Topic: Will Israel Hit Iran?
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Fri 11/11/11 07:35 AM

Whether or not it would actually happen is unknown but the truth is that the US and Israel think there is a serious chance of Iran using a nuke on Israel ... or even smuggling one into New York harbor in a ship. As long as Iran acts crazy, which they do, there is a serious chance that Israel will take out Iran's facilities with either conventional weapons or nukes. They did this to Iraq to rid Saddam of his nuclear power plant but Iran has buried it's facilities deeply making destruction much more difficult.

During Iran's war with Iraq, Iran would send thousands of ground troops into intense gun and artillery fire in "human waves" with little regard to human loss of life. The thinking is that, with a population of 77 million, the loss of a significant portion still leaves them with plenty of population left and leadership of the Arab/Islamic world for the destruction of Israel.



In any war, where there is a feeling of hopelessness and sacrifice, people are willing to die fighting rather than be enslaved or slaughtered without fighting back.

When a country is up against a super power who hires assassins and mercs to put on hoods and slaughter people and commit genocide, then blame it on someone else, the term "all is fair in love and war" comes to the surface.

There are atrocities on both sides, always. I don't defend any kind of war. I don't defend aggression or invasion as "defensive" tactics.

In my home, if a person invades with intent to do me harm, I am justified to defend myself. I can shoot them. But I cannot legally or morally go find out where they live and invade their home and shoot them and their family.

Common sense.

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Fri 11/11/11 07:36 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 11/11/11 07:37 AM



BBC’s killer documentary called “The Power of Nightmares“. Top CIA officials openly admit, Al-qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundreds of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Government’s story of Al-qaeda, a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after. This video documentary is off the hook…



http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html



It is comforting to listen to informed Americans such as yourself. flowerforyou

It is frightening to listen to the brainwashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt-FyuuWlWQ


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Fri 11/11/11 07:56 AM




BBC’s killer documentary called “The Power of Nightmares“. Top CIA officials openly admit, Al-qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundreds of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Government’s story of Al-qaeda, a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after. This video documentary is off the hook…



http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html



It is comforting to listen to informed Americans such as yourself. flowerforyou

It is frightening to listen to the brainwashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt-FyuuWlWQ




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Fri 11/11/11 07:58 AM



Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh

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Fri 11/11/11 08:02 AM



ANYONE who uses the buzz word Al-qaeda is to be regarded as someone who either believes or is simply spreading lies and propaganda. You are both.



What you say goes, eh?

And yet, earlier in the thread when someone was telling you that you believed propaganda, you whined about slander. Interesting how you're ok with saying it to someone else, but not when someone says it to you.

There's no use arguing with you about anything.



All information and news is slanted. Some is outright lies and propaganda. That is why you have to use your common sense to ascertain what is true and what is not.

Israel is not innocent, and neither is Pakistan or Iran. There are people infiltrating every country on earth who are motivated by greed and power and are ruthless. There are desperate people everywhere too, who, when threatened, will die for a cause rather than be slaughtered by a bully.

It is interesting how I could criticize Iran or Pakistan or Iraq with venom and be called a patriot but if I criticize Israel I am called racist or anti-Semitic or even a traitor.

I am a citizen of America. I am and advocate of FREEDOM. I am apposed to violence and aggression and cruelty no matter who is responsible for it. That includes Pakistan and Iran.

But it is only when I point out the crimes of Israel that I am attacked. I detest the way women are treated by Islamic fundamentalist and extremist.

But whatever is wrong in the world, mass genocide and bombing is an extreme solution, and no better than Hitler's solution.






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Fri 11/11/11 08:02 AM




Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Sign of Defeat......The Put Down...Hasbara...No Real comeback..Sad

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Fri 11/11/11 08:21 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 11/11/11 08:23 AM




Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Then is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (That is what the ADL implies and promotes.)

FYI: anti-Zionists is not anti-Semitic or anti-Jew.

Please don't get the impression that I have anything against people who have Jewish mothers. That makes no sense.







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Fri 11/11/11 08:24 AM
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Fri 11/11/11 08:26 AM





Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Then is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (That is what the ADL implies and promotes.)

FYI: anti-Zionists is not anti-Semitic or anti-Jew.

Please don't get the impression that I have anything against people who have Jewish mothers. That makes no sense.







If you mention World-Jewry and Zionists in the same sentence,and liken them to each other,what do you think?

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Fri 11/11/11 08:27 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 11/11/11 08:29 AM
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Knee Jerked

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Fri 11/11/11 08:27 AM





Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Then is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (That is what the ADL implies and promotes.)

FYI: anti-Zionists is not anti-Semitic or anti-Jew.

Please don't get the impression that I have anything against people who have Jewish mothers. That makes no sense.




Are you still confused about who is Jewish and who is not? If you'd like to hate "zionists" by all means, go for it.

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Fri 11/11/11 08:29 AM






Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Then is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (That is what the ADL implies and promotes.)

FYI: anti-Zionists is not anti-Semitic or anti-Jew.

Please don't get the impression that I have anything against people who have Jewish mothers. That makes no sense.




Are you still confused about who is Jewish and who is not? If you'd like to hate "zionists" by all means, go for it.


It makes no difference to me who claims to be Jewish or not.

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Fri 11/11/11 08:31 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 11/11/11 08:32 AM







Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Then is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (That is what the ADL implies and promotes.)

FYI: anti-Zionists is not anti-Semitic or anti-Jew.

Please don't get the impression that I have anything against people who have Jewish mothers. That makes no sense.




Are you still confused about who is Jewish and who is not? If you'd like to hate "zionists" by all means, go for it.


It makes no difference to me who claims to be Jewish or not.



The Hasbara Reinforcements have arrived laugh laugh laugh

Don't let the Hasbarians Get to you JBflowerforyou

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Fri 11/11/11 08:31 AM
You were saying earlier in the thread that these "zionists" that you hate aren't Jewish. Now you say it makes no difference if they are?

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Fri 11/11/11 08:32 AM








Common sense.


I think common sense has gone out the window on this thread. laugh


Then is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (That is what the ADL implies and promotes.)

FYI: anti-Zionists is not anti-Semitic or anti-Jew.

Please don't get the impression that I have anything against people who have Jewish mothers. That makes no sense.




Are you still confused about who is Jewish and who is not? If you'd like to hate "zionists" by all means, go for it.


It makes no difference to me who claims to be Jewish or not.



The Hasbara Reinforcements have arrived laugh laugh laugh
guess your Knee must be sore by now!
Really need to update your Vocab!
It's getting old and stale!rofl

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Fri 11/11/11 08:34 AM
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So will you answer my questions? I really want to know.

Is the only reason you appose my opposition to Zionist Israel political policies is because you consider yourself Jewish because you have a Jewish mother?

So do you believe that anti-Zionism means anti-Jew? (

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Fri 11/11/11 08:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 11/11/11 08:40 AM

You were saying earlier in the thread that these "zionists" that you hate aren't Jewish. Now you say it makes no difference if they are?



Right. (But I appose their politics and crimes, I don't hate them.) It makes no difference to me what they are,or what they call themselves. (I have no control of that.)

They claim to be Jewish for some reason. I don't consider them to be Jewish if they are atheists. They claim to be Jewish so they can enlist the support of Zionist Christians who believe that Jews need to return home to Israel so Jesus can return according to prophecy.

It's all Biblical nonsense.








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Fri 11/11/11 08:42 AM


You were saying earlier in the thread that these "zionists" that you hate aren't Jewish. Now you say it makes no difference if they are?



Right. It makes no difference to me what they are,or what they call themselves. (I have no control of that.)

They claim to be Jewish for some reason. I don't consider them to be Jewish if they are atheists. They claim to be Jewish so they can enlist the support of Zionist Christians who believe that Jews need to return home to Israel so Jesus can return according to prophecy.

It's all Biblical nonsense.








You can't have it both ways!
Really doesn't matter what your perception of Jewishness is!
There are Jews who are Zionists,and there are Zionists who are Jews!
Now which one is which?rofl

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Fri 11/11/11 08:46 AM
Don't laugh! At the Circus they charge a lot of money for this
entertainment!!

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Fri 11/11/11 08:48 AM

Don't laugh! At the Circus they charge a lot of money for this
entertainment!!

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got that right!
Comedy Central #2!bigsmile