In the past one could speak and it be lost in the sands of time. In this day one can not.

What you do and what you say will echo in time for this tool man has built.

The words we place into the City of Knowledge from the Gates man has built will be read by others.

Some may see your words and so follow that Temporal Loop into death...

(still God will gather them up into heaven in each their measure).

They will sit at the feet of Jesus (who is close to God) yet by that following they will not be close to God (for Jesus is between them and God and so makes a shadow).

Jesus can not be between someone and God, for again Jesus is God.

You will not find one place Jesus says he is the way to God, for again Jesus is God. He tells us he is the way to Heaven, and no one comes to the father but by him. But never says he is the path to God.


John 14:6
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Cowboy you are lying

on Jesus's birth certificate would they not place "God" as his Father

and that is why God is not noted as the father on your birth certificate...because he is not your Father ...he is Jesus's Father


that you would so strongly deny your birth father his rights suggest other unaddressed paternal issues

No because that birth cirtificate is a secular object, it is referring to this flesh.

And have no anuadressed paternal issues, I love my dad greatly. He is the greatest man I have ever known.

Jesus is also of the flesh and therefore a secular object just like a birth certificate...so your secular theory that you keep trying to hide behind and use to promote your lies is of course... nuts...

the name of "God" would appear as the birth father on Jesus's birth certificate, just as the name of your Mother's "sperm donor" that you seen to have issues with would be on your birth certificate under the Title of "Father"




if that was true you wouldn't be trying to get rid of your mother's sperm donor as being your Father ...Jesus did the same thing with his mother...he was ashame of her and never called her Mother just as you refuse to called your mother's "sperm donor" Father

this is cult mentality

Jesus was only of the flesh for a time being. He himself is not of the flesh.



Again, incorrect. The birth certificate is a secular object, has nothing to do with God. And I have absolutley no issues with my dad, I love him dearly, he is a great man.



What are you talking about? Sperm donors? Jesus never referring to Marry as mother? We know not if Jesus referred to Marry as mother, every second of Jesus' life was not documented. You're really stretchen your obserd comments lately lol.

perhaps if you try looking in the bible before posting you might know....

but anyway...Jesus was ashame of his Mother and never called her Mother just like you refuse to refer to your Mother's sperm donor as your Father

one of the tactics of a cult is to disassociate it's members from the dominate parent and/or parents

I'm just teaching you facts of the bible....Jesus never called Mary "Mother" ...just like it was never a time in your life that you referred to your Mother's sperm donor as Father

it's funny how you are trying to find ways to defend Jesus as to why he didn't refer to Mary as Mother....but yet you show the same coldness about your Birth Father

Again, we know not if Jesus referred to Marry as "mother", for the scriptures do not have every waking second of Jesus' life. The only things recorded in the scriptures are things relevant in one way or other to acheiving the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ and future prophecies of things to come.

you "google cut and paste" passages from the bible all day long...so the fact that you haven't presented a passage from the bible where Jesus called Mary "Mother" ....proves that he didn't

and that is why you never refer to the one that spawned you as "Father" ...it's a cult thing

Why's it matter if Jesus referred to Marry as mother or not? That has no baring on anyone's salvation.

You do realize not everything we know of Jesus is in the scriptures of the bible right? All the scriptures we posses and or have about Jesus and or his life would not fit into a single book.

Cowboy....if you actually knew anything about Jesus you would know that he intentionly did not call Mary "Mother"...some even asked him about the woman that borned him and he instead pointed to his disciples ....

but anyway... we know that you do not refer to the man that sired you as "Father" ... do that mean that you never called the woman that borne you "Mother"?

to not refer to one's parents as being ones Mother or Father points to abuse or cults ....

The culture at the time of Jesus was a patriarchal society, the oldest son would have been required to take care of his mother once the father died. Joseph was already dead at this time, and Jesus being the only son of Mary was giving her over to John's care. The term woman refers to the prophecy in Genesis where the offspring of the woman would crush the serpent's head (Genesis 3:15), which Jesus done with his crucifixion and resurrection. As Children of God we have become brothers and sisters of Christ, when Christ gave Mary to John he was giving her to us all, for if we are true siblings of Christ then his mother is our mother. Notice that Jesus did not give care of Mary over to his "Brothers." If these were in fact true brothers then Jesus would have been required to hand her over to one of them, by not doing so he was breaking the law. The fact that he did not do this tells us a few things. That those who are referred to as Brothers were actually relatives rather then biological brothers. Lets look at James the brother of the Lord (Gal. 1: 18-19) Paul tells us in Galatians that when he visited Cephas he saw none of the other Apostles except James the brother of the Lord. If we look at the list of Apostles in Matthew 10: 2-4 we see two Apostles named James; one is the son of Zebedee and the other the son of Alphaeus. The Bible is clear that nether of the Apostles named James was a son of Mary or Joseph. The Aramaic or Hebrew Lanuage did not have a word for cousin or step brother so the word brother was used. The early Church fathers taught that Jospeh indeed had a brother named Alphaeus which is also rendered as Clopas. If we look at John 19:25 we see that Mary the mother of Jesus is standing there with her sister Mary the wife of Clopas, this would have been her actual sister in law, the woman married to Joseph's brother. Neither Aramaic or Hebrew had a word for sister in law so the word sister is used. These terms today are used by Catholics and Protestants alike, in Catholic circles the word Brother refers to Monks within a given order and the term sister refers to Nuns of a given order. In Protestant circles the term is used for people within a given congregation, sister Martha or Brother Jim the word is used as a way to distinguish a Christian brother or sister.

sir...

As you have chosen to post by quoting my post you have indeed attempted to limit my right to beleive...

and then forced upon my post you believe that God is other than God is...

As you believe so is it for you... State so in your own post and muddy not mine.

I muddied no post. I replied to some words, I knew not if they were your words or joe bob's down the road. I responded to the comment, not the person nor did I alter anything of what the person said.

This is a community forum for those of Mingle2, if your post was at a specific person in which you only wished for that person to respond, you would have placed their name prior to your message. This was not done, so it was posted to the general community of Mingle2 which I am part of.

And on top of that, you may not have quoted my post. But you posted after my post and in your post you specifically said a "You". Since you did not clearly show whom you were specifically directing your comment at, it could only be seen as the poster before your post.

So sorry for the missunderstanding.

That is a mistatement... It matters not if you were answere 'joe bob' you quoted a post and responded as though what was in the post was incorrect. (a direct assualt).

You are indeed smooth with the tongue.

If you wished to post your own version of beliefe why then quote another and make it as though it be small.

My post was my belief... I have stopped attempting to bandy the Word with you as you read it differenty than do I(and so I quoted you not).

Post your belief (but use not mine as though it be a bit of dirt to walk upon.

All the quoting of a post means is showing what the post is in response to. Doesn't mean the quoted post agrees or disagrees with what comes forth in the post of the quoting.

It shows what it's in response to and helps keep the discussion organized and clean, rather then looking like a bunch of random comments.