel's border (May 16), expelled the UNEF force from Gaza and Sinai (May 19), and took up UNEF positions at Sharm el-Sheikh, overlooking the Straits of Tiran.[27][28] UN Secretary-General U Thant proposed that the UNEF force be redeployed on the Israeli side of the border, but this was rejected by Israel despite U.S. pressure.[29]

Israel reiterated declarations made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or a justification for war.[30][31] Nasser declared the Straits closed to Israeli shipping on May 22–23. On May 27, he stated "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight."[32]

On May 30, Jordan and Egypt signed a defense pact. The following day, at Jordan's invitation, the Iraqi army began deploying troops and armored units in Jordan.[33] They were later reinforced by an Egyptian contingent.
On June 1, Israel formed a National Unity Government by widening its cabinet, and on June 4 the decision was made to go to war. The next morning, Israel launched Operation Focus, a large-scale surprise air strike that was the opening of the Six-Day War.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

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Wed 06/13/12 05:26 PM
Apparently you didn't want to read what I posted.

And you said you were interested in the truth.spock


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Thu 06/14/12 12:42 PM

Apparently you didn't want to read what I posted.

And you said you were interested in the truth.spock




He is more that likely scared of the Truth.

Truth is often a bitter pill to swallow.

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Thu 06/14/12 03:34 PM


Apparently you didn't want to read what I posted.

And you said you were interested in the truth.spock




He is more that likely scared of the Truth.

Truth is often a bitter pill to swallow.


laugh

For real truth see my post above yours from Wed 06/13/12 05:17 PM.

laugh

If youse ain't toooo skeered. scared

laugh


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Thu 06/14/12 07:01 PM
I think there is some intransigence working here.:smile:

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Fri 06/15/12 01:23 AM
This is Good ...Israel will allow

A country The Size Of Rhode Island is going to Allow ships to dock in Gaza following inspection at ports in Greece and Cyprus.

And This

European countries will be allowed to implement projects to improve the lives of residents of the Strip, such as a power plant, a desalination plant and a wastewater purification plant.


Of Course This is possible only because America and Britain allow it to Happen.















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Fri 06/15/12 09:58 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/15/12 09:59 AM

This is Good ...Israel will allow

A country The Size Of Rhode Island is going to Allow ships to dock in Gaza following inspection at ports in Greece and Cyprus.

And This

European countries will be allowed to implement projects to improve the lives of residents of the Strip, such as a power plant, a desalination plant and a wastewater purification plant.


Of Course This is possible only because America and Britain allow it to Happen.







How nice of them. Give them a button.


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Sat 06/16/12 11:11 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sat 06/16/12 11:16 PM
Hotroddelux said:


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WEBSITE! I didn't even look at it. The Bronze Age Copper Mines are contemporary to the literary evidence.


When someone posts a link to a website for "evidence" or defends it, for whatever reason I would think they would at least look at it.


Again, my post had nothing to do with the website. How many times do I have to explain it? Your comprehension is appalling at times.


Jeanniebean said:
And if you are implying I am motivated by "hatred and prejudice" please explain why you believe that and why you would say such a thing about anyone you don't know?


a). Anti-semitism is a form of prejudice.

b). You participate in all anti-semitic threads


No, I don't. One cannot be anti-Semitic against a non-Semitic European people.

The world 'Semitic' does not apply to people but to languages of the Middle Eastern and East African region such as Arabic, Amharic, Tigrina, and Hebrew.

For someone who claims to be a historian you should know that. The expression "anti-semitic" dates back only about one hundred years and it was an expression of European people's biases against their very own European Jews.

European Jews do love the expression of "anti-Semitic" because the word 'Semitic' is related to the Middle Eastern region, and anything that would hopefully connect the European Ashkenazi Jews to Palestine is highly desired by Euro-Jewry.


Mere spin and you know it.



What would I be "prejudice" against? The Jewish religion? --Not possible since I know nothing about it, and I don't have any concern over what gods people want to worship ---The race of white European Jews? ---Not possible since they are just as white as me. We are both Caucasians, the same race. No prejudice there.


Really?



I appose Zionism mainly because of the oppressive regime that seems to practice racial discrimination. There is something dark and corrupt (even evil) operating and in control of the government of Israel.

They pretend to be frightened and innocent. They are not. They are aggressors.



Hyperbole.

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Sat 06/16/12 11:15 PM

I think there is some intransigence working here.:smile:



I love the euphemism. laugh

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Sun 06/17/12 12:17 AM

This is Good ...Israel will allow

A country The Size Of Rhode Island is going to Allow ships to dock in Gaza following inspection at ports in Greece and Cyprus.

And This

European countries will be allowed to implement projects to improve the lives of residents of the Strip, such as a power plant, a desalination plant and a wastewater purification plant.


Of Course This is possible only because America and Britain allow it to Happen.















you could read Resolution 242!
Might surprise you what Israel is allowed to do,especially since neither the PA,nor HAMAS have implemented any of the Responsibilities they are charged under that Resolution!
Even though they signed the Oslo-Accords,which incorporates 242!

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Sun 06/17/12 09:30 AM
HotRodDeluxe

What you call spin, I call absolute truth. Yours is spin. Mine is truth. Name calling is not a credible argument.


Truth:
The world 'Semitic' does not apply to people but to languages of the Middle Eastern and East African region such as Arabic, Amharic, Tigrina, and Hebrew.

Truth:
For someone who claims to be a historian you should know that. The expression "anti-semitic" dates back only about one hundred years and it was an expression of European people's biases against their very own European Jews.

Truth:
European Jews do love the expression of "anti-Semitic" because the word 'Semitic' is related to the Middle Eastern region, and anything that would hopefully connect the European Ashkenazi Jews to Palestine is highly desired by Euro-Jewry.