No will in the flesh, yes.

God condemned sin in the flesh. You live by the flesh, you die by the flesh.

Romans 8:3

3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

so everyones "Will" is in the flesh and of the body

No, not everyone's will is in the flesh.

what matter of human will is not in the body

I can't account for everybody. But my will is with the father.

so you no longer have will in your body?

Sometimes I do get weak and am obedient to the will of the flesh, yes. But for the general note, no my will is entirely with the father who art in heaven.

It's not about good or bad. It's about whether or not a creator is a threat to his creation.

You're still in denial over that fact that this created has clearly done very hateful things. He curses a serpent to crawl on his belly and eat dust for the rest of his days. That's a hateful thing to do someone whether they deserve it or not. Moreover, the question of whether or not the punishment fit the crime is clearly open to controversy. Even humans have ethical standards against "cruel and unusual punishments".

And then there the question of rehabilitation. Did God give up on that. Is this God powerless to rehabilitate his faulty creations?

Shouldn't he have sent the serpent to a rehab center for medical and psychiatric treatment?

Only a loser God who is totally powerless to deal with these kinds of problem would cruse someone to crawl on their belly and eat dust. What exactly would a creator hope to achieve by doing that?

Even humans of mediocre intelligence know that kicking a dog is not a good means of training it.

So right off the bat, at square one we are being asked to have faith that our creator has absolutely no power or wisdom to solve problems in a positive manner. All he knows how to do is kick his dog.



I mean, these are quite serious questions if people are going to suggest to me that these ancient myths should be taken "seriously".

I see no reason to place my faith in a God who solves his problems using methods equivalent to kicking his dog.

And then he turns to Eve and curses her with greatly multiplied sorrow in conception and childbirth.

Just kicking his pets yet again.

A dog-kicking God basically. That's his divine example of how to solve problems.

And you actually claim to see "good" in that?

Where?

funchees, afraid to answer my question?



Free will isn't "free", it is earned by one's desire to think for themselves.



Let's see if you have enough free will to answer my question. I bet you don't... What did God suposedly take out of Adam?

if you have no will...then you're little more than a robot

Consequences to actions Abra. If the serpent would not have done what he did, he would never had been cursed to crawl on his belly.

A servant to be more exact.

trying to wait until you stop flaming

a sevant has Will...a robot has none...you're a robot

If you have asked Jesus the Almighty Christ, to come into your life and you have accepted him as your LORD and SAVIOR. Then did he not come into your life?

If so, then how could you still be weak?

Is the POWER of Jesus that weak?

Is your obedience to him as your LORD flawed?

Do you sometimes decide to refuse to obey even after you have accepted him as your LORD?

You better go talk to MorningSong Cowboy. If you don't have the strength to fight the temptations of Satan, then how can you claim to have Jesus in your heart?

Jesus casts out demons. He doesn't co-reside with them.

If you have this Jesus in your heart there can be no room for Satan and sins of the flesh.

That flies in the face of the POWER that Jesus is supposed to have.

You better go talk to MorningSong about this Cowboy.

If it's not about good or bad, then why give "bad" and "hateful" examples.


You say that I'm in denial because you are... You know I'm right and some people need to be saved from themselves.


You also know I'm right about the falsehoods you spread about the Bible. You have yet to defend and support the notion of "eternal punishment in hell".



So, according to you, since I see the good morals taught by the Bible, then I must be highly moral...

You could justify kicking your dog with that feeble excuse.

Sorry, Cowboy, but "consequences to actions" does not excuse a God who solves his problems using utterly futile methods of punishments that could never possibly result in any positive outcome.

You can't excuse a demonic hateful God by merely saying, "consequences to actions".

That's no excuse for evil negative and violent behavior that could never possibly lead to anything positive or even remotely have a positive outcome.

You could beat your child to death and claim, 'Hey, it was just consequences to their actions!"

Bull Chit!

No, it would just be parental abuse plain and simple.

No thank you, she is no my saviour. I'm sure she has her weak times in life as well.



Has nothing to do with Jesus being weak or not. I'm still the one that decides actions and takes them. Unfortunately I don't listen to Jesus AALL the time. It's rare, but I'm man enough to say it happens.

You bring up penises and I'm the one flaming? LOL


Do you know what God supossedly took out of Adam?
A simple yes or no answer will do, can you handle that?